Subject: The Redguards are sorta Arabic, if I recall? (nm)
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Posted on: 2014-12-20 16:22:00 UTC
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Skyrim goodfic/general chat. Other fandoms welcome! by
on 2014-12-20 04:08:00 UTC
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I saw a cry for fandom discussions, and since this is what's been distracting me from the filk game this week (well, also being up to my elbows in cookies), I figure I should share. {= )
Anyone who watches the wiki's activity page may have seen this already, since I added it to my goodfic recs, but now that I've finished reading it, please allow me to properly plug "Before the Storm" by bluRaaven. It is rated M for good reasons, and to borrow the author's own words, if you have any trouble with graphic violence, homosexuality, sex in general, coarse language, or other-worldly religion, you may wish to refrain from reading this fanfic. (Also contains BIG SPOILERS for the Companions' quest line and the main quest line, in case anyone wants to play through those and hasn't yet.)
With that out of the way, I love this fic. It's not very often I can be enticed to read a fanfic as long as this one these days, but in addition to having my curiosity piqued by one of the author's tie-in stories, I was won over straight away by the descriptions, sense of humor, insightful characterization, and world-building. The main character, Wulfryk, is a very good, well-balanced OC, even as the inherently overpowered Dragonborn, since the author has taken pains to give his powers drawbacks and make sure his flaws and mistakes have consequences. Actually, this is one of those stories where no one can have nice things, at least not for very long, which makes the good moments all the more enjoyable. There's adventure, drama, comedy, good times, bad times, and worse times, and overall it's just plain fun to read.
The only drawback is that, due to the author not being a native English-speaker, there are a few minor but persistent punctuation and grammar errors, and he sometimes uses the wrong word (e.g. weary instead of wary), but even those distractions weren't enough to stop me from enjoying the story. That's how good it is.
This caught me at just the right moment, I suppose. I went looking for fanfic about the Companions, since I've become very fond of Farkas through playing the game and I was curious to find out what other people's thoughts and feelings were. The Companions feature heavily, and as far as I'm concerned bluRaaven has them just right. Even though I was familiar with a lot of the events from playing through them, the author makes them even more intense by fleshing out the characters' thoughts and feelings and putting them in context with a bigger story. It's exactly what fanfiction is supposed to be, in my opinion: taking what we love about the canon and exploring it in more detail than was possible in the source material. It's just awesome.
So... has anyone else read this? (Are you now?) Any thoughts on the Companions or Skyrim in general? Anything else fandom-related you wanna talk about?
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Other fandoms? by
on 2014-12-22 02:25:00 UTC
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Does this mean that I can discuss other things that I'm interested in? Because I don't have Skyrim... stupid incompatible OS...
Ahem, anyway. I have a couple fandoms I feel I should discuss.
-Monster Musume/Daily Life with Monster GIrl-
My all-time favorite manga, it's an ecchi harem romantic comedy. I'd like to know if there's any really good fanfiction for it... And I also want to know if anyone else here is familiar with it.
It's amazing, but almost every translated volume has opened at #1 on the New York Times bestseller list, and it's never too far from the top 10. It's unbelievable how a short, monthly series about cute monster girls is as popular, if not moreso than things like Bleach and Attack on Titan.
By the way, you can read it here (NSFW): http://mangapark.com/manga/monster-musume-no-iru-nichijou
-8-Bit Theater-
My favorite webcomic. I love the black humor that permeates it, and I feel like some elements would be useful maybe for the PPC. Unlike MonMusu, 8BT has almost NO fanfic, and the few that exist are Fighter/Black Mage friendship fics.
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Yep, you're fine. {= ) by
on 2014-12-22 15:39:00 UTC
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Unfortunately, it's been a long time since I read 8BT. I remember it fondly, though, and some of the jokes still come up in normal conversation with my friends.
"I like swords!"
"Welcome to Corneria!"
"I like swords!"
"Welcome to Corneria!"
"I like swords!"
"Welcome to Corneria!"
^_^
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8BT favorite moments by
on 2014-12-22 16:01:00 UTC
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From Black Mage:
"That's so stupid I can't even see straight. Seriously, this hurts."
"Such horrible magnificence. I yearn to look away, yet I dare not do so!"
"This tells me less than nothing. Do you understand? You've made me forget things I didn't even KNOW." (totally jacking this one if I start writing)
"Even though I am the incarnation of all mortal evil, I just don't have the heart."
From Red Mage (my favorite character):
"Simple: It makes too little sense to fail."
"I know that, and you know that, but I don't know that."
(by Thief, of RM) "You do know he's Red Mage, right? We'll be lucky if he doesn't destroy the island and claim success because we're no longer on it."
Y'know what? Let me just drop this here: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/8-Bit_Theater
Raise a toast to the greatest webcomic. It ended four years ago. -
In the modding corner and mostly stay in the modding corner. by
on 2014-12-21 23:10:00 UTC
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If I could, of course, I would also be productive there.
Amusingly enough the projects I'd dedicate my time to would be Skywind and Skyblivion, so not entirely related to the topic.
As for messing with Skyrim - it's mostly small tweaks to the game to enhance performance (and returning to Argonians the poison immunity which is rightfully theirs)...
...and, as with Oblivion, I am constantly on the lookout for whatever plausible ways I can write up to ensure that a certain family doesn't get slaughtered on my watch.
As for the Companions and other factions, I find them all wanting to a certain degree.
The Companions less than others, even though I do my best to avoid stand-up fights.
The College, well, the quest-line is too short and you're bumped up from new meat to Archmage all too quickly.
Thieves' Guild I haven't quite finished, but it seems to be slightly more combat and slightly less heists now, which is a tad disappointing.
And of course the Dark Brotherhood is a disgrace. Sithis, are they a disgrace. They've always been my favourite faction, though, so loving them is mandatory. -
Fandom spin-off thread: Legend of Korra by
on 2014-12-20 22:28:00 UTC
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You asked for other fandom discussions? I'm willing to provide.
For those of you that are unaware, LoK is the sequel animated series to Avatar: The Last Airbender. Just two days ago, its grand finale aired on Nick.com. The Airbenderverse, for all intents and purposes, has come to an end in regards to new canon. I've been a fan of the universe since roughly the middle of the second original season. The writing is good, the characters are great, and the world-building blew me away. I'm feeling a bit downcast about seeing it come to an end.
Canonically, anyway. The fandom will continue. Oh my yes. I will not spoil it in this post, but the last scene of that final episode... let's just say that some parts of the Internet are all abuzz with its implications. News hubs like Forbes and Huff Post have even weighed in (so be careful if you search, 'cause there be spoilers out there).
I will admit that I haven't watched the entire series due to things like time and forgetfulness, but I've tried to keep up as best I could. Some parts felt rough to me early on in its run and it's definitely no Last Airbender. That being said, I still really enjoyed most of what I saw. I feel like I need to run through the whole thing one more time before I can make a final judgement, both on the series as a whole and the last episode. Not that I'm complaining.
Has anyone else been following LoK? If so, what are your thoughts on how the series went? The characters? The final episode and that last scene? Will you miss the Airbenderverse, or is it never something you got into?
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Ooh, yes. by
on 2014-12-21 17:00:00 UTC
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Phobos and I watched the last episodes yesterday. We definitely picked up on the possible implications of that last scene. I don't have an opinion about it one way or the other—or rather, I'm all for it if they're serious, but if they're just doing it as a tease, then meh.
Anyway, I am sad the show has come to an end. I agree that the first couple of seasons were a bit rough, but I think they really learned from their mistakes in the third and fourth, and I caught some lines that even sounded like direct acknowledgement of the problems. It's nice to see that kind of dedication to making a good show.
The short length of the episodes means that things sometimes resolve a little too quickly for my liking, but on the other hand, oftentimes they still left me on the edge of my seat and bewildered that there was no more for the week, because I was so engrossed. (Phobos will attest that my reactions to the end credits suddenly rolling were pretty funny.)
I need to watch TLA again. It's been too long, and I've forgotten a lot of the nuances that made it so great. My memory is weird... I remember the people and the broad strokes of the story, but details escape me, sometimes even important ones. On the other hand, I remember Iroh's favorite tea (jasmine), because Iroh is awesome. I miss that guy.
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Iroh is indeed awesome. by
on 2014-12-22 21:52:00 UTC
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I also need to go through Airbender again. I barely remember much of anything besides the big story notes from the third season. Which is a shame, because I could have sworn there were some awesome character bits in there. There likely were; it was Airbender, for goodness sake.
Part of me does wish that the episodes were longer, if only because the arc of a 13-episode season can sometimes feel rushed (season 1 felt that way to me). But then the rational part of me goes "An hour-long cartoon? No channel will approve that." Unfortunate.
As for the last scene, I'm leaning more towards the creators being serious about their implications. Admittedly, my reasoning is based on observations and circumstantial evidence mixed with a bit of hopeful thinking. Like I mentioned in the previous post, I feel like I need to go through the entire series before making a final decision. -
UPDATE: Or that could happen. by
on 2014-12-24 01:36:00 UTC
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Series creators Bryan Konietzko and Michael Dante DiMartino weighed in on that last scene yesterday. They confirmed that the implication was intended.
THE FOLLOWING LINKS CONTAIN SPOILERS FOR THE LEGEND OF KORRA FINALE. SUPER-SPOILERS, EVEN. DON'T EVEN HOVER OVER THE LINKS IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE SPOILED.
DiMartino
Konietzko
Koneitzko's is probably my favorite response. It contains an explanation, some rebuttals against common criticisms, and a few nice notes on creating characters and character arcs. "You give these characters life and then they tell you what they want to do." is a good example. -
Woah. (Spoilers inside) by
on 2014-12-24 02:13:00 UTC
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Ugh, I know I said I wanted no spoilers, but my insatiable curiosity got the better of me.
And woah.
It's about damn time we get to see some bisexual characters not depicted in a negative light! I've seen gay and lesbian couples before, but rarely (if ever) have I seen bi characters in popular media.
Netflix, why you no put Korra up faster? D: -
Iroh was awesome. by
on 2014-12-22 03:16:00 UTC
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The Tale of Iroh short in Tales of Ba Sing Se never fails to make me cry.
I recently finished marathoning TLA because it had been so long since I'd seen it (and now that I'm older, there was a lot of stuff I noticed that I can't believe managed to fly under the radar). Needless to say, it was just as good as I remembered. It's a shame you can't find quality like that very often.
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I knoooow. by
on 2014-12-22 15:47:00 UTC
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That episode is a total tear-jerker. ... Gah, it's sad just thinking about it. ;;
Hmm, I wonder... Hah, I knew Adagio would deliver. Check out the <a href="http://www.adagio.com/signatureblend/fandoms.html">Fandom Blends section and search by tag for "Iroh." ^_^ I'm a little baffled by how many people have used rooibos (red tea because Fire Nation, I guess?), but there's bound to be something good in the bunch.
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Not gonna lie, I cried like a baby. by
on 2014-12-20 23:13:00 UTC
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I've been a fan of the Avatarverse since the beginning of TLA, and I sobbed uncontrollably at the end of TLA as well. Now that LoK is over, too... *sigh* It's like... a very bittersweet feeling, you know?
I went into LoK with low expectations; I didn't think anything could ever replace TLA. How could I ever like the new generation of Team Avatar? Korra especially grated on my nerves quite a lot in season one. But even she came to grow on me.
Unfortunately, I fell out of watching mid-season 2 due to my dad changing the record settings on our DVR and all the episodes I had yet to catch up on (I had been snowed under with homework and was planning on marathoning the episodes later at some point). I heard the end was phenomenal, though, and am eagerly awaiting the release of LoK on Netflix so I can see it.
And for the record, Bolin is the best. Oh god please don't tell me if he makes it though. -
My expectations for Korra were mixed. by
on 2014-12-22 21:31:00 UTC
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Like you, I didn't think it would replace Airbender. I felt quite ho-hum about the first few episodes until I started thinking off it more as a stand-alone spinoff than a direct sequel. Like the Next Generation to the original Star Trek series. Once you take Korra out of its predecessor's shadow I feel it works much better.
I will say that I did like Korra right away. I liked the contrast between her and the more spiritual Aang. Her more questionable actions I attributed to a mix of her hotheadedness, ego, and lack of experience with the world at large. Time and experience obviously helped soften that. My biggest gripe with the first season was actually with Amon. It felt like things were too easy for him at times. He never really suffered a major setback until the very end. Just as having a poorly-executed invincible hero can be boring, so can an invincible villain.
Bolin's pretty rad. And don't worry, no spoilers from me. -
Was I the only one sick of... by
on 2014-12-23 19:27:00 UTC
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...the love bisected triangle between Bolin, Korra, Mako, and Asami? It felt to me like the writers were doing drama for drama's sake.
(SPOILERS BELOW)
As for Amon, I remember my IRL friend being severely disappointed when it was revealed he was a Waterbender. I thought it was actually a nice twist, and it made sense in contest, since it was pretty obvious from the lack of flashy lights that Amon wasn't Energybending.
Still, he really was overpowered. I mean, come on, why is it that he's the only Waterbender who can Bloodbend without the aid of the full moon? I know they tried to explain it in the show, but it felt like the writers were kind of scrambling for an excuse. -
I'm not a fan of love triangles. (SOME SPOILERS) by
on 2014-12-24 01:22:00 UTC
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Mostly because they always seem to be written very poorly, regardless of medium or genre. It didn't help in this particular case that Mako always felt a bit bland to me. I never saw the appeal in him in the first season and so was never invested in the triangle.
I did like the waterbender angle they played with Amon, especially since almost all of the villains in Airbender were firebenders. I just wish he had suffered a few more setbacks along the way. Even Azula had some defeats to go with her losses (prior to her meltdown in season 3). -
Uh, just to clarify- by
on 2014-12-20 23:14:00 UTC
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I cried when I heard it was over, not because of what happened since I haven't seen it.
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On Skyrim. by
on 2014-12-20 22:06:00 UTC
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Skyrim (and, to an extent, much of the Elder Scrolls series as well) is one of those games I should have liked in theory. It's got a lot of good lore surrounding it and the world is incredibly well developed. I just felt that the main plot of the game was less interesting than the world in which is was set. Plus, I will admit that the gameplay never really hooked me. First-person melee combat is not something that I have ever really gotten a handle on, which is one of the reasons why I prefer Bethesda's take on Fallout over this. (The other main reason being that I grew up with the original Fallout whereas didn't find Elder Scrolls until Oblivion.
The experience wasn't all bad. The first time I fought a dragon was flipping' rad. Well, second time -- fighting the dragon with my initial archery-focused character was a bit meh due to how little damage I was doing. The crafting system was pretty neat, too. I think I spent more time with that than actually in combat.
I will conclude by saying that Skyrim had some of my all time favoritevideo game trailers. "But there is one they fear..." So cool.
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Hm, yeah. by
on 2014-12-21 17:21:00 UTC
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I don't mind the hack-and-slash, because I like the opportunity to absolutely demolish anything that gets in my face, which I can't (and don't really want to) do in real life. *g*
That said, I do find the problem-solving options a bit limited in that respect. I like that they do provide diplomatic solutions sometimes, but I could use a lot more of that and a lot less "this person is in your way or doing something you don't like, so yeah, just kill 'em." Especially when doing so ends up getting you involved with one group or another who may or may not be any better. >.>
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Dangit, not another one! by
on 2014-12-20 17:04:00 UTC
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While I have been told on multiple occasions how good the Elder Scrolls is, and it looks absolutely fascinating, I've never been able to play them because 1) my computer can't support the older games (pathetic, right?) and 2) Skyrim is rated M. So that means a no-go for my mom.
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There's a reason why it's my most played game on Steam by
on 2014-12-20 15:31:00 UTC
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(530 hours and counting if anyone's wondering)
I've read a couple of fanfics about Skyrim, but not a lot and not anything exceptional (although I may read "Before the Storm" now when I have time).
I've got five main characters that I have sufficiently leveled up (i.e. to over level 30), each of which I'm trying something different with. And about another half a dozen characters that I've experimented with (and not liked). so far I've got a Hunter/Thief Wood Elf level 54, an Assassin/Thief Imperial level 43, a Warrior/Werewolf Breton level 40, a Mage/Assassin in Heavy Armour Dark Elf level 38 and a Vampire/Mage High Elf level 32. Needless to say they all hate a particular elven extremist group, and bar the Wood Elf haven't killed the leader of the dudes atop the mountain (keeping it nicely spoiler free).
Also, I'm looking for a good few mods that add dungeons/quest stuff that are preferably on Steam (and not on Nexus), I've got a few (like Wyrmstooth) but am always looking for more.
Storme Hawk
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Skyrim, Skyrim... that's the last 'Elder Scrolls' game, yes? by
on 2014-12-20 08:55:00 UTC
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About which, as you can tell, I know nothing apart from It's Fantasy, and they tried to sue Notch for using the word 'Scrolls'.
So... what sort of world is it? I understand it's quite a detailed one, but it's also post-Tolkien, post-D&D High Fantasy. So what I'm asking is, how extensively does it draw on other fantasy? Are we talking 'a habbit finds Two Rings and fights a balgrog', or is it actually original?
(Well, you said 'other fandoms welcome' - here's as many other fandoms as you can think of. I'm curious!)
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Yep. by
on 2014-12-20 15:59:00 UTC
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I'd say it's pretty original. Bethesda likes to throw in little references to other stuff—for instance, it's possible to discover an item called the Notched Pickaxe, and there's a character named Temba Wide-Arms, which might give you a chuckle if you're familiar with a certain episode of Star Trek: TNG. But, that aside, it's a very rich world with its own mythology, and each race has their own spin on it, which is fun.
The races are fairly unique, too. The three major divisions are Men (humans), Mer (elves), and the Beast-peoples. For humans, you've got the Imperials (Roman-inspired), the Nords (Viking-inspired), the Bretons (English-inspired), and the Redguards (I don't know much about these guys). The elves are fun. You've got your Bosmer (Wood Elves), Dunmer (Dark Elves), and Altmer (High Elves—these guys are real jerks), but then you've also got the Orsimer (Orcs), the Dwemer (the lost race of Dwarves), and the Falmer (deep-dwelling, blind, not nice). The Beast-peoples are the Khajiit (cat-people) and Argonians (lizard-people).
But, returning to the game itself, the basic storyline is this: you are the Dragonborn, a legendary figure the likes of which hasn't been seen in hundreds of years, much like dragons themselves. Also, the dragons are returning to Skyrim. This is not a coincidence. Whether you've appeared because of them, they've appeared because of you, or both, isn't exactly clear. What IS clear is that they're bad news, and you're the only one with a hope of dealing with the problem.
Meanwhile, there's a civil war going on with factions supporting the Imperials on one side and the Stormcloaks on the other. The Empire has recently signed a treaty with the Altmer that outlaws worship of Talos, a figure particularly revered in Skyrim because he was a Nord who ascended to godhood through his great deeds, and many people aren't particularly thrilled with being told who they can and can't worship. It's pretty clear that the Altmer are bad news, but on the other hand, with the threat of dragons looming, now is not a great time for Skyrim to be divided against itself. Nobody's really in the right. You can choose to take a side, but you don't have to.
In fact, you can avoid the main storyline forever if you want to, too. One of the great things about the game is that you're not really forced into anything once you escape the first scenario.
I can't think of any other fantasy it draws on in particular. Skyrim kinda reminds me of Middle-earth, but I think that's only because there's a sense of grandeur and rugged beauty about them both. (And Skyrim really is gorgeous. At night, when the Northern Lights are out... stunning. [It might be useful to know that I'm very picky about games: they have to be nice to look at and listen to for long periods of time, or I just can't be bothered.]) The Nords and the Rohirrim are drawn from the same stock, certainly, but they're definitely distinct. The game also shares certain aspects with other RPGs—get into encounters, fight, loot treasure wherever you can get away with it, gain XP, gain levels and special abilities—but again, it has its own distinct flavor that makes it more than a D&D knockoff. And anyway, I like D&D.
I really enjoy the amount of detail put into it, though. Throughout the world, there are books you can pick up and read that give you information about the history of Tamriel; and some are just amusing little yarns. I spend a lot of time reading in this game. ^_^; And then, the people each have their own little stories. I talk to just about everybody, just to see who they are. You can't engage in dialogue with everyone, but apart from the guards, they almost all have something unique to say. It's the little details like this that drew me in. The main story is interesting, but I like a world I can really sink my teeth into, and this fits the bill. It's absolutely huge. I've explored a fair bit of it by now, and there's still a lot more I haven't seen.
... That's a lot of words, and I'm not sure how many of them actually address your question. Let me know!
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The Redguards are sorta Arabic, if I recall? (nm) by
on 2014-12-20 16:22:00 UTC
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The games are rubbish but the setting is interesting. by
on 2014-12-20 15:57:00 UTC
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I'll let Nesh or others explain more of they want but while they do some of the typical high fantasy ish stuff the lore goes in a lot of original directions. Sure there's elves everywhere, but even the Altmer are pretty distinct from the archetypical brooding high elf, and some are cannibals. The moon, stars and sun? Gaping holes in reality we see as spheres because we can't process what we're seeing. There's a godlike ability known as CHIM which is basically being able to use console commands in real life (the setting seems to implicitly acknowledge that the universe really is a game and things like player characters exist), the planes of Oblivion are basically other planets connected to the main setting by portals and stuff, in one province of the Empire they use gigantic insects as a means of travel and lots of structures are built out of said gigantic insects or mushrooms, one of the races is connected to a psychic hivemind of sapient trees that can mindjack them all at once if need be (such as to trounce an invasion from Oblivion so badly the baddies closed all the portals to that area because they were being counter invaded), there's magic spaceships, moon bases and swords sharp enough to cut atoms and cause nuclear explosions in some of the books, etc. While the games are often so so the setting itself is pretty neat and not as generic as, say, Oblivion (the game) makes it look.
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Skyrim stuff! by
on 2014-12-20 08:17:00 UTC
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I tend to go on Skyrim kicks from time to time depending on if I want to play an RPGS or not. I try to make a character stick, but it always seems to go towards "heavily armored warrior with hints of magic and backstabbing". Maybe I need to limit myself more.
The Companions line was great. I kinda spoiled it for myself by reading the Skyrim page on TVTropes, but it was cool to see how certain characters fleshed out in it. My one gripe with Skyrim's story involves a certain sect of dragon killers you resurrect, and how they order you around so much despite claiming to serve you. Mods help, but it just isn't the same. Anyway, I love the game, can't wait for the next one, and I HIGHLY recommend it to anyone that hasn't played yet. The PC version with all DLC is pretty cheap on Steam right now! -
I did nearly the same thing. by
on 2014-12-21 17:11:00 UTC
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Accidentally spoiled the Companions storyline for myself on the Elder Scrolls wiki, that is. I played it anyway, knowing what I was getting into, and enjoyed myself immensely.
Having watched Phobos complete the main storyline, I agree about that sect of dragon-killers. I'm not a fan—another reason I'm not in a hurry to follow the main quest line. I just don't wanna deal with their BS. And I like the fellow on the mountaintop.
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I haven't finished the game... by
on 2014-12-20 05:04:00 UTC
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...but my mage started out by annoying the Companions. And then going to the university questline. Dark elf lady is awesome.
Of course, since I was level 2, I had to run off and do more main quest stuff. And I suck at bows. My roguey Vah Shir, er, Khadjiit, got her unarmed up to doing 27 or so damage a hit due to some really nice gloves, but I sent her off to do the Thieves' Guild plotline.
"World-saving? Nah, I'm gonna go threaten an inkeeper now."
She is worst Dragonborn. >_
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General is fine. {= ) by
on 2014-12-20 16:17:00 UTC
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I'm pretty sure all the Dragonborn are the worst at it. {X D There are just too many distractions!
I've only got the one character so far, who started out basically being me. I just sorta felt my way around at first, figuring out what I liked. What I ended up with is a Breton who sucks at magic, but goes around in ebony armor and destroys things with an axe and shield. She's also an alchemist, which is sorta tied to magic, so my backstory for her is that she's actually half Nord, half Breton, and she picked up her warrior skills from her Nord mom while learning alchemy from her Breton grandmother. What her dad's like, I dunno. I also haven't yet figured out how she ended up in position to be captured in an Imperial raid. I kinda feel like she was trying to get out of Skyrim rather than into it, though, and just ended up stuck there because of everything that happened in Helgen.
I haven't finished the game, either. I'm to the point where I'm supposed to infiltrate a certain upper-crust party, which I know is going to be a disaster, and it kinda scares me. I'm level 40, though, so I kinda feel like it's high time I sucked it up and got it over with. I've been working on my sneaking ability and collecting invisibility potions, so I'm hoping I can make it through without bringing a bunch of guards down on my head. We'll see!
Heh, the University quest line also scares me. I got as far as the first leg of it, and then when the guy said "Hey, someone better go tell the Arch-mage about this!" I was like, "Uh, sure! >.> " and took off. I shall never speak to the Arch-mage again. I'm having fun collecting books for Urag gro-Shub, though. ^_^
~Neshomeh