Subject: ((Well...))
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Posted on: 2016-06-29 12:31:00 UTC
((I'd guess that if nobody would object, BTA would take the land and go on to figure how he rules a territory halfway across the island. However, if there are objections, he'd listen to them and remove the... claim, what-have-you.))
((Wrapping this up, since the Council Thread dropped off the first page and no further discussion happened for two days. The Council ended, but this thread is still open for corrections in case the Keeper of the Records got something wrong or Baron Thanasius Ampelius changed his mind or was actually an imposter.))
This Baronial Council was held from the twentieth of June until the twenty-sixth of June in the City of Borrd.
Attendees:
Lady Iximaz (a baron of Plort)
Baroness Juliette
Baron PC
Baron Phobos
Baron Thanasius Ampelius
Baron Neshomeh was absent on a campaign against the Subjugator, but did send a message.
Baron Kaitlyn was not present, but did send a message.
Baron Huinesoron was not present and his messengers were apparently not quite sure what they were meant to message.
Non-deciding attendees:
Filius Caeli, a civilian from the City of Borrd in the Protectorate of Borrd
Freckles, messenger of Kwenaya
Hieronymus the hermit, a civilian from Wechi
Sandra, messenger of Kwenaya
Sir Hardric, a wandering knight
Sir Matthias Snow, a knight from Tumblar in the Riding of Sittorese
Ye Scape-Grace, a knight from Keep De'endee in the Protectorate of Borrd
Agenda:
The Matter of Sittorese – The Riders of Sittorese were invited to present their choice of civil government.
An invocation of the Edict of Bast – Reinstating Barony July in western Sittorese, eastern Wechi and eastern Borrd.
A proposal by Baron Phobos to cede the part of Barony Araeph West of the Hyparlink Route to him, and the part of Barony Cassie South of the Godreve Road to the Barons July, Juliette, and VixenMage to be divided up as they see fit.
A proposal by Baron Thanasius Ampelius, in reaction to Baron Phobos’s proposal, to cede the territory South of the Godreve road to him, because he feels an attraction to the Riding; but he did not say what he intends to do with his territory in Ozerbord.
A proposal by Baron PC, in reaction to Baron Phobos’s proposal, to cede the territory West of the Hyparlink Road to Baron Phobos and Baron July to be divided up as they see fit, but leave it still under Baron Araeph’s custody until Barons Phobos and July come to an actual agreement about their future border.
Decisions:
No Rider of Sittorese showed up to present the Riders' choice of civil government. (Sir Matthias Snow spoke only in the discussion about the distribution of territories, in favor of barons who are actually present.) Filius Caeli suggested having the Baronial Council rule the nation, like may be the custom in Borrd. This suggestion was not supported by any of the barons. Although there may have been some mix up with the barons’ military duties, the resident Baroness Juliette actually spoke against council rule over the Riding. Since the 2015 Baronial Council already proclaimed that supplying the knights of Plort with grain is considered a military matter, no further decision was made. Beyond the resident barons’ military rights and obligations, the Riders of Sittorese are left to their own devices and the ancient Law of Goodriding.
Since nobody attempted to negotiate the borders, no decision was required and Barony July now exists in the boundaries initially set up by the Edict of Bast.
Barons July, Juliette, and VixenMage made no attempt to negotiate about the territory Baron Phobos proposed to cede to them, and not even Baron Phobos opposed to the Raven’s counter-proposal. Thus, Baron Thanasius Ampelius now, by a vote of one to zero, holds territories in Ozerbord and in the Riding of Sittorese.
Baron Phobos proposal of ceding certain portions of Baron Araeph's lands to himself was supported by Baron Neshomeh. Concerning Filius Caeli’s suggestion of dividing the land between Barons Phobos, Neshomeh, Kaitlyn and July, both Baron Neshomeh and Baron Kaitlyn messaged that they do not want any part of this territory. Thus, Baron Iximaz’s initial support of this suggestion is now obviously support of Baron PC’s proposal. Since there is a tie between Phobos/Neshomeh and PC/Iximaz, no decision was made. Baron Araeph keeps all of her territory until next year’s baronial Council, when she may lose it all if she continues neglecting her barony.
((The Keeper of the Records probably got the customs of Borrd wrong. The Protectorate of Borrd is actually not governed by the Baronial Council of all Barons of the Union of Plort. The Council of Borrd is apparently meant to be an assembly of barons who hold territories in Borrd (currently Araeph, Cassie, Huinesoron, Iximaz, July, Kaitlyn, PC and Phobos). It assembles rarely and where its secret proceedings are filed is unknown.
Also, the Keeper of the Records is no cartographer. Redrawing the maps is somebody else’s problem.
HG))
((Here. Or, if you prefer a direct quote:))
Baron Thanasius Ampelius has asked for the land (or someone pretending to be him has), but we can hardly see how any baron can properly govern with several other polities in the way.
((Maybe Baron PC is too obtuse. I won't push too hard for this, though; if TA wants the territory, it's his. Not without some difficulty, of course...))
((The Keeper of the Records interpreted [...] we can hardly see how any baron can properly govern with several other polities in the way as "I cannot imagine that it works, but I’m not saying that it shouldn’t be done".
Based on this preconception, and since it seemed already quite obvious that Barons July, Juliette and VixenMage would not take any parts of Baron Cassie’s territories, the Keeper of the Records didn’t even consider that [...] we would support the border restructuring plan put forward by Baron Phobos—with one alteration [concerning the land Baron Phobos demanded] might be opposition to Baron Thanasius Ampelius counterproposal concerning the land Baron Phobos didn’t want.
Also, the Keeper of the Records may slytherinly try to tweak the "Proceedings" to the results he likes, and he may get away with this unless a baron officially demands the records to be changed.
HG))
I shall have to discipline my body double. No doubt he has my best intentions in mind, but unlike certain someones I would not grab for any piece of land I can hold. I am satisfied with my current territory, thank you very much.
That is not to say that I do not feel something toward the Riding. There has been an awakening. I felt it.
Signed,
Baron Thanasius Ampelius
I should really proofread my posts more carefully.
Apropos that — does Plort even have a mini? What does it look like?
((I'd guess that if nobody would object, BTA would take the land and go on to figure how he rules a territory halfway across the island. However, if there are objections, he'd listen to them and remove the... claim, what-have-you.))
((So now the Raven has two baronies half a country apart, the second being larger than the first.
((So... good luck with that! You get to argue with Cassie/Kyle and July over the population centres at Godreve and Goch't; other than that it's pretty empty over there.
((hS))
[Pokes at some leftover food] Hmm. Cold. How late am I?
Oh, good, someone recorded the proceedings; good hermit, that hermit. Hmmm... Edict of Bast... Phobos, already knew about that...
Thanasius did what?!
-Huinesoron, Baron of Plort, &c
((Thank you for doing this! I've updated the maps to fit, and will get onto the stories and profiles and the like at some point. ~hS))
(...the Plort post had already disappeared off the front page. I'm still going to stay on my technical-but-not-very-good-at-it hiatus until I have some other items wrapped up.)
[The wanderer July reached the hall, finding all abandoned and none present but the Baron Huinesoron.]
...Hm. What did- who invoked the Edict?!
By the saints... so much for staying out of affairs.
-the returned Baron July in Flayme
(I will have a few very late extra portraits put on the board when I return home from work.)
The ways of Bast are mysterious, I suppose. It does seem to have given you a Barony with no major population centres in it.
Oh, and you seem to be Baron of Fanvik now. I trust that you won't be interfering with my position as curator of the Whirl?
-Huinesoron, &c
I will not interfere with the Whirl, no. It is a tradition I hold in high esteem. Anything else, however and we shall have words.
How did you enjoy the present I sent you from far-far-off lands, by the by?
-July, etc
