You misunderstand

Shout Out to The Nameless Admin by Mattman The Comet on 2016-11-21 01:40:00 UTC Reply

For putting in the double time on moderation in these trying times. What a trooper.

On the view held by some about the NA by Orwell on 2016-11-21 06:37:00 UTC Reply

And by some I mean at least two, though I doubt we're the only ones. I'll just copy paste an excerpt from our messages.

"we have no mods, we just have a 'nameless' admin everyone knows the identity of who has the power to delete and change posts as they please and noone questions this.

How is this preferable to actual moderation?"

It was one said... by Delta Juliette on 2016-11-21 15:41:00 UTC Reply

"Admins make excellent janitors and terrible dictators" - Wandering Critic

That's eight years ago, at this point ( Juliette plays the oldbie card!), but the sentiment still holds true, imo. When we recovered the admin account, we realized the terrible powers it contained, and had a long discussion about how to preserve the creative-anarchist community we'd built without it.

I can recall exactly one post which the Nameless Admin edited- someone, appearing under a new name and questioning the community and its structure (not unlike yourself!) used a fairly nasty slur in the process, and the Nameless Admin removed said slur and signed the change. That was it. The discussion continued.

And, to pose a question in return, how would this be different in a more conventionally moderated board? There would still be someone with the authority to do whatever they willed to posts and users, they would just display that authority on their sleeve rather than it being something that is only picked up when needed. Even if we built a forum without such a role, someone would still have the database login- and then you've traded an adminity that can be given to anyone to one that can only be used by the technologically adept.

For years and years, we had a community that was both incredibly vibrant and also resistant to trolls by its very nature. And you know what? I think we still do. All we need the Nameless Admin for is janitorial work.

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+1 (nm) by Cat-on-the-Keyboard on 2016-11-30 04:47:00 UTC Reply
+1 (nm) by Tomash on 2016-11-21 17:40:00 UTC Reply

Because the Nameless Admin doesn't. by Huinesoron on 2016-11-21 07:10:00 UTC Reply

It deletes posts by users who have been banned and refuse to stick to the ban voluntarily. That includes the Tor-using troll, among others. The Nameless Admin doesn't moderate based on opinion, or violations of the Constitution, or anything else: just as a technical measure when trolls or spambots get around the IP block.

I am granting you the assumption of good faith here and not assuming you're just the same troll again. But I can't imagine a single good reason for you to post anonymously.

hS

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Anonymous? The furthest thing from it. by Orwell on 2016-11-21 07:24:00 UTC Reply

I am genuine. And if you do not delete at will, why did you delete my first post? I am neither a troll nor a tor user, nor for that matter am I previously banned user.

I, personally... by Huinesoron on 2016-11-21 07:29:00 UTC Reply

... have deleted two posts under the name Toroll, and nothing more.

You are posting under a name quite obviously chosen for this discussion, while implying that you have previously been part of the PPC community under another name (you've discussed things with one other person, started posting 'recently', and say 'everybody knows' about something that, actually, isn't often stated aloud). That is not 'the furthest thing' from anonymous: it's deliberate anonymity.

hS

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You misunderstand by Orwell on 2016-11-21 07:40:00 UTC Reply

Orwell is my name. Pleasure to make your acquaintance. I may be friends with amother member, and communicate with them privately, but this is the first time I have deigned to post on the board.

Of course, I forget, there are multiple "nameless" admins. It must have been your partner then, my appologies.

"Deigned" by Cat-on-the-Keyboard on 2016-11-30 04:52:00 UTC Reply

Please don't bother with us at all, if you consider posting here to be beneath your dignity.

--Key is my name as much as Orwell is yours here, and I am as pleased to meet you as you are to meet us.

Speaking of which... by Neshomeh on 2016-11-21 03:37:00 UTC Reply

I was wondering why the whole thread Ix started is gone. That's not usually done. Nuking troll posts, sure, but the whole thread? How come?

~Neshomeh

I assume it was because it was irreparably troll-sidetracked (nm by VixenMage on 2016-11-21 03:43:00 UTC Reply
It was getting out of hand. by Iximaz on 2016-11-21 03:42:00 UTC Reply

Instead of a discussion about Data Junkie acting against the Constitution, it was basically

>Trolololol
>>Do not feed the trolls
>>>Trolololololololol
>>>>Do not feed the trolls
>>>>>Trolololololololol

And nothing good was going to come from it, especially since it seems Data has left the Board anyway.

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Alas. by Neshomeh on 2016-11-21 04:47:00 UTC Reply

My inner archivist is twitching about the loss of history, that's all.

~Neshomeh

Heh. by VixenMage on 2016-11-21 15:43:00 UTC Reply

I'm glad it's not just me. I definitely agree that it should have been thread-nuked, and I agree with the decision to wipe Toroll's posts as soon as they appear, but at the same time my first reaction is always a little voice of "But the information!" Even when the thread is become pointless.

Heck to the yes. (nm) by VixenMage on 2016-11-21 02:57:00 UTC Reply
*applause* (nm) by Iximaz on 2016-11-21 01:43:00 UTC Reply