Subject: I'm not liking this much at all (nm)
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Posted on: 2017-09-18 10:38:00 UTC
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Oh, hey, so that Young Wizards/PJaTO crossover updated... by
on 2017-09-15 02:56:00 UTC
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Does it look any better? Not sure the style of narrating does the crossover any favors still, but at least the author's got a plan (as said in another author's note)?
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Haven't read it yet, but... by
on 2017-09-18 17:32:00 UTC
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...the idea makes me kinda wince. I love Young Wizards, I like PJato somewhat, but I just don't feel like they'd mesh well--what would either universe gain from crossing with the other narrative-wise?
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Dai Stiho, Cousin, and welcome to the PPC! o/ by
on 2017-09-18 19:30:00 UTC
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(Since I haven't greeted you already. |D Consider yourself awarded a model of the Transcendent Pig: never ask it the meaning of life! Also, it may occasionally teleport to wherever (and whenever!) location it finds most amusing.)
And I suspect it's more one of those "I want these characters to meet!" crossovers, rather than one that hashes out the mythologies (or at least, hashes them out believably) - in any case, I suspect all of the main gods in PJatO could be regarded as influenced by the Lone Power, given that Percy has to call them all out on their arrogance by the end of the main series.
But of course, this fic is AU, and that calling out one of those events lost. Convenient, isn't it? -
I'd assume they're like the Powers in Ireland. by
on 2017-09-19 09:20:00 UTC
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In fact, that fits perfectly well - they're Powers who built something (western civilisation, in the case of the Olympians), but then never managed to let go of it.
You look at someone like Artemis, who wanders around by herself with the few people she likes - and you compare her to the Power we meet in A Wizard Abroad, who hangs out by themselves and doesn't like to admit who they are. It's a very similar approach.
Does that mean they're influenced by the Lone One? Well, to the extent that everything is, sure. But I think it's a mistake to project Michael onto all the Powers. The One's Champion is a very distinct individual, and is predisposed to a black-and-white worldview. We've barely met any other Powers (that I remember, anywise), but there's no reason to assume they're as... well, angelic, even if in the fire-and-brimstone sense, as the Champion.
Interestingly, the wiki identifies Michael with both Athena and Thor (and Prometheus, who has a role in one of the PJ series, I think). Having multiple avatars of the same Power bobbing around could make for a very interesting story - though I'm going to take a stab in the dark that this one does nothing of the sort.
[Reads to check]
... wow. That is a pretty textbook Gary-Stu. I gave up at the point where Artemis wouldn't talk to him until he swore not to hurt her.
Anyway, yeah, no. Doesn't look like it's bothered to consider the possibilities at all. I'm not honestly sure the author understands what the Lone Power actually did...
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/slaps self by
on 2017-09-19 12:37:00 UTC
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Ones that are in-between, I mean. Grah.
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Ahh. by
on 2017-09-19 12:37:00 UTC
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My thinking was going in that direction, but hadn't yet gotten there. |D We never do hear much from the Powers that aren't in-between the Lone Power and Winged Defender, morality-wise.
(Digging through that wiki is fun, btw. Much useful for worldbuilding! ... Considering DD writes it herself. =P)
Someone should probably contact the author/find out who the beta is, then. Someone needs some explanation, I expect... -
Dai Stiho, Cousin, and gratitude! by
on 2017-09-18 23:09:00 UTC
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One exception to the Pantheon being influenced by the Lone Power that I'd argue--Hestia. She never really does much, but when she does, she seems to try to do right, without letting ego get in the way.
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Shoot, link didn't work. :/ by
on 2017-09-19 00:25:00 UTC
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Copy-paste the non-discyourwebapps part and it should work.
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True! by
on 2017-09-19 00:24:00 UTC
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There's a reason she's The Last Olympian...
How much Young Wizards have you read, btw? There's a bunch of books available on DD's site. -
Up until Wizards at War... by
on 2017-09-19 01:31:00 UTC
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...and I didn't realize there were any others. XD
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Glad to enlighten you. ;) by
on 2017-09-19 03:16:00 UTC
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We're up to ten full novels, now, and a whole bunch of supplementaries! And if you click around on DD's tumblr, you'll find other goodies!
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Highlights include... by
on 2017-09-16 01:06:00 UTC
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-A questionable understanding of how the pantheons could mix (and redundant referencing of "Powers That Be" when just "Powers" makes things less cluttered).
-Seemingly casting Artemis as the villain??? Or at least the most antagonistic of the gods the protagonist meets.
-Time travel??? With no indication of the perspective switches from past to future!Alex.
-Unnecessarly italicization in use of The Speech (and continuous dropping of the The there, as well) when talking with inanimate objects. The whole scenes end up italicized.
-Apparently the whole fic's plot is about an AU where Percy dies on his first quest (I wasn't quite sure where the author was specifying that things screwed up, but I'm not as much a canon expert on Percy Jackson these days, so. =P), and all the gods are at war with each other. So presumably Alex's Ordeal is about resolving all of that. Not necessarily a charge, but at least there's context.
-Oh, and Alex using a spell to siphon off Artemis' power so she won't be able to kill him (temporarily). I'm not sure if this is actually impossible or if it's just rubbing me the wrong way.
-And then, while Alex has no godly parents, there's a conversation where the gods collectively decide he's Artemis' bastard son and make her deal with it (narration/Alex indicates that they're being ridiculous, but see that first bulletpoint up there on this too).
On the one hand, he looks to have a beta. On the other hand... well. -
I'm not liking this much at all (nm) by
on 2017-09-18 10:38:00 UTC
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