*suddenly a couch appears* Here you go.

Subject: *suddenly a couch appears* Here you go.
Author: twistedwindowpane
Posted on: 2017-10-22 19:18:00 UTC

Man, that's pretty Sueish. The ones from my fanfics don't seem so bad now... If you can get through the cringe enough, I'd love to see the illustrations. Huh, maybe I can help you learn to cope with the cringe. I currently can cope with every bad thing I've written (except for this one robot that I don't like to talk about.)

Of course, mine weren't that over the top but were still Sues nonetheless, because everything came so easy to them. They never had any real conflicts or consequences. It was stupid. I'm trying to think of any specific examples that were obvious Sues, but I can't really. Oh jeez.

...Wait, it seems that my Sues actually became more Sueish over time up until the point where I started actually trying to improve my writing. I had the idea for a story once about a friend and I getting stuck in a fandom and taken in by main characters. I still have a few guilty pleasures and personal tropes I indulge in in my current works that could be Sueish if taken too far, or at least very bad writing. (For one thing, I love being the center of attention, and lots of my stories are inspired by my own personal experiences, so in most of my stories, either the #1 protagonist or a prominent antagonist starts off being based on me. Not only does it open up a potential for wish fulfillment when I think of my creation as myself, but it's also generally very annoying to see a character based on the author play a major part in a story that isn't literally about the author and isn't a fanfiction with the author's 'sona. Especially if the author proudly calls the character not just an insert but an avatar, which is another way of saying "ATTENTION EVERYONE! THIS WHOLE STORY IS A WISH FULFILLMENT AND I SE NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT!". I usually solve this issue by making the former insert much different from me in appearance and personality. I also tend to create another character that is meant to be literally me, and have her sort of hang around in the background or be an Easter egg. There are a few exceptions to this rule, although over time I might become sick of them and turn the inserts into regular non-insert characters. But anyway, enough of that rambling.) Every time I think about a piece of writing I'm working on, I think to myself: Do I need to remove my personal tropes from this work, or would it be okay to leave them in in this situation? If I need to take them out, how can I do it? That's helped me a lot with improving my stories, and as a result, I do believe I've stopped writing Sues... at least, they aren't Sues in the final drafts.

I proofread and revised that last paragraph like 25 times, wow.

-Twistey

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I can't believe I never knew about this place! by Pasty Greens on 2017-10-21 10:45:00 UTC Reply

Hello! For the past few years, I've found strange enjoyment in bad fanfiction. To be specific, I quite like listening to it on YouTube. About four or five days ago, I was googling "Forbiden Fruit" again for God knows what reason and discovered the PPC wiki. The idea of going into a fic and killing the Sues inside is something that I've loved and the fact that the PPC exists is one of the most amazing things I have found. Since then, I have read a potentially alarming amount of the wiki, missions, and I'm currently making my way through the Original Series.
Harry Potter was part of my childhood, but Eragon was what got me really into the fantasy genre. Due to the parts of the internet that I tend to visit, I didn't learn that the Inheritance series is awful until very recently and I have since read the sporkings to try and disillusion myself. My childhood is founded on lies.
I started roleplaying before I knew what I was doing and as a result, the Mary-est of Sues was born. If I ever decide to try work up the guts to write for the PPC, my first order of business is to make my character go back in time and spork herself.

Fandoms of choice include Harry Potter, World of Warcraft (current roleplay medium), the Zamonia books by Walter Moers, Pretty Cure, and most of Inheritance.

Please don't hit me.

Hi newbie by CodeCom on 2017-10-22 11:33:00 UTC Reply

Have a pile of multi-coloured pens.
Hello newbie. by Hardric on 2017-10-22 11:14:00 UTC Reply

All the questions to ask have been asked, so... Have a pot of black-hole coffee and my welcome.
Here, have a gift. by darklordaakmal on 2017-10-22 06:02:00 UTC Reply

A replica of basketball that Kuroko plays. Does not allow you to be invisible, but have fifteen seconds of distractive cuteness when employed, with a minute of cooldown. Use it well. Effect is muted with those possessing Hawk, Eagle, Emperor Eyes, and in some cases, Perfect Copy.

Eragon isn't very good, but if you enjoy, it does not have to wreck you with guilt. In fact, starting from the very bottom allows to soar to the skies, right?
*FOOF* by Thoth on 2017-10-22 02:37:00 UTC Reply

Hey, Newbie!

Welcome to the PPC, you don't have to be insane, but it does help. I'm the resident Other Person With A Pretentious Name, and a fearsome, 8-foot-tall sorcerer serving a sinister god-

((Suuure.))

...Also, I am crazy liar. Pay no attention to the voices. Anyways, nice to see you. Take a Bolter and a flask of Fenrisian Ale (I'd be careful drinking that stuff if I were you), and gather round the fire. Feel free to tell us more about yourself. Or don't.
Welcome aBoard! by SkarmorySilver on 2017-10-22 02:12:00 UTC Reply

Have one of my own shed feathers and a Golden Snitch with a Pokeball engraving!
*very, very lightly slaps you* Eyyyyyyyyy newbie! by twistedwindowpane on 2017-10-22 00:24:00 UTC Reply

Haha! Interesting that you do most on YouTube - guys, this might be a sign that The PPC Channel might be a good prospect to look into after all! (I have a better idea of how it would work now - if anyone wants the explanation, I can give it to them.)

Anyway, hi, I'm Twistey, and I'm not going to judge you at all for liking the Inheritance series! I actually read Eragon and was okay with it, but well, usually I don't read books I don't like and I almost always like any book I read. (Guys, put the knives down! Put the knives down!) My biggest fandom (outside of my own written worlds) would have to be Wolfenstein 3D or anything else made in the 90s by iD Software. I'm a lightly-used-bie, as I usually say, with a few agents-to-be.

About that Mary Sue you made, can you describe her for me? I'm kind of interested to hear about her. Maybe we can compare childhood Sues, that would be fun.

Ah, yes! I almost forgot your newbie gift! Let's see. *rummages through a bag*. Aha! Since Halloween is coming up, I'm going to give you a truckload of fabric and other stuff to make costumes with, as well as a bottomless face paint palette and a shapeshifting wig! I can use a sewing machine, so if you need me to sew something together for whatever costume you end up creating, just ask me! ;)

Nice to meet you, and welcome! I wish you a wonderful career as a PPCer!

-Twistey

Ahh, those dark, dark days. by Pasty Greens on 2017-10-22 03:52:00 UTC Reply

If I get too specific in describing my old Sue, I'll probably unearth a truckload of memories that I've been trying to block out of my brain for the past five years. So, let's see...

She was a night elf death knight, part dragon, part nightsaber, knew draconic, and she wore a lot of awful outfits. There was a point where she was able to get a drop of blood from the dragon queen. She also godmoded a lot, but that I partially blame on my 12-year-old self for not knowing how to RP. I didn't have anyone to tell me what to do, so a lot of my RP learning was just figuring it out by trial and error as I went.

Actually, she originated from an even older fanfiction trilogy that I wrote, so old in fact that it's written on actual paper! Each story took up one spiral notebook and had illustrations. They are hidden at the back of my closet because if I see them, I will scream.
This character prototype was a draenei death knight who united the Alliance and Horde against the Lich King, killed said Lich King, and was redeemed into a half-ish paladin.
In the second story, it takes place some time after the first where the main characters are all half-bred teenagers who mastered the elements and came from Feralas: the blood elf/night elf fire hunter who trained a dragon, the tauren/draenei water shaman who died at the end of the third story, the troll/something wind rogue who I didn't care about, the human/blood elf earth paladin who was the love interest of the hunter, and a god-freaking cat girl from Sholazar Basin. I don't remember what happened in the third story, just that it ended in Wintergrasp and Sylvanas fell off a cliff or something.

I need to go... lie down... on the floor...

*suddenly a couch appears* Here you go. by twistedwindowpane on 2017-10-22 19:18:00 UTC Reply

Man, that's pretty Sueish. The ones from my fanfics don't seem so bad now... If you can get through the cringe enough, I'd love to see the illustrations. Huh, maybe I can help you learn to cope with the cringe. I currently can cope with every bad thing I've written (except for this one robot that I don't like to talk about.)

Of course, mine weren't that over the top but were still Sues nonetheless, because everything came so easy to them. They never had any real conflicts or consequences. It was stupid. I'm trying to think of any specific examples that were obvious Sues, but I can't really. Oh jeez.

...Wait, it seems that my Sues actually became more Sueish over time up until the point where I started actually trying to improve my writing. I had the idea for a story once about a friend and I getting stuck in a fandom and taken in by main characters. I still have a few guilty pleasures and personal tropes I indulge in in my current works that could be Sueish if taken too far, or at least very bad writing. (For one thing, I love being the center of attention, and lots of my stories are inspired by my own personal experiences, so in most of my stories, either the #1 protagonist or a prominent antagonist starts off being based on me. Not only does it open up a potential for wish fulfillment when I think of my creation as myself, but it's also generally very annoying to see a character based on the author play a major part in a story that isn't literally about the author and isn't a fanfiction with the author's 'sona. Especially if the author proudly calls the character not just an insert but an avatar, which is another way of saying "ATTENTION EVERYONE! THIS WHOLE STORY IS A WISH FULFILLMENT AND I SE NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT!". I usually solve this issue by making the former insert much different from me in appearance and personality. I also tend to create another character that is meant to be literally me, and have her sort of hang around in the background or be an Easter egg. There are a few exceptions to this rule, although over time I might become sick of them and turn the inserts into regular non-insert characters. But anyway, enough of that rambling.) Every time I think about a piece of writing I'm working on, I think to myself: Do I need to remove my personal tropes from this work, or would it be okay to leave them in in this situation? If I need to take them out, how can I do it? That's helped me a lot with improving my stories, and as a result, I do believe I've stopped writing Sues... at least, they aren't Sues in the final drafts.

I proofread and revised that last paragraph like 25 times, wow.

-Twistey

Welcome! by TripleDES on 2017-10-21 19:00:00 UTC Reply

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Welcome aboard! by OpinionedAngel on 2017-10-21 18:06:00 UTC Reply

Hullo newbie! Here, have some chocolate and don't worry, we don't bite... hopefully.
Newbie! *glomp* *poke* by Iximaz on 2017-10-21 13:22:00 UTC Reply

Hello, and welcome aBoard! For your newbie gift, take this plate of freshly-made SPaGhetti!

You've already answered all my usual questions save one: Have you read the Constitution?

Also! Alliance or Horde? My heart lies with the Alliance, but my guildies are all on the Horde side, so that's where I spend most of my time now.

Yes, quite! by Pasty Greens on 2017-10-21 22:26:00 UTC Reply

I've read the Constitution, yes. Most of the rules seem like common sense but I'm not surprised if I missed something.
I also finished the entire TIANATDATPPC last night.

And, Alliance. I still lost in most of the Horde cities.

Newbie! *Prepares the punch* by Matt Cipher on 2017-10-21 10:56:00 UTC Reply

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*offers newbie a bowl of fruit punch*

Hullo there! Glad you found our lil' madhouse :D I'm Cipher, the local cheap comic relief. What about you? Pronouns? Favourite mission read so far (let's be honest, it's one of Iximaz's stuff, isn't it? She's amazeblogs! :D)

It's hard to say... by Pasty Greens on 2017-10-21 22:35:00 UTC Reply

Pronounds are she/her.

As for favorite mission, I can't quite decide. It's probably a many-way tie between Cupcakes, Forbiden Fruit, the Rose Potter series, Unholy Lich-Bunnies, Celebrian, and Harry Potter and the Butt Coffee. I actually had to go back and reread that last one when I realized that the Agents were pokemon.

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*spikes the punch with the void*