Subject: So, I take it that "Briton"
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Posted on: 2016-03-15 01:44:00 UTC
is the demonym for people from the UK? Or does it only apply to the three countries that comprise Great Britain?
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The World of PPC, 2016 Edition by
on 2016-03-14 03:23:00 UTC
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Guten Tag, ciao, שלום, halo, bonjou, and greetings!
To think that a series of stories created by two American girls, which parodied bad LoTR fics, would expand into a multi-fandom, intercontinental community such as the PPC currently is! So, of course, the obvious question: How diverse are we?
If memory serves me correctly, we have at least
two Brits (hS, Scapegrace) (three if Cyba Zero is still around)
one German (Hieronymus Graubart)
one Italian (Sergio Turbo)
a triple-citizen (DawnFire) (born in Canada if I remember correctly? The original post is no longer around.)
one Israeli (Desdendelle)
one Indonesian-American (SkarmorySilver)
one Haitian-American (me)
and quite a few others that I won't mention right now.
Obviously, this cannot be the exclusive list of all the countries represented on the PPC Board! So, if I misidentified you, please correct me. And if I have not run across you yet or if I have not identified you, identify yourself if you so please! -
Georgian by
on 2016-03-19 04:45:00 UTC
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State, not country. Atlantean to be more precise, since you can hardly consider Atlanta part of the rest of the state, the culture is so different. (We've actually tried to secede from Georgia a couple of times.)
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Well... by
on 2016-03-18 17:37:00 UTC
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I've got a very convoluted family tree. I'm Italian from my mother's side, and there's Irish, more Italian, and German in me from my father's side. I guess that I'm an Italian-American, then, since I'm almost three-quarters Italian, but I look like I'm either German or Irish, and my surname is Irish in origin.
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Australian! by
on 2016-03-17 13:42:00 UTC
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Currently living in Brisbane, but born near Sydney
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Straya, mate! by
on 2016-03-18 06:44:00 UTC
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Thought I was the only one!
Lived in Brisbane for a bit.
I forgot everything about it except for the fact that my dog died there. -
Polish-Texan here by
on 2016-03-16 15:12:00 UTC
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That's not a pair of adjectives that get put next to each other very often, is it?
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Currently a resident of Colorado. by
on 2016-03-15 05:53:00 UTC
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I was originally born in Florida, but I've spent the vast majority of my life living in this lovely locale. Oh, and to head off two commonly asked questions I've heard from out-of-state folks:
— No, I do not consume any form of cannabis, even though it is legal here.
— No, I will not send you any.
Feel free to visit, but remember to spend a few days acclimatizing. -
Acclimatizing? To what, pray tell? (nm) by
on 2016-03-15 13:39:00 UTC
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The elevation. by
on 2016-03-15 13:57:00 UTC
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Colorado is well over a mile above sea level on average. This can lead to visitors suffering from altitude sickness, especially if they're going into the mountains to ski. The air is also thinner and drier than at lower elevations.
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The north part of California by
on 2016-03-15 05:05:00 UTC
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Specifically, the part with all the liberals.
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Oh, if we're doing ancestry by
on 2016-03-20 07:37:00 UTC
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I'm half-Bulgarian and half-Polish Jew.
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Chicagoland, USA by
on 2016-03-15 02:46:00 UTC
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Yup, Neshomeh and I live in the Windy City. We've got pizza and hot dogs done the right way. Everyone should visit.
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The right way compared to... what exactly? by
on 2016-03-15 13:24:00 UTC
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My money's on "cooking it in a malfunctioning septic tank". =]
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Chicago vs. New York by
on 2016-03-15 13:39:00 UTC
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Chicago and New York have two different styles of making pizza. Chicago pizza is deep-dish, while New York pizza has a thin crust.
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What the hell is that? by
on 2016-03-20 07:55:00 UTC
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It... it looks like a portal to Hell that somebody dropped a minced watermelon in...
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Is that pizza, or lasagne with problems? (nm) by
on 2016-03-15 18:56:00 UTC
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Yes. I know. Deep dish pizza is disgusting. (nm) by
on 2016-03-15 13:42:00 UTC
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"Pizza done right," you say? by
on 2016-03-15 04:07:00 UTC
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This New Yorker begs to differ.
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Re: "Pizza done right," you say? by
on 2016-03-15 10:55:00 UTC
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Try visiting Italy; they also do amazing ice cream.
Then again, I've never tried American pizza. -
Washington State, born and raised. by
on 2016-03-14 20:56:00 UTC
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But alas, I am condemned to the humidity that is the Texas summer, as I have been the past eight years. Family's planning to move to Mexico, though. Should be interesting.
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More from the homeland! by
on 2016-03-15 02:23:00 UTC
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I'm a proud (and slightly wet, after last weekend) Seattlite!
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Ah, Seattle weather. by
on 2016-03-15 05:20:00 UTC
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I lived in South Cle Elum, but it's much the same pattern. Nothing says home to me like the smell of pine and a sopping wet coat.
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Ah, the Cascades by
on 2016-03-15 05:29:00 UTC
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My family had a cabin up near lake Wenatchee when I was growing up, I have many happy memories of long-needle pines. Sadly few of them on this side of the mountains...
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I know the feeling. by
on 2016-03-15 17:34:00 UTC
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I grew up raking copious amounts of pine needles every single year, then I moved to Texas. Switching from cold, wet, and snowy to hot, humid, and excessively mercurial was... Interesting.
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Location by
on 2016-03-14 20:51:00 UTC
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I'm from Washington State, United States of America.
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Washington Highfive! by
on 2016-03-14 21:15:00 UTC
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Didn't expect to see anyone from my home state!
Where in Washington are you from, if you don't mind me asking? I'm from Kittitas county. -
Kittitas County, for real? by
on 2016-03-15 07:10:00 UTC
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I live there!
I mean, not for much longer, since I'm gonna be going off to grad school, but still! Cool. -
Sweet! by
on 2016-03-15 17:37:00 UTC
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I was born in South Cle Elum, but I moved to Texas eight years ago. I have unfortunately been unable to visit for two years now. How are things on the ol' homestead, hmm? Has Washington stopped catching fire yet?
Oh, and congratulations on the grad school thing! What are you studying? -
No, no it has not. by
on 2016-03-17 07:23:00 UTC
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I have high hopes for this year though, since a year with some actual freaking snowfall put some of the reservoirs back on track. The drought last year was pretty brutal. But, hey, maybe several feet of snow on the Nanum will give us some headway.
As to grad school . . . I have no idea. I've been wildly dithering over three options for the past two months. X_X The third offer should come in official capacity soon though, and then it's either a serious decision or a blindfold and a dartboard. -
Well, at least there's hope. by
on 2016-03-17 23:10:00 UTC
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Better than nothing, I suppose. Though I really would prefer it if my home state would just stop immolating itself.
I recommend serious decision. Blindfolds and PPCers with pointy objects don't seem to mix well in my experience.
In all seriousness, though, I hope you figure it out. -
*Accepts High-Five* by
on 2016-03-15 05:08:00 UTC
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I'm from Seattle.
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Tennessee's the Place for Me by
on 2016-03-14 17:10:00 UTC
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I live close enough to Knoxville and the Appalachians (read, like two hours) to know that Aldo Raine's accent was realistic.
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I am by
on 2016-03-14 16:53:00 UTC
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Mostly Germanic (about 75% so), but I also have a smorgasbord of other European ancestry, so I'll just say German-American and be done with it
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In terms of citizenship I'm just plain Americana, Exotica (nm) by
on 2016-03-14 16:54:00 UTC
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You're Haitian-American? Dude, I had no idea! by
on 2016-03-14 16:14:00 UTC
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Also, hello, plain vanilla North Carolina here.
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Perhaps you just forgot. by
on 2016-03-14 16:23:00 UTC
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I did mention that during last year's "World of PPC" thread, which is still available.
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French Canadian, reporting in. by
on 2016-03-14 14:56:00 UTC
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Well, not living in Québec right now but eh.
C'est important de garder l'esprit de la francophonie. -
Who has two thumbs and is from Denmark? by
on 2016-03-14 13:51:00 UTC
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This woman!
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Plus Kaitlyn as an American-Briton. (nm) by
on 2016-03-14 10:37:00 UTC
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So, I take it that "Briton" by
on 2016-03-15 01:44:00 UTC
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is the demonym for people from the UK? Or does it only apply to the three countries that comprise Great Britain?
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More or less. by
on 2016-03-15 02:16:00 UTC
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If you are from Scotland or Wales, you are more likely to be referred to as British or a Briton if you are famous or good at something, generally sport. Take tennis player and human misery-memoir Andy Murray, If he wins, he's British. If he loses, however, then he's as Scottish as deep-fried haggis served on a bagpipe made of kilts. =]
Yes, the English are arbiters of Britishness. This is because we come first. Purely in alphabetical order, I must stress and not at all lie. =] -
"Cymru". "Alba". And "Eire" for that matter. by
on 2016-03-15 11:43:00 UTC
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It's easy to come first when you make up the names for everyone else on the list...!
(The entirety of Ireland isn't part of the UK, but Tuaisceart Éireann doesn't come alphabetically before England, so I cheated.)
'Briton' is moderately unusual nowadays, what with the advent of 'Brit', but it's still the best term I know of.
hS
(We still come before 'Kernow', though. Are we considering Cornwall a country yet? ~hS) -
On UK Demonyms by
on 2016-03-16 01:46:00 UTC
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So let me see if I got this straight so far:
Each of the constituent countries has their own corresponding demonym: "English," "Welsh," "Scottish," or "(Northern) Irish".
And as far as the island of Great Britain is concerned, "Briton" is the more formal demonym, whereas "Brit" is more colloquial.
Do I have it right so far?
And if so, then does that mean that I've unintentionally been leaving out citizens of Northern Ireland when I've been using the term "Brit"? If that is the case, then is there a demonym that encompasses the entire UK? -
De monyms and de other monyms. by
on 2016-03-16 09:35:00 UTC
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There's actually no commonly-acceptable demonym for England, Wales, and either Ireland. What you've listed are the correct adjectives, but the traditional forms of the demonyms are 'Englishman', 'Welshman' etc, which for obvious reasons are going out of use. So we're stuck with 'English person' or, well, 'Briton'.
Scotland is a bit different, because you have 'Scot'. So a Scot is Scottish and comes from Scotland.
The concept of 'British' (and 'Britain' for that matter) is... somewhat under dispute.
*Does it refer to everyone from the British Isles, thus including the entirety of Ireland? That's sort of analogous to calling everyone from North America 'American' - it's correct, but you're going to upset people. (And throw in the fact that 'British Isles' only came into use when England conquered Ireland, to try and pull off a retroactive justification... yeah.)
*Does it mean anyone from the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland? I think this is probably the most common usage, but seems to be the least 'accurate' version.
*Does it mean anyone with British (=UK) citizenship, regardless of geographical location? That includes not only people who've moved away, but also people from the British Overseas Territories, such as Gibraltar and the Falkland Islands. This one is absolutely and strictly accurate, in that they are officially defined as British by their passports - but is also really confusing, since it means you have multiple Caribbean islands occupied entirely by Britons.
*Or does it just mean people from the island of Great Britain, thus ignoring the Northern Irish altogether? Well... there's a bunch of people in Northern Ireland who'd love that! ^_~ And a bunch who'd hate it, because Northern Ireland.
Who even knows any more?
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Re: De monyms and de other monyms. by
on 2016-03-17 02:26:00 UTC
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Thanks for the clarification. Not too long after I made that post, I realized that I had put in the adjectives instead of the demonyms. Thankfully, that didn't throw you off.
Well, it seems that I'll just keep using "Brit" as I have, since that seems to be the most accurate term—though I should also be on the lookout for any Irishmen.
(Speaking of which, does anyone remember whether the Boarder that goes by "the Irish Samurai" is from Northern Ireland or the Republic of Ireland?) -
Depends on whether Charles wants his own kingdom. =] (nm) by
on 2016-03-15 13:25:00 UTC
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Yup, I'm still around. (nm) by
on 2016-03-14 10:06:00 UTC
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There's a Polack among us, too! by
on 2016-03-14 08:24:00 UTC
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That... that is me... Yeah... that's it.
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IIRC, Tomash is Polish, too. by
on 2016-03-14 12:02:00 UTC
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I am, of course, the lone Israeli here. Shabbat Shalom, mother...ers!
I also remember a map with pins for various Boarders existing somewhere, but I can't find it. -
The guestmap host has gone byebye. by
on 2016-03-14 16:22:00 UTC
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Which makes me sad, but oh well.
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Bien le bonjour de France. by
on 2016-03-14 07:34:00 UTC
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Sorry, couldn't resist. domirossi is also French if I remember it right.
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Well, actually, I'm from Corsica. (nm) by
on 2016-03-14 08:58:00 UTC
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Isn't Corsica part of France? (nm) by
on 2016-03-15 04:06:00 UTC
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Geographically, itÂ’s closer to Italy by
on 2016-03-16 12:02:00 UTC
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Politically, it’s a collectivité territoriale with a special status (sort of similar to New Caledonia), and many of its inhabitants are proud on being not French. I’m not sure what they are in their native language. Corsairs?
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I'm from Straya, mate. by
on 2016-03-14 05:29:00 UTC
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Did you know that an integral part of much of our flora's lifestyle is catching fire?
Fun place down here, innit? - I'm sorry, but I have to ask... by on 2016-03-14 08:27:00 UTC Reply
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You'd be surprised. by
on 2016-03-14 10:30:00 UTC
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Queensland IS the Oop North, Only in Florida, 'Howdy There, Cowboy' Texas of Australia.
It's where all the crazy people live, and where all the international stereotypes come from.
It might only be one family, and they are most certainly despised and cast out by their community, and they probably migrated from somewhere in America (I can hear it in his voice, hiding like a nervous child), but I know that it's an accurate accent somewhere.
They're crazy up there. -
Popping in to say: your memory's correct where I'm concerned by
on 2016-03-14 03:46:00 UTC
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Canadian/American/Israeli is the citizenship, since the original post has vanished. Amazingly, I have yet to go to any country apart from these three, even on a visit! That may well change this summer, though.
~DF