Subject: You're right; I'm sorry.
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Posted on: 2018-01-23 18:01:00 UTC
I could have found a way to contact you to discuss your part in this; that would have been better, but it didn't occur to me. I'm sorry.
hS
Subject: You're right; I'm sorry.
Author:
Posted on: 2018-01-23 18:01:00 UTC
I could have found a way to contact you to discuss your part in this; that would have been better, but it didn't occur to me. I'm sorry.
hS
The official Constitution has been updated with the Fifth and Sixth Amendments - AKA the Harassment and Discussion Amendments. It also now lists the Chitchat Amendment as rejected, and I've updated the list of signatures too.
Somehow, we managed to keep the whole thing in exactly the same number of Articles (29), though the Sections have increased by two. Given how broad the changes are, it's probably wise to go and give it another read.
hS
I'll fix this and the numbers on Monday.
hS
I also checked over the other Article Number references, and patched a few of them up, too.
hS
But then again, I'm not too good at judging this type of thing. I especially can't predict if I'll end up bringing any of this on my head, so apologies in advance.
Yep. It's decided. I'm not going to partake in the Discord. Hearing about Discord drama on the Board throws me for enough of a loop already.
-Twistey
In terms of the harassment and trolling stuff, what would go too far in a Badfic Games fic and in the interactions between our badficcer alter egos? I'd like to know so I can avoid it next time.
-Twistey
Uh.. yeah. That's part of why I loved July's mission so much. It was just... FUN. I'd forgotten what that was like. And it's something that has definitely influenced my own writing, although it certainly won't be properly joyous.
It's important to remember how to be silly, even if you're not actually writing something goofy.
I could have found a way to contact you to discuss your part in this; that would have been better, but it didn't occur to me. I'm sorry.
hS
And I also have to note that this was exactly the same pattern that led to JulyFlame leaving. We as a community have to learn from that, and it doesn’t feel like we have.
I'm getting the message that this isn't the first time that this sort of drama pattern has happened. If someone can explain, it would be greatly appreciated. I want to make as informed a judgement as I can regarding this.
I am mostly a lurker, I know, but I would also like more info. Especially since this isn't the first time I have seen that name mentioned in relation to a supposed pattern of drama.
No summary would be adequate, and I don't believe rehashing everything would be constructive at this time. I'm not having this turn around into a big blow-out in the other direction. It's not warranted.
If you all really want all the information, we do have an archive. You are free to look through it and see everything in context there.
~Neshomeh
Can I maybe get a link? To the general archives I mean. I would be interested in reading as much of ppc history is available, not just about this.
Uh...
Wow. This. Absolutely this. Thank you, Nesh. I entirely support everything you just said.
Assuming that part of the 'all of you, stop it' was directed at me, I will now stop commenting on that part of the thread. People are perfectly able to look at the situation without my input.
hS
And I am sorry, because I know you're doing the best you can in a crappy position and it's not your fault someone decided you were the one to rope in.
I'm just about fed up, is all, and I have to do the best I can.
~Neshomeh
But as the Constitution makes very clear, the health of the PPC Community depends on people speaking up when they see a problem. I was shown a potential problem; I sought out the rest of the information; I agreed that there was a problem; and I spoke up.
The 'massively warped view' you speak of is my own, so thanks for that.
hS
I don't bedgrudge you for speaking up, hS. However, I do find your read of the situation inaccurate, speaking as someone who was at there for part of it.
I sincerely apologize for offending you if I did so. I know I can speak rashly sometimes, and genuinely didn't mean to insult or hurt you.
As the entirety of the log has been posted already- I can confirm, at least from memory that's how it went down- can someone please point out the Horrible No-Good Drama?
Alright. I'm not gonna say anything on the amendments, or even the event on Discord. I do not have enough caffeine in my system for that. However, I would propose that the relevant text from the 21st of January, or any other day being referenced, be screenshotted and copied so everyone knows exactly what's going on.
Here is what I was given. The editorial comments are not mine.
hS
Thoth's last message was in response to an image (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/177121066823450624/405060401294868483/image.jpg) that was apparently cut out by the copy&paste.
If so, it was never my intent to turn anybody against Iximaz. I know you guys love them; I'd never want to do that. Never. I personally do not like them very much, but... they're your friend, and you're their friends. I would never intentionally try to defame anybody within this community. If you'll see my messages on the chat, I never said anything bad about them- and I never wanted to.