Subject: Proposing "revunge".
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Posted on: 2012-11-24 06:37:00 UTC
For all those shallow "I must avenge my dead father/mother/sibling/mentor/dog/cat/gerbil/earwig/pet stone" plots.
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Sue Emoshun List? by
on 2012-11-24 03:15:00 UTC
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So SC, Lily, ThatOne, SingingTheThunder, firemagic, and I -pauses to catch her breath- are MSTing a Doctor Who badfic, and the topic of Suvian emotions ('emoshuns') came up. SC and I are wondering if there is a list of Suvian emoshuns on the Wiki (there doesn't appear to be), and if such a thing is un/necessary to have anyway.
I was thinking it could be a quickie reference page, kind of like the Suvian color spectrum page. Examples of emoshuns are 'twu wuv' and 'sarcasum'.
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Suggestion by
on 2012-11-24 17:08:00 UTC
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We've all seen examples of twu wuv, wangst, and trajeck pasts in Suefics, but are there real life examples for these new ones? I think it'll be a stronger list if there are, supposing that its purpose is to point out the inherent shallowness of Mary Sue characters/characterization. It doesn't work so well if it's mostly stuff we've made up in this thread; all that shows is that we can make stuff up.
Also, how do concepts that aren't actually emotions fit in, like sarcasm and tragic backstories? And, beware of going overboard with the bad spelling. For instance, if you were making fun of shallow revenge plots, would you actually pronounce it "revunge"? (Perhaps "rahvenge"?) What about "fwendsheep"? (Just "fwendship," maybe?) Just some things to think about.
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Not everything needs such a spelling. by
on 2012-11-24 18:40:00 UTC
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Also, things like fwendship, trajeck pasts and rahvenge are more like concepts.
So, Suvian Concepts as a page instead of emoshuns (which sounds a wee bit too silly for me)? -
It could be a page by
on 2012-11-24 20:22:00 UTC
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With suvian "characterization" traits and emotions. For example, "trajeck" back-stories, Rahvenge, and Sarcasum are parts of a sue's "characterization" whereas stuff like "twu wuv," is an emotion. (Having friendsheep in the story is more of a plot/characterization point, especially if it's about the sue's "BFF" who is only there when convenient. I support the spelling of friendsheep over fwendship, by the way, if only for the added puns about these people's role in the story.)
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Not a bad idea, actually... by
on 2012-11-26 15:12:00 UTC
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Suvian Concepts page sounds better. And then the page could be split into categories for emotions and concepts. I liiiike.
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I second Friendsheep, because that is brilliant. by
on 2012-11-24 22:00:00 UTC
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Also, as discussed on the Rouge Weeping Angles of Satin MST, you deserve a Fridge Brilliance award for "Circle of Lemmings".
Let me tell you why. -
I also second Friendsheep by
on 2012-11-26 08:19:00 UTC
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I think it very nicely covers the Sueish idea of what friends should be.
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Re: I second Friendsheep, because that is brilliant. by
on 2012-11-25 21:47:00 UTC
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Well, as everyone knows, Friendsheep is Magick.
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Specs, you rock. (nm) by
on 2012-11-26 01:35:00 UTC
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That Anonymous wasn't me this time... by
on 2012-11-26 01:44:00 UTC
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But I'll gladly be praised by my
loyal peasantspeers. -
That Anonymous, however, was. by
on 2012-11-26 01:45:00 UTC
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Damn it.
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*Bows* by
on 2012-11-24 22:26:00 UTC
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Thank you for being our secret agent, by the way. Lol, I only mentioned lemmings because when I opened the page it was only high-volume fandoms and quizzes, so I figured that the site's denizens were good little media-consumer lemmings that only did stuff that matched all the other stuff on the site. I didn't yet know how right I was.
Also, you rock. If I could work a tumblr short of throwing it at the wall and yelling at it, I'd follow you.
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*Bows* by
on 2012-11-24 22:26:00 UTC
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Thank you for being our secret agent, by the way. Lol, I only mentioned lemmings because when I opened the page it was only high-volume fandoms and quizzes, so I figured that the site's denizens were good little media-consumer lemmings that only did stuff that matched all the other stuff on the site. I didn't yet know how right I was.
Also, you rock. If I could work a tumblr short of throwing it at the wall and yelling at it, I'd follow you.
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I'd support a Suvian Concepts page over 'emoshuns' as well (nm) by
on 2012-11-24 19:17:00 UTC
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The beef is (partially) mine. by
on 2012-11-24 17:56:00 UTC
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I take responsibility for the bad spelling one.
Sorry; my mind completely shut down after a point. -
Sure by
on 2012-11-24 16:07:00 UTC
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That seems like a good thing. If I run into any other sue emoshun I'll lat you know.
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So by this point we're up to... by
on 2012-11-24 14:52:00 UTC
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Twu wuv, wangst, and trajeck for the linked emoshuns, and sarcasum, revunge, vejunse, erhmahgerd, lurve, haet, and fwendsheep for the mini-definition emoshuns. And, of course, there's the definition of 'emoshuns' to start the new page off. Sweet.
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I might have more. by
on 2012-11-24 15:45:00 UTC
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Arguably, Twu Wuv (At Fuhst Sait) could also count.
And Exawschun.
(I think you pointed that one out, Kitty.) -
Shun the emo Sue, SHUN! (nm) by
on 2012-11-24 14:32:00 UTC
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Bahaha. (nm) by
on 2012-11-24 14:45:00 UTC
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Lurve should be there. by
on 2012-11-24 07:58:00 UTC
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As far as I know, lurve is a sub-emoshun of twu wuv.
Let us also not forget haet and erhmagerd. (/bricked) -
In ermahgerd's defense... by
on 2012-11-24 10:56:00 UTC
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Hey, at least ermahgerd is funny.
Ooh! Here's another one: fwendsheep. Because every god damned Sue plot seems to have one in some minuscule sense or another. -
Proposing "revunge". by
on 2012-11-24 06:37:00 UTC
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For all those shallow "I must avenge my dead father/mother/sibling/mentor/dog/cat/gerbil/earwig/pet stone" plots.
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Sub-proposing Venjunse by
on 2012-11-24 10:54:00 UTC
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Because that's what revunge is, defined another way.
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Re: Sue Emoshun List? by
on 2012-11-24 03:54:00 UTC
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I believe that there are already pages for twu wuv, trajeck, and wangst, but if you wanted to you could probably make a list with hyperlinks to the pre-existing pages, like on the list of minis.
Also, being a very sarcastic person myself, I find sarcasum hilarious. -
That's kind of what I was, planning, actually... by
on 2012-11-24 14:45:00 UTC
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I just didn't know how to word it. I think I do now, though: Links to the ones that have pages, and one- to three-sentence descriptions for the rest. Isn't that kind of how the Bleeprin page works?
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Agreed. by
on 2012-11-24 04:22:00 UTC
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Sarcasum is a glorious emoshun to have.