Subject: "Your general intention was and is clear enough."
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Posted on: 2017-08-03 12:56:00 UTC

"But even ignoring all details, like who exactly should be considered a Beytah of the Riding of Sittorese, or whether the Beytahs are truly representative of the Riders, only you and Baron Huinesoron are in favor of letting the Riding have a say in the council, while Baron Neshomeh and Baron PC clearly said no to any kind of representation other than through Barons who hold lands in the Riding."

The hermit moved uneasily in his armchair. "In the case of Wechi, I’m afraid the details matter. Although I would appreciate to hear more voices in the council, I don’t see how what has been said could be twisted into a majority for one specific way of letting Wechi have a say in the Council." He sighed reluctantly. "Anyway, the subject has been closed."

((Actually, you and Neshomeh probably supported Huinesorons original proposition, which wasn’t clear itself, but probably meant "one vote for Protector Tomash, one vote for each Mord, one vote for each representative of the archivists of Wechi, and one vote for each Beytah of the Riding who bothers to show up at the Council" ...

*** Thinking very hard *** Oh! Okay, I’m going to finish the intended argument first.

So, concerning the details, you and Neshomeh may, much to Baron Neshohmeh’s dismay, have outvoted Baron Huinesoron, who was tricked into saying that the delegates of Wechi should only get one collective vote for the nation they represent. You may also have outvoted Baron PC, who spoke against any form of representation for Wechi other than through Baron Neshomeh. But saying that you two outvoted both of them, because your opinions match and theirs don’t, would still be a stretch, and the keeper of the records won’t go there.

As long as we don’t agree that in-universe, everybody who took residence in Wechi is an archivist, making the archivists represent Wechi would collide with Wechi’s pure democracy, and supporting this would be OOC for Hieronymus the hermit. Also, since Baron Neshomeh only voted "yes" for domestic political reasons, by sabotaging Huinesoron’s attempt to expand the council further while in-character advocating more democracy, the archivist’s apprentice stealthily fulfills his master’s secret wish.

Only while typing this, I realized that I didn’t pay sufficient attention to the details. "Let the archivists of Wechi send their representatives" doesn’t actually require said representatives to be acknowledged Archivists. If I hadn’t manipulated Huinesoron, we would have a vote of three to one, and any denizen of Wechi could try to claim that they, by the Common Rule of Non-objection, are representatives of the archivists of Wechi .

Could I still tweak this, so that you and Neshomeh implicitly supported any more detailed specifications Huinesoron came up with only after you spoke? I guess it’s too late, and it doesn’t matter anyway. There is nobody else in sight who might have tried to speak for Wechi, and not being allowed to vote never stopped me.

HG))

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