1/ As you may have noticed, Mort and Elanor didn't kill 'Yahweh God'. They killed his frankly bizarre Mary-Sue companion, which prompted a rather dramatic return to in-character-ness.

2/ The reason 'barely anyone' - in fact, no-one - does missions in religion-based fandoms is because we've banned it, because it's incredibly hard to do right, and liable to be wildly offensive. This mission predates that discussion, and was in fact the specific trigger for the discussion (although no-one, to my recollection, had a specific problem with this mission). So your explanation for why no-one kills those badfics is... inaccurate, shall we say. It's not about shoving deities into volcanos - it's about all the little ways such a mission could cause offense and slip into disrespect.

hS

Since I should really contribute, having started all this in the first place...

1. Let's not get too carried away. After all, the main thing I keep repeating is that this thing is not a big deal. So let's not make renaming it a big deal. If it seems like a good idea, fine, but if it's going to be more trouble than it's worth, I think it's safe to just clarify the article and move on.

2. With regards to clarifying the article, I think a close reading of the relevant bits of TOS would be an extremely good thing to do first, since that's the origin and ultimate basis for the concept(s) we're supposed to be describing. Also, references on the pages, so future PPCers don't have to do the work of tracking down the relevant bits all over again.

3. We shouldn't neglect influential non-mission materials such as the original description of Anti-Lustin™, which is based on modified dwarf blood proteins. (OTOH, what with the increase in Dwarf-Sues since The Hobbit, perhaps that coveted Dwarven resistance to Sue-induced lust is no longer reliable and enterprising biochemists should be considering alternatives before the agents taking the drug start to lose it—perhaps unpredictably, at times when it would be the most hilarious....) "Suedom" also leans heavily on the idea that Gimli and Éowyn can fight off Suefluence and thus are able to aid Kate and Kira on their quest.

4. Never forget that out-of-universe, this is all for the lulz and not everything has to make perfect logical sense and fit into neat little boxes. The wiki is mainly there to describe the madness and help to navigate it, not to make it fit some kind of Universal Theory of the PPC. It's perfectly fine for Dwarves to be resistant to Suefluence because it was a running joke once. It's also perfectly fine for present writers to ignore that entirely if it's funnier to show Thorin Oakenshield going googly-eyed at Thorina Ramsbuttsdotter. The PPC has no logic. The PPC needs no logic.

If I seem to be contradicting myself, it's only because I love logical sense and neat little boxes exactly as much as I love the PPC's in-jokes and random silliness, and I don't have a problem with paradoxes. {= )

~Neshomeh

The first group, often oldbies, are LotR fans, generally into fantasy literature, tend to get things like Mercedes Lackey and Discworld and Diana Wynne Jones and Anne McCaffrey. I know I've felt left behind by the moving away from those fandoms before, and, though this is probably partly my own thin-skinned-ness, I've occasionally felt slighted by the way people react to LotR fannishness and high fantasy enthusiasm by seemingly putting it down as snobbery.

The second group I'd call middlebies, though that's an oversimplification and not entirely correct for other reasons. I'd say Miah's post here captures that pretty well. People, in short, who are neither old fantasy literature enthusiasts, nor in touch with the gamer and anime fans who seem to be our third group.

...er, the third group isn't exactly newbies, but I don't have a better name. I'd characterize this group as being more into newer fandoms, fandoms that are integral to their experiences as... er, fans, as LotR and Discworld and Redwall were to others of us. The ones that stand out to me in immediate memory are Halo, Bionicle, Hetalia... er, and others. I may think of more at some point, but you guys probably know what I mean.

There is a looooot of overlap here - I'm not thinking these are exclusive groups! That's just the simplest way of generalizing the "generations" in the community that I can think of.

That feeling was most prominent in the era - a few years back now - where every mission, badfic, or discussion seemed to be either:

a) Araeph doing Pirates of the Caribbean

b) Laburnum doing Redwall

c) Or about a dozen people doing various anime shows.

I seem to recall actually being told that people weren't interested in LotR... and Kaitlyn says that period is when-and-why she stopped posting.

However, I have no problem with diversity. And to your 'try to do something' I would add an important point: it's not enough to do something once. If you write one The Kraken-Knights of Wintertide mission, people will go 'meh, I've never heard of KKW'. If you write a series - and write them in such a way that people get a feel for the canon by reading your missions - you end up with readers and possible converts. Most of my Harry Potter knowledge comes from missions, for example.

hS

PS: Sadly, no, The Kraken-Knights of Wintertide is not a real thing. Maybe for NaNo 2015... ~hS

PPS: I haven't read Thomas Covenant for a very good reason - I was gifted a single-volume work by the same author (specifically Mordant's Need) and really, really didn't like Donaldson's writing style. Some of the comments on Wikipedia suggest the same would hold true in his more famous work. ~hS

that this must be read in the voice of Evil Robot Santa to achieve even close to maximum effect.

Also, I use energy weapons, I don't know what you're going on about. No one plus two plus one plus one versus one plus two plus two plus one when you're dealing with a plasma launcher. Also, no risk of the chandelier falling on Colonel Mustard, or anywhere near him. He doesn't even need to be in the building.

Wait! You are trying to distract me! But is the reference to the movie Clue telling me that I have a clue, telling me to get a clue, or simply an attempt to change the subject from the potential plans that may or may not have been found out? Or is it another red herring, even redder than the previous herrings? Possibly even a burgundy herring!