Criminals!

Subject: Criminals!
Author: Constellation
Posted on: 2012-09-15 10:01:00 UTC

I'm afraid I don't know much about some British shows like Rosie and Jim (but I think I've heard of An Unearthly Child) - I consider myself somewhat British-obsessed, but am still a bit far from wider knowledge.

But oh, this! Miss Marple and Hercule Poirot! Dear, I want this to happen so much. Maybe I could borrow TARDIS and go convince Agatha Christie write a legal crossover book where they meet... *goes around rambling about murder mystery vs fantasy/scifi mix-ups*

Morse and Linley reminded me of how in Kommissar Rex, one actor played a small villain in the early episodes, and some seasons later became Rex's partner. With a different character of course, but it was enough to cause a bunchload of cheering and speculation and suspicion and fangirl squeals.

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A very canon crossover by Constellation on 2012-09-14 22:51:00 UTC Reply

I may be overreacting as such (and is it even in topic or should be OT?), but this caught my attention and won't leave me, so I have to blabber about it everywhere.

As I was watching Heartbeat today (lovely series, really), I became very puzzled when I saw TARDIS. That's right, a TARDIS. Well, the episode WAS about messing with people's minds, and David is known for being silly, but... let me explain what happened.

David went to work on a construction site that he had to clean up. A police box was standing in the mess, so he decided to take this first and loaded it onto his car/truck/lorry/thing and then went to have lunch break. When he returned, it had disappeared. Very well. But after he had taken off a bunch of things and came back for second load, it was back, in the middle of the mess.
The series, as some may know, takes place at sixties or so when police boxes were common, but I don't think somebody would just leave one in a pile of construction junk. And normal ones don't disappear either.

We don't see it again in the episode (except by mentioning that David has been seeing police boxes), but it was already stuck in my head. TARDIS. In Heartbeat. An episode filmed in 2003 about some British small town in 1960s or so.

So... Am I overreacting as a newbie Whovian or did BBC actually play a trick on us the audience by creating a canon crossover? :)

Another canon crossover by the Irish Samurai on 2012-09-15 12:32:00 UTC Reply

Battlestar Galactica/Firefly

Yup, that's right. At the begining of the BSG miniseries, when Laura Roslin is being given the bad news, there are a few ships that fly past in the background, and one of them is clearly a Firefly class transport ship.

So Mal and the crew may well have been on Caprica just before everything kicked off.

Wouldn't /that/ be fun? by Huinesoron on 2012-09-15 12:53:00 UTC Reply

They'd fit right in, too... although I dread to imagine Kaylee's reaction on being told she needs to fit a jump drive into Serenity. :P

hS

Canon Crossovers That Ought To Happen by Huinesoron on 2012-09-15 09:16:00 UTC Reply

(I agree that that sounds like a sneaky crossover... and, remember, An Unearthly Child started off way back in '63 with the TARDIS in a junkyard... but I'm going to take your thread and run away a bit with it)

I've always thought that there should be more of these types of crossovers in shows that merit it. The one I would desperately love to see is a Marple story where the little old lady goes about her business, and there's a murder, and the police show up... led by Chief Inspector Japp. And then there's a knock at the door and this funny little Belgian man shows up... (But of course that would require way too many things to happen, including the writing of a non-Christie story for those two series', so ah well)

I'm also convinced, slipping into British young-children's television, that Rosie from Rosie and Jim (very old show now, about the titular two ragdolls on a canal boat) has moved on and is now the star of Everything's Rosie (still with ragdoll hair attached by a button)... but they're on totally different channels and surely no TV producer could get away with that...?

And, less canonically, it's always amusing when actors show up in other shows of the same type. I remember one episode of (the murder mystery) Morse where the culprit turned out to be the star of (the murder mystery) Inspector Linley... looking, of course, exactly the same, since his own show post-dates the Morse episode.

Point? No point here, just ramble.

hS

Criminals! by Constellation on 2012-09-15 10:01:00 UTC Reply

I'm afraid I don't know much about some British shows like Rosie and Jim (but I think I've heard of An Unearthly Child) - I consider myself somewhat British-obsessed, but am still a bit far from wider knowledge.

But oh, this! Miss Marple and Hercule Poirot! Dear, I want this to happen so much. Maybe I could borrow TARDIS and go convince Agatha Christie write a legal crossover book where they meet... *goes around rambling about murder mystery vs fantasy/scifi mix-ups*

Morse and Linley reminded me of how in Kommissar Rex, one actor played a small villain in the early episodes, and some seasons later became Rex's partner. With a different character of course, but it was enough to cause a bunchload of cheering and speculation and suspicion and fangirl squeals.

Marple AND Poirot? by Riese on 2012-09-15 19:26:00 UTC Reply

Good lord, there would never be crime again! All the crooks would be terrified of being caught!

...hmm...If we're bringing a TARDIS into it, I'd like to whisk Ms. Christie away and introduce her to Sir Arthur. Anything those two co-authored would be nothing short of spectacular.

How do I know that? Deduction.

Marple AND Poirot AND Holmes by Constellation on 2012-09-16 12:07:00 UTC Reply

This is the most horrible dream team ever. :P Two men with super high egos that are 100% percent sure in their abilities, and one nice old lady that tries to calm them down.

... |OT| that, for the oddest reason, sounds like me and my two best guy friends, except that I'm younger than them, not older. |/OT|

And yes, DO introduce Sir Arthur and Dame Agatha. It'd be absolutely lovely (and spectacular), I believe.

Or, depending on the Marple... by Huinesoron on 2012-09-16 13:00:00 UTC Reply

... one 'nice' old lady who shamelessly manipulates them into doing exactly what she wants them to do.

hS

I haven't read Poirot in ages. by Lily Winterwood on 2012-09-16 19:12:00 UTC Reply

Now I'll have to familiarise myself with him and Marple lest the crossover plotbunnies eat my brain.

Don't forget David Suchet! by Constellation on 2012-09-17 21:05:00 UTC Reply

Adaptions may or may not work out well, but David Suchet's portrayal of Poirot is incredibly charming and probably closest to the canon you can get with this funny Belgian. Highly recommended watching. :)

Are we forgetting... by Lily Winterwood on 2012-09-15 15:57:00 UTC Reply

That Benedict Cumberbatch, star of BBC Sherlock, was in an episode of Marple?
And in his radio series Cabin Pressure, he said the "eliminating the impossible" line as well. He didn't want to be called Sherlock Holmes on Cabin Pressure, so they called him Miss Marple instead.
(Okay, that could just be me and too much time with Ben's work, yeah)

Another freaky Sherlock actor coincidence is how the actor for Sebastian Wilkes in the Blind Banker actually played a university classmate of Benedict's in... Hawking, I believe, and he quipped in BLIN that he and Sherlock were at university together. (That's more continuity than a single episode of Glee.)

And actually, Wholock has happened in tie-in book form, where the Doctor consulted ACD!Sherlock Holmes. Professor Challenger may or may not have made an appearance (or that could be another Holmesian, er, expanded universe book).

I've just remembered... by Huinesoron on 2012-09-15 17:27:00 UTC Reply

... that Paul McGann, the Eighth Doctor, was in a Poirot, too... so does that give us Miss Wholocking?

hS

Bah. by Huinesoron on 2012-09-15 17:27:00 UTC Reply

Miss Hercwholocking, rather. Missed one out.

hS, ruining his own jokes

Oh, it's pretty obscure. by Huinesoron on 2012-09-15 10:58:00 UTC Reply

Like I say, children's TV from at least 20 years ago - possibly twice that, if the ones I watched were reruns. (Unearthly Child, of course, is the first episode ever of Doctor Who - my inconsistant italicisation may have obscured that).

It should happen! And there's no reason they can't shoehorn one into the other - I'm pretty sure a bunch of Poirot episodes had Hastings thrown in where he wasn't - and I actually recall one non-Poirot Christie book having him shoved in...

It's the sort of thing that used to happen quite a lot before the Internet. Probably the most surreal example is the Gallifreyan policeman somewhere in the Fifth Doctor's era... who was played by Colin Baker, the Sixth Doctor. Watching Six shoving Five in prison was really weird... but probably no-one even noticed at the time (well, you know what I mean :P)

hS

You know, Moffat did say that if he had a blank cheque by Lily Winterwood on 2012-09-15 07:54:00 UTC Reply

...he would make Wholock canon (that'd be Doctor Who and Sherlock, btw).

So I wouldn't be surprised if this is a ninja Who crossover. :'D There's already so many jokes about Wholock already happening by having Lestrade's actor cameo in a DW episode (even the Doctor Who tumblr is joking about Lestrade finally finding his division).

Dinosaurs! by Constellation on 2012-09-15 09:51:00 UTC Reply

Yes, Lestrade has found his division. It's dinosaurs.

But when some people's headcanon is that Anderson is a dinosaur... it'd mean that Anderson is Lestrade's division. *madly giggling Molstrade shipper* It'd make a good crackfic, though...

Ninja Who Ninja Who Ninja Who yes *empty happy rambling*
I'll get my bets in now... by Huinesoron on 2012-09-15 09:04:00 UTC Reply

... that they'll do it for the next Children In Need/Comic Relief special.

Because that would be so awesome.

(And on a practical note, the fact that Moffat is able to convince his actors to work on both shows makes it even marginally plausible...)

hS

Wholock VS Superwholock by Constellation on 2012-09-15 09:55:00 UTC Reply

They could also make Superwholock, though it could be a tad bit harder with Moffat NOT being a producer of Supernatural.

Now, now, if they would team up Supernatural and LOST, that'd be plausible too. Mark Pellegrino - from god-something Jacob to the devil Lucifer. Also, let's throw in some Dexter, I remember him playing there too.

Wait.
...
Yup, new headcanon forming. ^_^

There was a subtle crossover in Lost . . . by doctorlit on 2012-09-16 06:25:00 UTC Reply

Henry Gale crashed on the island in a weather balloon sponsered by Nozz-A-La Cola, a company from Stephen King's Dark Tower novels. Since The Dark Tower uses inter-world travel as a heavy theme, the implication seems to be that Gale lifted off in a version of Earth closish to the Dark Tower and found an aerial version of the highways in hiding (which connect alternate universes). He then wound up in the Lost universe, crashed on the island, and either died in the crash or was killed by Ben Linus.

Who knows? by Riese on 2012-09-14 23:13:00 UTC Reply

Could be canon crossover. In fairness, Doctor Who technically takes place across ALL of space and time and ALL realities, so the potential's certainly there.