Subject: One of us! One of us! (nm)
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Posted on: 2018-03-09 14:32:00 UTC
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Blog plug - Character Analysis by
on 2018-03-08 17:37:00 UTC
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Last time I plugged my MTG blog it was with a deck tech, which I understand has a narrow appeal. But this is the PPC; we are readers, writers, and watchers of things. We like to analyze things, and look at characters in interesting ways. To that end, I give you: Color Analysis - MCU Avengers
In this article, I look at Captain America, Iron Man, and Black Widow, and I assign them a three color combination based on their personality. It's not only fun, it is also educational. I use this as one method of better understanding characters that I am reading or writing about (other methods may include Space Marine Legions and classical elements).
So, please read my article and, if you are feeling it, try your hand at assigning colors to your own characters. You can also argue your own interpretation of other peoples' characters (but let the author have first crack at it, please). I'll look at my own PPC Agents in a comment below.
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This was very thoughtfully done. by
on 2018-03-14 17:38:00 UTC
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Usually, when I try to apply the color pie to non-Magic characters, I end up going either monocolor or two-colored. I think that's because I've been looking more at the themes presented by such characters than trying to look at their underlying motivations.
I'll try to use your method for a few of my characters and aim for three colors, but I'm not sure I'll be as analytical as you.
Doc
I think I can get Doc pretty well, since he's still largely me. Primary color is absolutely white, and for a different reason than I've seen any other character in this thread be pegged as white. The saying goes "you're either a leader or a follower," and Doc and I are followers, hands-down. Referring to myself as a sidekick is a running gag at work, and I often go in early/stay late to do extra work, because to my mind, my time is spent better on the animals at the zoo than on myself; I am their servant. Translating this to Doc, I feel that he sees himself as servant to all the worlds under his protection, and doesn't have as much motivation to go out into HQ and spend time on anything other researching new canons.
But of course, Doc's love of books also has an element of greed and obsession to it. While cards themed with greed tend to be black cards in Magic, I feel that Doc's tendency to fly into a rage when books are threatened, coupled with the servanthood attitude from his white slice of the pie, which makes the books themselves his focus, make this attribute more red for him than black.
The tertiary color is where Doc and I diverge. I think Doc's tertiary is green. This mostly comes from the manner in which the both of us prefer to read: very slowly, savoring each sentence, and allowing the story to unfold itself at its own pace, rather than hurrying through and skimming. My full time+ job sometimes forces me to forego reading the way I like, during lunch breaks and such, but Doc is able to read my original, green way. (I think my "tertiary" has split into a tie between green and blue, since my job requires me to be proactive in planning and problem solving.)
So Doc is WRG.
Vania
Vania is probably going to be the hardest for me, if only because of thespoilers. Looking at her as I picture her base state, before she was recruited to the PPC, she was very friendly and outgoing, participating in campus activities and trying to get along with everyone. This mostly sounds white, but there's also an element of recklessness and jumping to snap decisions in her character. I think I'm going to cheat and say her primary is a relatively even split between red and white.
Tertiary is a bit hard. Her narrative has had a small element of showing people the ropes in a new situation. I think that would be blue rather than green, though I'm not entirely certain. Although I just noticed she's very near to becoming the same colors as Doc, so let's go with blue, but a very small blue.
Vania is WRu.
Paul
aka, the flashback character no one remembers or cares about. He does exist, though, in some of PoorCynic's writing exercises, here and here, if you scroll down to "2. Responding to criticism . . ." in the first link.
Since he's flashback-only, and was basically just a past antagonist to Vania, I very intentionally designed Paul to be Not Nice. That second prompt seems to show him caring for his Pokémon, but he's ultimately just acting that way because he thinks it will make them grow stronger, faster. (Didn't reallt write it that well, in retrospect.) It's the same rote, empty act as giving your Pokémon a haircut in the games to increase their Friendship stat by 1: it represents care and attention, but is really nothing more than a game mechanic. Paul wants to make his Pokémon powerful, he single-minded about that goal, and he doesn't want others controlling his life. Paul's primary color is easily black.
Even in the PPC, where he has actual, living Pokémon instead of game data, and can physically go to the Pokémon universe, Paul still looks at those things in terms of stats and numbers and strategy guides, because those are things he can know in his head, without being distracted by the open-ended randomness of the organic world. There's no subjectivity in his charge lists, either; there's only right and wrong. Paul is confident he knows which is which, and dictates it to the badfic accordingly. Paul's secondary color is blue.
For tertiary, weirdly, I think it's actually green. Even though Paul's care for his Pokémon is largely arbitrary, the fact that he's putting that time in, rather than pumping them full of Rare Candies to get them fully evolved as soon as possible, is an aspect of green. He's letting the Pokémon grow on their own time, getting them experience points and effort values bit by bit as he battles Sue trainers. (Which I just remembered is outlawed . . . in the modern setting . . . maybe Paul's screwing around back in the day is the reason for that rule existing now?)
Paul is BUG. Though he has no Bug-types.
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Thank you! by
on 2018-03-15 18:56:00 UTC
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Character analysis is a hobby of mine, and I spend a fair bit of time thinking about it. That's why this article was so in-depth. I was also writing this for over a month because it was schuled for Feb 15, but got pushed back for a different article. Anyway, let's take a look at what you've got.
I'm kind of surprised that there is not Blue in Doc's colors. Maybe it is just a difference of perspective, I don't know. It's just a color I would associate with you and, by extension, Doc.
I do like your analysis of White in Doc's first paragraph. It seems to be a kind of self-sacrificing thing, and that fits very nicely into White, which believes that the individual is less important than the cause (the animals at the zoo, in your case).
I like that you gave Vania a splash color in Blue. Not all colors need to be fully realized in a character at all times. As a card, Vania would probably be White/Red nine times out of ten. But every once in a while she might be all three, or even White/Blue.
I'm really impressed by your analysis of Paul, in particular. You've really put a lot of thought into why he does what he does. Maybe because you felt no one would know who he was, so you had to go the extra mile? From your descriptions I get a very good idea of who this character is, and totally agree with your color choices. He reminds me of a guy from Season 1 of the Pokemon Anime. The guy with the "gym" where he was training his Sandshrew.
Anyway, I think you have done an excellent job with all three of these characters.
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Blueness in Doc by
on 2018-03-16 13:36:00 UTC
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At his face, Doc definitely presents as the type of character Magic would portray as blue. But I tried to look at him the way you looked at those Avengers, by motivation rather than by attributes. He's not reading to gain knowledge, but to be better at his job, and because he enjoys it to nearly unhealthy levels.
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Let's try this. by
on 2018-03-10 10:52:00 UTC
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Richard Legard: White/Blue/Red. Richard like the idea of peace, moral and just good, however... While we're not on the scale of Notary's 'White is pure Order' there is the downside he's also a rather passive streak there, letting himself follow the order and, more often than not, the logic, the facts and his head rather than guts.
Yet, deep down he's emotionally invested behind the passivity and the intellect, and would like to express this more. To steal from oter systems, his behaviour can lead him to Lawful Neutral, but deep down he craves the idea of being Chaotic Good... Provided his worldviews and ideals aren't shattered first.
Marina Nicodelli: White/Black/Red. Marina is less about 'good' as order, but she would very much like to see a world of peace and ione of rules followed... Except of course reality doesn't work that way. The world is unfair, and sometimes enforcing some form of order requires to break some rules... So be it, be she's very much not letting the means take the lead on the ends, some rules aren't escapable.
However, for all the cynism and the order, she will react strongly to any topic sensitive to her. And while she harbors some curiosity about other magics, deep down her response to it is rather emotional, with the discovery of the unknown... provided the unknown don't break the rules she holds dear or gives answers she dislikes. Moreover, there's the fact she awaits for the day she can leave the PPC behind, in no small part because of the loved ones she left behind. -
Late reply is late by
on 2018-03-15 18:32:00 UTC
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Sorry, I've been working on my new article for a bit, and this got away from me. Let's take a look at what you've got.
Your description of Richard definitely reads as White/Blue. I will say that if he longs to be Chaotic Good, he's a long way off at Lawful Neutral. Needs more of that Red to come out, I think.
White/Black is one of my favorite color combinations, because of all of the enemy color pairs I feel like Black and White are the furthest apart, as far as philosophy goes. That makes White/Black characters have to be a bit deeper to justify themselves.
All in all, I think you've got this down. Well done.
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Looks like fun! by
on 2018-03-09 09:57:00 UTC
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Dafydd is a person of deep contrasts. His primary is obviously red - he's an impulsive individualist, and also a pyro. Secondary has to be his arrogance - as a Feanorion, he's very sure he's better than everyone. I think that's black. But underneath, he's very much a traditionalist - he gets twitchy when he's not able to do elven things. So that makes him green.
Agent Kaitlyn is also primarily red, but in a different way - she's so bouncy that she sees all of life as an adventure. Secondarily, I think she's white - partly because she Just Wants Everyone To Get Along, but also because she is at heart a rule-follower - she actually requisitioned a chair for herself, rather than stealing one! Tertiary... I'm not sure she has one; blue, if anything, because she is pretty smart.
Morgan is primarily white. She sees herself as a creature of order, and tries to get people to rally to the cause. (This has on at least one occasion led her to conquer all of reality, but, y'know, it happens.) Backing that up is her blue character, as someone who will plan herself into the ground if given the chance. But... buried under all that is a fiery strain of red, which tends to lead her to wild improvising and occasional explosions.
I'm having trouble with Selene. I think her primary might be green, odd though that sounds - she's devoting a lot of energy to not rocking the boat, which is a sort of twisted version of green. Under that she's definitely red, being a vampire who is driven by her instincts if not careful. And third? ... I don't think she has one; it would be red again, because under all the above she's a fragile person who basically just wants a friend. That red is doing double service in two very different aspects.
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Re: Looks like fun! by
on 2018-03-09 15:00:00 UTC
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So, arrogance is a difficult thing to categorize. It can be any of the five colors, depending on what you are being arrogant about. For instance, a character who thinks he is smarter than everyone else *cough*MagnusTheRed*cough* is arrogant in Blue. A character who thinks they are better than others because of morality is arrogant in White.
I think Dafydd is probably arrogant in Green. He is better than everyone else because of who and what he was born to be (Elf/Feanorian/whatever else). It's natural that he should be better than those poor unfortunate souls. But there's nothing to be done, they just weren't born to it like he was, and they should just accept their inferiority.
Does that ring true?
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Seriously? by
on 2018-03-09 15:29:00 UTC
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Why does everyone beat up on my Primarch? Lion and Guilliman and Russ and all weren't exactly saints either, ya know... :-P
...Come to think of it, most of the Primarchs are arrogant in one color or another. Russ, for instance, in... I think Green: He's better because of the traditions he follows. OTOH, I am... not the most versed in Space Wolf lore. So I could be totally off-base here.
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Since we're on Warhammer now... by
on 2018-03-09 16:18:00 UTC
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I Dark Angels: White/Black
II Unknown: Blue/White or Green/Red
III Emperor's Children: Blue/Green
IV Iron Warriors: Green/Blue
V White Scars: Red/Black
VI Space Wolves: Green/Black
VII Imperial Fists: Green/White
VIII Night Lords: Black/White
IX Blood Angels: White/Red
X Iron Hands: Red/Blue
XI Unknown: Blue/White or Green/Red
XII World Eaters: Black/Red
XIII Ultramarines: White/Blue
XIV Death Guard: Black/Green
XV Thousand Sons: Blue/Red
XVI Sons of Horus: Red/Green
XVII Word Bearers: Red/White
XVIII Salamanders: White/Green
XIX Raven Guard: Blue/Black
XX Alpha Legion: Black/Blue
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Theory: the Imperium is Black/White. by
on 2018-03-10 14:34:00 UTC
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"The galaxy is a mess, and I just need to subjugate or destroy anything that gets in the way of ruling it, by any means necessary."
It could've been White/Black to begin with, but at some point the Black "me first" side took over. It might look like Black/White/Blue for all the tech (the Emperor himself is probably White/Black/Blue) but it's really Black/White/Green. They don't really understand half the stuff they're using; they just do because that's how it's done, and woe betide anyone who dares to change anything.
Interestingly, according to Phobos' color assignments for the legions, there's a fairly clear White/Black split between the loyalists and the traitors. Check it out:
Loyal
I Dark Angels: White/Black
V White Scars: Red/Black
VI Space Wolves: Green/Black
VII Imperial Fists: Green/White
IX Blood Angels: White/Red
X Iron Hands: Red/Blue
XIII Ultramarines: White/Blue
XVIII Salamanders: White/Green
XIX Raven Guard: Blue/Black
Four out of nine primary White, plus one secondary White. No primary Black, four secondary Black. The Dark Angels represent the original coloration of White/Black.
We also see two primary Green (one secondary), two primary Red (one secondary), and one primary Blue (one secondary).
So, let's say we give one point for a primary color, half a point for a secondary. The order breaks down like this:
White (4.5)
Green (2.5)
Red (2.5)
Black (2)
Blue (1.5)
Traitor
III Emperor's Children: Blue/Green
IV Iron Warriors: Green/Blue
VIII Night Lords: Black/White
XII World Eaters: Black/Red
XIV Death Guard: Black/Green
XV Thousand Sons: Blue/Red
XVI Sons of Horus: Red/Green
XVII Word Bearers: Red/White
XX Alpha Legion: Black/Blue
On the flip side, here we have four primary Black, no secondary Black, and no primary White, only two secondary White. The Night Lords represent the current coloration of Black/White.
Next in predominance is Red (two primary, two secondary) or Blue (also two primary, two secondary), then Green (one primary, three secondary).
Breaking it down the same way, we get:
Black (4)
Blue (3)
Red (3)
Green (2.5)
White (1)
It's not quite a perfect mirror around a Red axis, but it's close. Pretty interesting!
I wonder what other conclusions we might draw from this?
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It's all because you're here. ;) by
on 2018-03-09 15:40:00 UTC
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Also, more seriously, because while virtually every single
Primarchuh, significant person of any description in 40K is arrogant... Magnus is the one whose arrogance manifested as 'I know better than Daddy' without also becoming 'so I'm gonna kill him'. (Oversimplification much? :D)
Unrelated, but you will appreciate: in a completely unrelated board game, I was playing as a bunch of power-armoured soldiers when I fulfilled the conditions for introducing an alien faction to the game. My soldiers got a permanent effect marking them as alien collaborators, so... basically in my head they are Chaos Space Marines forever now. ^_^
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Yeah... by
on 2018-03-09 16:30:00 UTC
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Basically. The closest thing to a humble Primarch is Guilliman.
Also, I think that would make them Cabal rather than Chaos. Or just straight-up rogue. I don't think the Cabal has been around for a while, really... -
Humility by
on 2018-03-09 16:41:00 UTC
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Guilliman? The same guy who thought he was smart enough to codify war and put it into one instruction manual? The same guy who thought he was the Emperor's successor (he had someone else on the throne, but you know who was calling the shots). That guy is not even in the same galaxy as humble.
My pick for most humble Primarch is Jaghatai Khan. Dude doesn't ask anyone for anything. He just wants to tool around the cosmos on his jetbike with his sons. He doesn't want to rule anything. He doesn't want a grand purpose. He just wants to be.
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Okay, actually yeah. by
on 2018-03-09 16:52:00 UTC
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I wasn't thinking quite clearly. Although, to his credit, Guilliman was a little more humble than that implies (namely in terms of the Codex), but aaanyways...
Yeah, I'd say Khan's a strong contender, but it's also put in Vulkan for consideration, especially for the high degree of value he places on mortal life. -
I think it does. by
on 2018-03-09 15:21:00 UTC
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So he's come out as doubly-green - once for the 'innate superiority', second for the 'I just wanna do the old-fashioned thing'.
If he has a tertiary colour, it has to be one that moderates that green. By and large, Dafydd doesn't split other people into mental 'castes', which you'd expect from your description. He is better; they can do what they please.
I'm not sure what that would be. It's almost like a twisted black - that same sociopathy, but rather than manifesting as 'I can do whatever I want to you', it comes out as 'I don't care enough to do anything'. Not quite, of course, but there's a definite undercurrent of ignoring everyone's little squabbles.
... I'm not making him look very good, am I?
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Sounds like RGB to me... by
on 2018-03-09 17:49:00 UTC
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A big part of Black is self-interest. The idea of "I'll look after myself, I don't care about you," is a very black one.
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... Alright, go on then. Wobbles, the Notary, and Lola. by
on 2018-03-09 07:13:00 UTC
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Wobbles the Clown: WHITE/RED/GREEN
Primary: White. Wobbles is someone who wants people to be happy. It's the core of her being. Helping people be happy, putting things in place so that people who aren't happy can become happy, these are things she views as the highest good. 'S'why she tried out for the Department of Angst before being shoved into Floaters.
Secondary: Red. Wobbles is very much an emotionally driven person - and it's here that we see the slightly darker side of that. See, Wobbles abhors negative emotions (classic Whovians may recall the Happiness Patrol) and does everything in her power to defy and diminish them, regardless of how healthy that may be in the long run. It's emotional freedom, but only the freedom to feel certain emotions, which is why she's only a secondary Red and not a primary.
Tertiary: Green. It was a struggle as to which of these went first, but I decided to put Red as having precedence over Green despite her enforced connection to the natural world (or rather, her enforced disavowal of modern technology). Indeed, it might be because it's so forced; it's not so much a part of her psyche as it is a part of her physiology. Hroa rather than fear, as the elves say.
The Fifth Notary: WHITE/BLACK/BLUE
Primary: White: This is an entirely different kind of White to Wobbles. The Notary craves structure more than anything else, a system of rules and regulations that govern everything from Brownian motion in a teacup to the dance of galactic clusters. This basic, intrinsic need for order above all else makes her White alignment somewhat darker than others, but ho hum. Remember, to a non-believer, even the holiest angel is just another monster.
Secondary: Black: Of course, as far as the Notary's concerned, the whole point of a system is to learn how to rig it in your favour. This is the central conflict in her psyche; she craves order and rules, but chafes against their restrictions when they get in the way of what she actually wants.
Tertiary: Blue: In order to get ahead in a system governed by rules, you have to understand them; in order to understand them, you have to be smart in a lot of different ways. The Notary embodies this to an extent; a very detail-oriented person with an axe to grind against improperly-completed forms. Again, it was a struggle as to which of these was the stronger attribute.
Lola McCandless: BLUE/WHITE/RED
Primary: Blue: When it comes to field command, you need command intelligence. You need to have a precise and in-depth knowledge of tactics and logistics, of what you can get and when it will get there, of what you have to hand and who you have by your side. She didn't have it to begin with, but having horrible alien space thingies hurl plasma at your face tends to teach you that fairly fast.
Secondary: White: Of course, being at the top of the heap means you have to have a heap to be on top of, and that means at least a little bit of White being involved in your psychological makeup. Lola's view of the chain of command is that it works because the higher-ups make it work, and that it has to be there in order for anything to function on a logistical level. From chaos comes death, in her view and her experience. XCOM is not a nice place, especially when crossed over with everything from Buffy the Vampire Slayer to Captain Scarlet.
Tertiary: Red: Part of being a good commander in the field, however, is being flexible. If you overplan, you can construct something overcomplicated and that leads to failure and the deaths of good men and women under your command. This kind of lateral thinking is what allows for her to keep fighting and get people out alive even when the plan's gone to hell and the Sectopods are stomping towards you like a drunken stepdad taking off his belt. It needs a level of emotional intelligence and knowledge of morale, and that's a pretty Red characteristic if ever there was one. =] -
Very interesting by
on 2018-03-09 14:44:00 UTC
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I love that both Wobbles and the Notary have White as their primary, but they display it in very different ways.
Wobbles is White like MLP is White. Wants peace, harmony, and happiness.
The Notary is White like the Borg are White. Absolute order is absolutely necessary. In fact, the Notary has the exact same color layout as the Borg, though for different reasons.
The differences between the characters are reinforced by their secondary and tertiary colors, but it all starts with which extreme of White's philosophy they are on. I think you've done an excellent job with these, Scape.
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This is gonna be tricky. by
on 2018-03-09 02:30:00 UTC
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Lessee here...
Thoth: U/R/B. I mean, blue is the primary, that doesn't take any explanation a all. His dubious moral compass and fundamental self-interest make black another obvious choice. However, beneath that most readily observable surface, Thoth has a deep desire for freedom — it's part of what drove him to the PPC to begin with. And while his history has made it rare for him to form bonds (and his relative lack of emoting makes it hard for many to even attempt it) when he does, they go fairly deep. He's willing to go pretty far for something or someone he values.
Tom: R/U/W. Tom tends to run on emotions. He'll do things because he thinks it's right, or funny, or wasn't actually thinking at all but rationalized it later. However, as a person who worked with long chains of abstract logic all day, he's got a lot of blue to his outlook as well: valuing knowledge and self-improvement, and perfection in his work (because the alternative is demons everywhere). Despite all of this, Tom believes in the group over the individual (hard not to, given what the Laundryverse is like), and has a very solid sense of right and wrong beneath everything. -
On Thoth by
on 2018-03-09 02:45:00 UTC
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So, you've got Thoth as U/R/B (U=Blue for those not familiar with MTG shorthand). I like this because when I went through and tried to give a two-color combination to each Legion, the Thousand Sons were U/R. Blue for the obvious knowledge-over-everything mentality. The Red is for that resistance to rules that caused their fall in the first place. So, being that he is a Thousand Son, that is a good starting point for Thoth.
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UR is the standard TS coloration, yes by
on 2018-03-09 13:07:00 UTC
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"Oh look, a massive play undone by a SINGLE MOVE! Only in a children's card game—
...you know what? I play Red/Blue. I am officially not allowed to criticize here."
--TTS!Magnus on Kitten vs Tzeentch
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And that is how I lured Phobos into watching TTS. {= ) (nm) by
on 2018-03-09 14:27:00 UTC
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One of us! One of us! (nm) by
on 2018-03-09 14:32:00 UTC
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I know this game! by
on 2018-03-08 20:52:00 UTC
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Now, let's see how much I remember. {= D Starting with who I've been thinking about the most recently:
Derik: Red/White/Black. You, and he himself, would probably think the White would come first, what with how much he cares about order, protection, justice, and all that good stuff. However, it's his emotions that make him go, and sometimes go too far, which is what Red is all about. And occasionally, the influence of Black makes him pretty dang scary.
Gall: Red again, but this time Red/Green. Green thinks what it has is pretty great, and it can always get bigger and better. If you mess with it, it will unleash the wrath of nature on you. Gall knows she's pretty great, and if you mess with her, she will unleash the wrath of a Monstrous Nightmare on you. Or she'll do whatever because she feels like it, because Red. Life's an adventure, yo! (I understand Red/Green is the color pair of dragons in MTG, so yeah, go figure.)
Nume: Primary Blue, because Blue is all about the mind, knowledge, and memory. Secondary White, because rules, order, and protection. Nume does what he does because he knows he's the smartest man in the room, and he knows he's right, and he doesn't need anybody else's approval, dammit.
Ilraen: Yes, he's Blue. But it's not his primary. Ilraen is actually doing the White/Red thing properly: doing the Right Thing because it is Right, and it Feels Good to Do Good, and you Don't Mess With Family. He's all heart—but with a side of wicked smart that will come up and catch you by surprise if you're not paying attention, which is where the tertiary Blue comes in. Plus he likes tinkering with technology. So, White/Red/Blue.
Jenni: ... I don't even know, to be honest. Like, I'd think White/Green, maybe White/Green/Red, but it's not right. She's not really about the group (Green/White is ALL about the group), she's about individuals and feelings and relationships and family (Red), and being incredibly psychic (Blue) but keeping it in check because morals and rules (White), and basically just making things better (also Blue?). Maybe she's our actual Red/White/Blue character? Phobos, help me out!
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My Agents by
on 2018-03-09 15:12:00 UTC
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Effie Raptor:
Primary: White. Effie is very much a person of order and rules, and working as a part of a greater whole at the cost of one's own personal feelings (given that she was 'born' only a few months ago, she doesn't quite understand how feelings work). She is also very idealistic and adheres strongly to things like the Geneva Convention.
Secondary: Blue. Effie is highly technology-based, given that she's based on a fighter jet. But more than that, she's analytical. She approaches problems like they are puzzles, albeit ones that can often be solved by the application of explosions. She is curious about existence as a whole, and likes to know everything about her surroundings.
Tritary: Colorless. As an anthropomorphized F-22 Raptor, Effie counts as an artifact creature. Artifacts are associated with colorless mana.
Min Ra:
Primary: Red. As would be expected from a citizen of the Fire Nation (long before the militarization seen in the show), Effie is a very passionate person and a free spirit. She's in it to have fun with her friends and set things on fire. Usually at the same time, although not with the same object.
Secondary: White. There's a reason Min is in the PPC- she thinks that Mary Sues are an impurity in the world that must be purged with fire. She definitely believes in the Fire Nation concept of honor, if not to the extent of say, Prince Zuko. Her opinion is that it's choosing to follow rules of her own will that allows her to be truly free, and she is the sort to do the right thing because it's the right thing to do.
Tritary: Black. Min has problems with being left out of things, and is rather ambitious. She can also be very callous towards her enemies and thoughtless about things as a whole, which gives her a hint of Black. -
Artifact Creature! by
on 2018-03-09 17:43:00 UTC
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I think you've got a strong grasp of this. Your descriptions make a lot of sense with the colors you've chosen. Well done.
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Not sure why I replied to Nem by
on 2018-03-09 15:13:00 UTC
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I meant to make this a reply to the main topic.
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I think you've done a good job... by
on 2018-03-08 21:31:00 UTC
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...except with Gall. I really think she's Black before she's Green. She does what she wants, but she's selfish about it. She's a bully, as well. I would put her down as Red-Black-Green.
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Maybe? by
on 2018-03-08 22:11:00 UTC
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She doesn't really care about power, though, in the way that a typical bully does. Might Makes Right, sure, but that's the law of the jungle—that's Green. It's not about controlling others so she feels secure, it's about bopping things that are wrong on the head so that the natural order is restored. The "natural order" here is mainly that Gall Is Awesome, but also extends to the act of Sue-slaying to put canon back to normal. I have just thought of this, but I think it fits. She's mainly doing it because it's fun, but she has instinctively felt that Mary Sues are freaks that need to be put down from Day 1, too.
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Your logic is sound. I stand corrected. (nm) by
on 2018-03-08 22:14:00 UTC
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Hee, I called it! by
on 2018-03-08 21:03:00 UTC
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About Nume's primary being Blue, I mean. I did guess Ilraen would have the colors you picked for him. Gall being red is perfect. I run a dragons deck that I think she'd get a kick out of... Did not guess Black for Derik, though.
As for Jenni... I think Red-White-Blue would fit her pretty well. White's about peace and healing, too, which fits her as a FicPsych nurse. :) -
PPC Agent Analysis by
on 2018-03-08 19:15:00 UTC
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Brightbeard - Brightbeard likes everything to be neat, orderly, and structured. This puts him solidly in White, as does his strong moral compass. He also values tradition, community, and growth, which makes his second color Green. I can't really get a read on a third color, so White-Green will have to work.
Barid - Barid is kind of ruled by his emotions and he's a bit of a force of Chaos. That makes him a good foil to his partner and it also puts him in Red. His methods (poisoning and shadow magic), as well as the fact that he is only in business for himself, makes him Black. If he has a third color, it is probably Blue. He's smarter than he looks and does have a love of maps and exploration. So, I'll go with Red-Black-Blue for Barid.
Decima - So, we've got a Slytherin. That means ambition, and ambition means Black, right? Well, that's definite in there, it is tertiary for her. Her strongest color is White, because she wants systems and order (she once apologized for the state of her room when there was a single sock out of place). Her second color is Green because she is inflexible in her world-view, as seen by her inability to accept how exorcisms work because the process doesn't conform to her views of magic. She has such a hard time with things in the couple of missions she has, because the PPC has given a major blow to her view of the world, and she is slow to adjust to that. White-Green-Black
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First of all, I just want to say... by
on 2018-03-08 18:26:00 UTC
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Thank you so much for making the Red, White, and Blue joke for Cap. That made my day.
So... looking at my characters, I'm starting to realize how many of them are pretty identical when it comes to colors. Most of them fall pretty squarely in the Red-White-Green triad.
The Aviator:
Primary: Red. Ave's made it pretty clear she values her freedom and will be leaving the PPC once there aren't any people left to tie her down. She's hot-headed and emotional, and doesn't always think things through.
Secondary: White. She's loyal to her partner and family and will do whatever it takes to keep them safe.
Tertiary? Eh. If anyone can think of a good reason for one, I'm all ears, but Blue, Black, and Green don't really fit her.
Zeb:
Primary: White. Zeb's a lion, it makes sense he values community. He's self-sacrificing and hates to see others in pain. And he just wants everyone to get along.
Secondary: Green. He knows his place in the universe and he's pretty content to accept it.
Tertiary: Red. Zeb thinks with his heart, not his head, and it shows.
Ix
Primary: Black. Funnily enough, I didn't see this one coming until I got to thinking about it. Ix has long since come to accept that nobody's looking out for her (...well, except Charlotte) and it's up to her to make the most of it with what she's got. She's driven—she put in a lot of hard work to get to where she is—and knows the instant she stumbles, she'll fall right back to the bottom. The world isn't going to be kind to you, so you'd better seize whatever opportunities you can to keep yourself from becoming a target.
Secondary: White. Ix just wants everything to be okay. So although she doesn't believe that will ever be the case, she still tries to make things better where she can.
Tertiary: Red. Despite what she says, she's still in Gryffindor for a reason.
Charlotte:
Primary: Green. Everything happens for a reason, whether you like it or not, so you'd better figure out what to do with what you have. Sure, it doesn't mean she can't complain about it the whole way through, but she's not generally one to fight for change. With one major exception, which leads me to her second color...
Secondary: Red. She (like so many of my characters) once again thinks with her heart instead of her head. She wants something, she wants it now. When she decided she was going to become human for Ix, she went and did it at the first opportunity. When she gets determined about something, she does see it through.
Tertiary: And once again, I fail to think of a third.
Dax:
Primary: Red. He and the Aviator share the same taste for adventure and going out into the world to experience everything it has to offer. He's also, ahem, passionate. He's here to have a good time.
Secondary/Tertiary: White and Green. Dax has a strong sense of justice (He is Chaotic Good) and after being a guard on a skyship for a while, he's got a pretty strong sense of loyalty to whoever he considers his extended family.
Lorson:
Ah, Lorson, thank god you're here to provide a break from the monotony. Well, sort of.
Primary: Red. Lorson values freedom over anything else. He is his own man now, and he takes advantage of that by living life to the fullest and not concerning himself too deeply with the consequences.
Secondary/Tertiary: Black and Blue. It's a dog-eat-dog world out there, and no matter what happens, he plans on surviving no matter the cost. The best way to do this is through knowledge. His mind, more than anything else, is what he considers his best weapon. Lorson strives to be the best he can possibly be. He has an insatiable thirst for knowledge and he's big on the whole technological aspect that usually gets overlooked in Blue's personality.
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Glad you liked it. by
on 2018-03-08 18:37:00 UTC
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Now, about your characters all coming out in the same three colors...that's totally fine. Two characters in the same color combination can be very different. It all depends on the balance of the colors, as well as what aspects of a color a character exhibits.
For example: Batman and Lex Luthor are the same three colors. They are very different characters, though.
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Okay, I'll bite. by
on 2018-03-08 18:46:00 UTC
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What are Batman and Luthor's colors?
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DC Colors by
on 2018-03-08 19:06:00 UTC
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Batman is all about Justice, which is a White ideal. How he goes about getting that Justice (fear and intimidation) is decidedly against the law, which is fairly Black. There is also a fair amount of high-technology and detective work, so I would put him in Blue for a tertiary.
Batman - White-Black-Blue
Lex Luthor is out for his own advancement, no matter the cost or legality, so based in Black. However, he uses the fact that he is a "legitimate businessman", as well as using the systems of justice, to shield himself and his nefarious schemes, which is surprisingly White. He is also a very intelligent, very resourceful man, which is Blue.
Lex Luthor - Black-White-Blue
Bonus: Catwoman is only out for herself and her cats. The world doesn't care about her, so she doesn't care about it. So she's based in Black. However, she is also smart and ridiculously skilled at what she does, and that actually falls under Blue. However, there is also a little part of her that wants to be the good guy, that wants (certain kinds of) bad guys to be brought to justice, and that means White.
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Huh! by
on 2018-03-08 19:14:00 UTC
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I would have pegged Blue as Batman's primary, but what you said makes more sense. Thanks!
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You actually might be right. by
on 2018-03-08 19:16:00 UTC
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It just depends on the version of Batman you are looking at. Some versions are more detective-centric than others, and more Blue because of it.
-Phobos