Subject: Nope, sorry. Exiles is non-canon. (nm)
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Posted on: 2017-07-18 01:46:00 UTC
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Friday Forum: It's a forum... on Friday! by
on 2017-07-14 15:20:00 UTC
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It's been a hectic week for me this week, but rejoice! I've found time to cobble together a Friday Forum. (We also have the Plort thread immediately below this one, which is fun, I promise!)
Please remember that, when it comes to the state of the world, not everyone will agree with you. You're free to state, discuss, and defend your viewpoint (provided it does not violate the Constitution), but please don't use that fact to attack others.
Fandom News
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From the background scenery of Spider-Man: Homecoming comes a weird bit of trivia from the MCU: apparently, people are worshipping the Asgardians again. The Korean Church of Asgard, or this branch of it, is in New York. Apparently.
Silly News
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The Sri Lankan navy spent the day yesterday trying to rescue an elephant, which they found swimming 10 miles offshore. Apparently it had been trying to swim between islands, but got caught in a current, because... that is a thing elephants do?
You'll be glad to know it made it back to land, with their help.
Serious News
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This was the week in which Donald Trump Jr, seeing his father's campaign attacked over allegations that they colluded with Russia to swing the US election, defended himself by... releasing the emails showing him doing exactly that.
For... some reason.
The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and be very useful to your father.
This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin.
Not News
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This is the Unnecessarily X-Essive project: every character who appeared in Uncanny X-Men: Volume 1, in simplified form. And I mean every character. Over 2500 of them.
It took the artist over two years.
... folks, it's been a weird week.
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Woo, reaction time! by
on 2017-07-18 00:24:00 UTC
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To Fandom News:
Haha, that's great! I love it!
To Silly News:
Interesting story. Wonder why the elephant wanted to do that?
To Serious News:
No comment. Humans do not make sense sometimes.
To Not News:
Wooooooow... O.O
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Not going to remember this by Friday, so: by
on 2017-07-17 08:55:00 UTC
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There's some Star Wars: The Last Jedi behind-the-scenes footage out there, and I'd just like to say:
Alolan Vulpix: confirmed!
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Fandom News: Doctor Who! by
on 2017-07-14 18:44:00 UTC
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Matt Cipher has just informed me that the next Doctor will be announced on Sunday!
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There is a claim (spoilers for this & the season finale)... by
on 2017-07-17 09:03:00 UTC
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... in one of the Doctor Who Unbound audio books (they're AUs, and actually pretty awesome), that Time Lords will switch sex if they regenerate due to committing suicide. (The one I'm thinking of is Exile, the first full-length story to feature a female Doctor. She is probably an AU Three, having escaped from Time Lord justice presumably as Two.)
Well, so far that pretty much holds up. The two sex-change regenerations we've seen are the General standing in front of the Doctor's gun even when he's checking whether (s)he'll regenerate, and the Master literally stabbing him/herself in the back (assuming Simms did in fact regenerate directly into Missy).
Assuming this is part of the ongoing regeneration from the finale... well, he did trap himself on a deck full of Cybermen and walk in front of their guns while planning to blow the whole place to smithereens. It's not hard to call that suicide, too.
(Of course, if you do that, the Doctor practically always commits suicide...)
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Nope, sorry. Exiles is non-canon. (nm) by
on 2017-07-18 01:46:00 UTC
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Whoa, timewarp. by
on 2017-07-18 06:33:00 UTC
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It's like I already answered that once...
(Seriously, people, I wasn't serious. It was just an amusing thought.)
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Not funny. (nm) by
on 2017-07-18 21:31:00 UTC
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No? by
on 2017-07-18 23:13:00 UTC
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Okay; I'm sorry for drawing a connection between the current announcement and a past piece of Doctor Who fiction that you don't find amusing.
I believe the /other/ regeneration to female was after being shot by a Dalek, in Curse of the Fatal Death. The Cyberman-shooting in this instance matches that pretty well, too.
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I don't take Exile as canon, tbh. by
on 2017-07-17 10:36:00 UTC
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This is for multiple reasons. Most of them are below, and are because this audio includes:
- The Doctor drinking and vomiting (with very realistic sound effects)
- Major transphobia, including some voiced by David Tennant
- A very loose plot revolving explosive gasses from human waste in the car park at the store the Doctor works in
- David Tennant eating dog food
- Frequent discussion of poo
- Yet more transphobia
- Seriously, here’s a quote from it: “Doctor, you have been found guilty of crimes against the laws of time and Time Lord decency. You stole a TARDIS and interfered in the affairs of others, but worst of all, you had a sex-change regeneration.”
it's.... really not good. I'd prefer not to ever think about its existence, let alone take the 'Time Lords committing suicide' part as canon.
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Welp, that's my day ruined. *leaves the internet* (nm) by
on 2017-07-17 21:43:00 UTC
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If it helps... by
on 2017-07-17 22:32:00 UTC
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... here's Colin Baker saying it should have happened ages ago.
Also, 'Exile' was deliberately a massive tonal shift from normal Doctor Who. The two Time Lords who come after her are basically a comic villainous duo. They are emphatically written to be obnoxious. Deliberately.
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This is the Whoniverse. by
on 2017-07-17 11:47:00 UTC
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Everything is canon. :D No, seriously, that's the premise of the Tardis Wikia: everything is valid to some extent.
Obviously DWU: Exile takes place in a weird side universe, but that doesn't mean its physical laws are invalid. (Also it amuses me that it's yet another story with 'future Doctor actor plays a Time Lord who beats up the Doctor' - hi, Colin Baker!)
But yes. I've only listened to the Unbound stories once each, so while I recommend the concept, I can't really comment on the quality. And no, it's absolutely not something that's going to be held up/looked to as canon.
(In fact, Unbound has already been explicitly made uncanon at least once - the one where the Doctor gets shot immediately after regenerating, and thus regenerates again. Um, no - depending on how it's done, that would either cause the regeneration to fail, or cause a River Song-esque light show. It certainly wouldn't cause a second regeneration.)
But it's still an amusing idea. And maybe Time Lord Tennant is just... not a very nice person? (In fact... pretty sure he isn't, thinking about that story.)
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HYPE (nm) by
on 2017-07-16 16:54:00 UTC
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Yep by
on 2017-07-14 20:01:00 UTC
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It's being announced after the Wimbledon mens final
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Another New Church! by
on 2017-07-14 15:51:00 UTC
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With the addition of the church of Asgard, there apparently was a church of Hanzo established in Brazil!
Here are some of their principles:
“Preach peace and harmony on the internet and online communities.“
A free Tuesday per month for religious studies (i.e., playing Overwatch).
Consumption of high-calorie foods.
Initiation into the church and baptism completed by playing an Overwatch match — (or, if the new convert doesn’t own Overwatch, the free-to-play Paladins game will suffice).
The term “Hanzo Main” and the act of “rage quitting” a game are considered sins.
Hate speech and toxic behavior in streams are also sins.
It seems fairly legitimate, as there was seemingly a document obtained from the Brazilian Government giving a thumbs-up. https://assets.vg247.com/current//2017/07/churchofhanzo_1.jpg
If anyone wants to translate that, be my guest!
- Maxewell
