Look, I get it. I can tell you hate Discovery, and I can tell why. I understand how frustrating it is to have a piece of media in a franchise you love flip off everything you love about said franchise, and I especially sympathize as a fellow Trekkie (I have similar issues with Star Trek Into Darkness). But maybe you could also focus on things you love for a change? I dislike Discovery myself, but you've been pretty... insistent about airing your hatred for it. I swear I'm not trying to dismiss your feelings or put mine first, but hatred can be exhausting. Why don't you start discussions about stuff you love, too? We're all here to have fun, after all.

I'm not sure why you posted this, though. The video is fine for what it is, but I'm pretty sure we all get that you hate Discovery. If you're trying to persuade us to hate it, too, I'm here to advise you that telling us you hate it over and over is not the same as persuasive argument or critique. No, not even with cute scatological puns on the name. Impassioned ranting is fine for an agent in a mission, where the hyperbole is played for humor, but not so effective in discourse where you want people to take you seriously.

Personally, when I want critique of Star Trek and other sci-fi with a humorous, thoughtful, and balanced perspective, I turn to SF Debris. I have now watched his reviews of each episode of Discovery. I think he does a good job giving it a fair shake, but the plotholes and characterization issues are pretty massive, and it shows. He doesn't even outright state the problems a lot of the time, but it's clear nonetheless. His frustration is palpable by the end of the season, starting about when he finally breaks down and rips on the Spore Drive.

It makes me sad. The way he presents it, it seems as though they had characters and ideas that could have worked if only they'd given them a little more TLC, and they just didn't. Which sucks.

Sigh. I mean, really, is it so much to ask for a Star Trek project to be helmed by people who actually like Star Trek? Really?

~Neshomeh

If it's about being angry, and the solution is not "Kill the person who made me this upset!!!"

Then it's not worth engaging with.

That's my feel on all this - that, and I have friends who like Discovery (both tentatively/specific bits, and all-out), and what should I tell them, that they're bad people for liking it?