You have a Phantom book vs. musical salt mine and you've never told me?

Subject: You have a Phantom book vs. musical salt mine and you've never told me?
Author: SunAndMoon
Posted on: 2022-01-19 14:42:17 UTC

I thought we were friends. :P

(Then again, I can't recall ever having told you I like PotO, probably because I got harassed so much for shipping Raoul/Christine in my early Internet days that I've been terrified to mention it to anyone ever since. So it's my fault.)

Seriously, though, I'm always up for Phantom adaptation salt. Unless you're talking about the 1925 silent film, because that was excellent.

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Introduction before I forget by RippleStarShards on 2022-01-18 04:03:33 UTC Introduction Reply

Hello there! I'm RippleStarShards, but I mainly go by Kat, so please refer to me as any variation of that. I'm still relatively new to the PPC, and am really excited to join. I haven't read the Original Series or any spinoff yet, mainly because I'm still trying to find a fandom I'm in or used to be in that has sporked fics. I HAVE read the Constitution though, so if I break a rule, just assume I either missed it somehow or skimmed it due to being sleep deprived.

I also happen to inhabit the Circle of Lemmings, and can provide a healthy amount of badfics from it, as well as Sues to slay. I happened upon the PPC while browsing TVTropes, and after reading a bit of the Wiki and going hysterical over the incident involving Agent Len (may he rest in pieces), I decided to join the community! If there's anything else I should do, please direct me to it because I'm sleep deprived and pants with directions. :D

A Late Welcome! by Midnight on 2022-01-21 02:40:27 UTC Reply

Have a mini snek! They come with hats!
Hi there! by SunAndMoon on 2022-01-19 14:34:47 UTC Reply

Have a stuffed Minotaur!
yoooo hi! by Vioven on 2022-01-19 10:31:38 UTC Reply

Hi! Fellow newbie-ish person here, welcome! Take a stuffed toy of a generic animal :) Hope ya like it here :D
A much belated welcome, by K. n. Shirayuki on 2022-01-19 03:52:47 UTC Reply

But feel free to have plenty of crabs 🦀🦀🦀
Greetings from a fellow newbie! by AstralCat on 2022-01-18 23:05:34 UTC Reply

Hi! I'm AstralCat! I also am a Troper, plus a Redditor (that's where I get my slightly insane sense of humor from).

Nice to meetcha, have a gerbil with Groucho Marx glasses!
Hello! Have a funky hat. by strawberrybanana on 2022-01-18 22:10:32 UTC Reply

I'm a newbie too! I will say that even though I'm not very well-versed in LOTR I read the Original Series and got some laughs out of it. It's pretty great, even with my somewhat pitiful recollections of just the movies. Welcome welcome!
Hiya by hidaney on 2022-01-18 17:42:00 UTC Reply

I’m more active on the Discord than here, but I pop in from time to time. Have a rainbow trout, since I’m listening to Far Cry music right now.
Welcome! by Cicada on 2022-01-18 17:21:31 UTC Reply

Good to meetcha! I saw you like Warriors, I also have very fond memories of those books. I had OC cats, OC clans, the whole thing.
Hello! by Kittyauthor on 2022-01-18 12:56:08 UTC Reply

I'm Kittyauthor! It's nice to meet you! Here's a can of sillystring!
Hiyo! by Lily Winterwood on 2022-01-18 09:56:10 UTC Reply

Welcome to the Board! I would give you lemming repellent, but you come from the Circle, so I assume you already have some. In which case, please have a graduated cylinder!

I note you like Victorian literature. I think... Agents Kelok and Unger tackled some ACD!Sherlock Holmes. My agents handled BBC Sherlock mission back in the day when the show was still considered good. So I'd definitely recommend the TOS and then maybe just... checking the Killed Badfic section of the Wiki to see if any of your fandoms have missions?

Again, hi!

:R by RippleStarShards on 2022-01-18 15:48:56 UTC Reply

Surprisingly, I have yet to read Sherlock Holmes. I dunno, I was always drawn more to the gothic stuff than typical mystery. That doesn't mean I don't like it at all! There are some mysteries I do like, but, well, I typically like the creepy things more. Also thank you for the graduated cylinder, yes I do have lemming repellent because the Sues get WILD over there when it comes to what they do.

I actually read through the Killed Badfic list last night! I'm still surprised at what I saw... reading through the mission regarding that one Death Note ripoff (y'know, the wish granting book) made me wish Bleeprin was real (in a good way)-

Welcome! by Oculus on 2022-01-18 05:21:43 UTC Reply

Hi! Nice to meet you, Kat. I'm Oculus (just Oc to friends), your friendly neighbourhood peddler of terrible literature and scary stories. For your newbie gift, have a lucky penny!

And for the record, generally speaking you can read spinoffs for fandoms you're not in, because my experience is that PPC authors are good at making their missions easy to follow even for those who are in different fandom circles. I read The Original Series without knowing much about Lord of the Rings, and it was so fun I decided to check out the Board. Three years later, here I am. Reading The Original Series is a good way to get some context about how this setting works. The PPC's methods have changed a lot throughout the years ("no comments about authors during a mission or a sporking" and "no RPF missions" are two important rules we've agreed on since then), but that series is still the foundation it's built on. So I'm not saying "read it or else", but you might still find it fun even if you're not really into LotR.

Anyway, yeah, glad to have you here! What fandoms are you in?

Nice to meetcha, Oculus! by RippleStarShards on 2022-01-18 05:31:43 UTC Reply

I have plans. I just read one spinoff regarding a Kirby Sue and went hysterical when Agent Backslash screamed about the awful nicknames the Suethor gave Meta Knight.

As for my fandoms, I'm in the Kirby fandom as one of my mainstream fandoms. In terms of other fandoms, when it comes to other mainstream stuff, I like Danganronpa, and used to be a huge fan of Warrior Cats back in the day, still kinda enjoy it. In terms of the more obscure stuff, I enjoy Trauma Center, Slime Rancher, and Madness Combat. I have a habit of finding very niche things.

Oh, also I'm a huge fan of Victorian Gothic literature. I'm talking Frankenstein, Edgar Allen Poe, Dracula, Jekyll and Hyde, that kinda stuff. I LOVE that stuff and need to ramble about it.

...ok maybe i just need to ramble about jekyll and hyde and also scream because of the sheer amount of hyde fangirls i've seen-

Noice! by Oculus on 2022-01-18 19:10:39 UTC Reply

Hey, a fellow Gothic lit fan! Nice to find someone else who's interested in that kind of stuff. I literally grew up with Edgar Allan Poe stories (been reading him since I was, like, 13), but yeah, Dracula is also amazing. And Northanger Abbey is the greatest Gothic novel ever written. :P Also Phantom of the Opera is a huuuge favorite of mine, right from my childhood (I super wasn't supposed to read Gothic lit when I was ten, but I never let that stop me). If you don't mind me screeching about what has been done to the Phantom in pop culture while you screech about Hyde, I think we'll get along.

Also re: what you said to Lily about Sherlock Holmes, I actually think you'd like Hound of the Baskervilles if you haven't read it yet. No spoilers, but it's actually pretty darn scary for a detective novel. Borderline Gothic literature, I'd say.

JUSTICE FOR GOTHIC LITERATURE by RippleStarShards on 2022-01-18 19:15:06 UTC Reply

Yes I would love to screech with you. I've been wanting to check out Phantom of the Opera but I could only assume by the Phantom simps out there that it's been utterly destroyed. Let's screech together.

I first read Poe work last year in English class, we read Tell-Tale Heart fo our short stories unit and loved it.

Thank you for the book recommendation! I can't wait to expand my library! Glod knows I need it... :D

(loud pterodactyl screech) by Oculus on 2022-01-18 19:22:32 UTC Reply

Actually, the original Phantom novel is a pretty solid work of Gothic literature with some absolutely amazing imagery (ghosts playing the violin in snow-covered graveyards, that scene gets me every time). The musical is also good, but I've got an entire salt mine about the way it overshadowed the book. The novel is also a bit over-the-top in places, but if you're able to view it as an opera in book form, it's actually a real thrill to read. If you do check it out, I hope you'll enjoy it, and the same goes for the Hound. :)

You have a Phantom book vs. musical salt mine and you've never told me? by SunAndMoon on 2022-01-19 14:42:17 UTC Reply

I thought we were friends. :P

(Then again, I can't recall ever having told you I like PotO, probably because I got harassed so much for shipping Raoul/Christine in my early Internet days that I've been terrified to mention it to anyone ever since. So it's my fault.)

Seriously, though, I'm always up for Phantom adaptation salt. Unless you're talking about the 1925 silent film, because that was excellent.

Have any of you guys read Girls Next Door? by Lily Winterwood on 2022-01-20 05:44:26 UTC Reply

It's a webcomic by Pika, who used to be involved in some degree here with the Board. It's about Christine from PotO and Sarah from Labyrinth as roommates (and Jareth and Erik are also roommates, downstairs :P) There's also lots of cameos from other fictional characters! It's a joy to read.

If you haven't, I second this recommendation! by Neshomeh on 2022-01-20 15:21:28 UTC Reply

And I have a link to the GND gallery on DeviantART, too!

Also, hello and welcome, RippleStarShards! I also like Jekyll & Hyde and PotO, but I entered both fandoms via the musicals, so I suspect I'm a bit less salty about them. That said, I grew out of being a total Phantom simp years ago (book!Christine is too good for him and Raoul, IMO), the 2004 PotO movie was a travesty (don't even want to talk about Love Never Dies), the common popular-media portrayals of Hyde as a Hulk-like monstrosity make me want to tear my hair out, and I retch at the thought of shipping him in any form. I think we'll get along just fine. ^_~

If you'll forgive me for plugging myself, one of my agents is a Gerry!Phantom expy (sort of; it's complicated), and I have written a couple missions in the PotO fandom. If you read them, I'd love to hear your thoughts. ^_^

Meanwhile, have some freshly baked Canon Cookies! They're loaded with chocolate chips and canony goodness.

~Neshomeh

Thank you for the Canon Cookies! :3 by RippleStarShards on 2022-01-21 02:58:57 UTC Reply

I can already tell we'll get along great! Yeah, I got into the book via the musical as well, but after I read the book, I was kinda miffed at Hyde's portrayal in said musical. Plus the romance subplots were more than necessary and I'm salty about it as an asexual. -w-

I'll have to check em out after I read PotO! Sounds like a fun read! Thank you for the warm welcome! :)

Haha, I can understand that. by Neshomeh on 2022-01-21 15:39:51 UTC Edited Reply

I'm gray-ace myself. {= ) I think the relationships in the musical don't bug me, though, because the one with Emma (Jekyll's fiancee) is a pretty decent one, with respect and support between them and not just sap; and the thing with Hyde and Lucy is 100% as messed up and horrible as it should be. And I imagine there was probably pressure to have female roles in the show, which is a good thing! Though I will say Emma is fairly useless as a character, IIRC; she doesn't actively move the plot, she's just kinda there until they drop the bridge on her. So she could have been done better. Lucy feels much more like a real person to me, and her crush on Jekyll at least serves to show him being a good person and loyal fiance to Emma.

I gotta say musical!Jekyll is generally less of a selfish coward than book!Jekyll, too. Musical!Jekyll is a bit of a wet blanket, but at least he's out to help his gravely mentally ill father; book!Jekyll just wanted to have his party cake and eat it, too, without losing his respectable image. So, yeah, I like musical!Jekyll better and I'm not sorry. {; P I daresay if Hyde is less evil in the musical, it's because Jekyll is more good—and, lest we forget, Hyde is Jekyll, and Jekyll is Hyde. {= )

ETA: I just spent a bunch of time listening to more of that recording, and it's so much better than the Original Broadway Cast one. Like, dang, they're not shying away from criticism of the upper class, and I'm so here for it. {X D

~Neshomeh

*LEMMING SCREECH* by RippleStarShards on 2022-01-18 19:30:29 UTC Edited Reply

Yes! I have the exact same level of salt mine with Jekyll and Hyde! I mean, the musical adaptation wasn't THAT bad, but it got so many things wrong that it's just not very enjoyable for me!

I'm sure I'll enjoy them, I love over the top stuff since I'm a bit of a theater kid. I always appreciate a bit of scenery chewing.

Or maybe that's just cause I come from the Circle of Lemmings.

Hi! Have an origami boat! by ClaireBook1 on 2022-01-18 17:35:36 UTC Reply

I also like Edgar Allen Poe, which reminds me that I've hardly read anything written by him besides The Raven and The Telltale Heart.

-Claire