I want to see something...

Subject: I want to see something...
Author: Kittyauthor
Posted on: 2022-07-11 17:17:08 UTC

I want to see if your hypothesis of "the AI assigns Rowling to any fic with HP characters in it" by bleeping those characters out.

I can't recall if My Immortal or Thirty Hs is less like the original canon, so I'll use both.

My Immortal first three chapters with HP characters (no ANs besides in-text ones): Cory Doctorow?!

Hmm. Let's try it with more material.

Same as above, except first seven chapters: Rowling.

Same as above, but the names swutched in for more generic names (excluding OCs): Rowling still.

So, I don't think it's the AI auto-assigning names because of the HP Characters appearing from this evidence, but one more HP badfic to go, naturally.

Thirty H's first chapter alone (not the AN one: Rowling

Same as above, but with names genericized (except OCs): Stephen King (oh geez pffff)

Thirty H's first seven chapters: Rowling, as expected.

Same as above, but no HP names: Cory Doctorow

Conclusion: It depends on the material. If it is similar to Rowling's writing style (Both of my Mission Ones, My Immortal), then it brings up Rowling no matter the case (unless I shpxed up and left a couple of HP names in My Immortal), but if it isn't (Thirty H's), it gives a different result once the names are replaced.

Interesting.

-kA

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Guys, I found something really cool, by Kі nо Shirayuki on 2022-07-11 16:09:33 UTC Reply

I Write Like, a site where you can feed any English text into and find out which famous author's writing style the text is closest to. I fed a few of my stuff in there and I got Charles Dickens and Margaret Atwood among many others.

Well, go figure. by Linstar on 2022-07-16 16:12:45 UTC Reply

I put in Maya Sue, and I write like...J K Rowling. I can’t say that surprises me, though. It’s Harry Potter mission.

I like the Harry Potter series, but as for Rowling...I can’t say I particularly care about her opinions or writings beyond that. shrugs

—Ls

And with An Introduction (My Permission Request sample)... by Linstar on 2022-07-16 19:34:35 UTC Edited Reply

...I write like Harry Harrison.

Who?

—Ls

So... by Sergio Turbo on 2022-07-14 11:29:24 UTC Reply
I fed the thing various excerpts from The World Without Authors, and here are the results:
- One of the dogfights featuring Variable Fighters apparently resembles Arthur Clarke. Same result for one of the pre-mission briefings. That makes sense, I guess.
- One of the bits with Nikki during her down time is apparently in the style of Stephenie Meyer. I am greatly offended and horrified by this,
- Corolla Being Corolla gets Hernest Hemingway apparently. I am quite baffled.
- Keiko driving a Cyber Formula car gets Dan Brown. I'm quite baffled again.
Fun fact: I never read anything by any of them. I cannot even claim theywere influences in me forming my writing style!
I tossed in an excerpt from my book, and... by Iximaz on 2022-07-13 11:53:46 UTC Reply

...I got Mark Twain.

Not that I'm complaining but that feels wrong somehow, haha.
So I put in one of my stories from NaNoWriMo by Novastorme on 2022-07-12 07:51:50 UTC Reply

The original fic to be precise (for those not aware I work on 5 'fics at once during NaNoWriMo, aiming to write 10k in each)

And it's come back saying I write like Dan Brown...

I'll admit that I haven't really polished up the bit of the fic I put in so it might change once that's been done, but as it is I'm not entirely sure if I'm happy or not.

Nova
I got Harry Harrison by strawberrybanana on 2022-07-12 01:43:06 UTC Reply

Interesting, because I have no idea who that is. Guess I have some new books to check out!

Hey, me too! (nm) by Linstar on 2022-07-16 19:35:13 UTC Reply
Many of my non-PPC fics keep getting Anne Rice by Kі nо Shirayuki on 2022-07-12 03:53:39 UTC Reply

Specifically, the sensual-to-explicit slash fics.

I fed it bits and pieces of regency setting AUs I did, by Lily Winterwood on 2022-07-12 00:11:36 UTC Reply

even the bit where I straight up made Thorin quote Mr Darcy, and I even took out the blatant references to Hobbits and whatnot. I got Mark Twain.

Honestly, I think this AI needs a bit of updating. It hasn't gotten any new authors to compare to since the last time I ran into it, in like... 2013, haha. I get the feeling that any allusions to magic tend to immediately give you JKR as a result, because somehow my original worldbuilding regency-fantasy AU for Supernatural and my modern Selkie AU for Yuri on Ice got JKR and the one common denominator between the two is... magic.

Also got Chuck Palahniuk on a very Good Omens-esque angel bureaucracy fic, so. Huh.

While my Heian fantasy AU got by Kі nо Shirayuki on 2022-07-12 03:46:38 UTC Reply

Charles Dickens 🤣🤣🤣

Ooh, neat. by Neshomeh on 2022-07-11 20:33:08 UTC Reply
I was gonna dump my entire solo-written body of work in there, but it says very long texts are cut before analyzing. Alas. One story at a time, then, and I'll tally the results.
- "Introducing Ilraen" (FicPsych story) - Neil Gaiman
...

Welp, those are my results, then. Later, dudes!

Nah, kidding. That's my early work, and an interlude. It'll be interesting to see what happens as we approach the present and look at missions to various continua.
- "Family Ties" (Potterverse mission) - J. K. Rowling
- "What Friends Will Do" (Young Wizards mission) - J. K. Rowling
- "Harry Potter and the Dragonriders of Pern" (that) - J. K. Rowling
- "Gestalt Therapy" (FicPsych story, 2008 Epidemic/Invasion) - overall: Bram Stoker; Part 1: Isaac Asimov; Part 2: Bram Stoker; Part 3: Kurt Vonnegut; Part 4: Bram Stoker; Part 5: Cory Doctorow.
- "The Smasher" (Super Smash Bros. mission) - Cory Doctorow
- "Ilraen's Journal" (interlude) - Kurt Vonnegut
- "The Girl and Her Dragon" (How to Train Your Dragon mission) - J. K. Rowling
- "The Adventure Begins With One Step" (Lord of the Rings mission) - Isaac Asimov
- "Ring Child" (megacrossover mission) - overall: Dan Brown; Part 1: Dan Brown; Part 2: Cory Doctorow
- "Nume: Ten Years Thence" (interlude) - Isaac Asimov
- "Morning After" (interlude) - J. K. Rowling
- "Never Let Go" (Phantom of the Opera mission) - Kurt Vonnegut
- "Full Metal and the Hogwarts Mishap" (HP x Fullmetal Alchemist mission) - J. K. Rowling
- "A Friend in Deed" (Skyrim fic) - Dan Brown
- "Green Glass" (Skyrim fic) - Ray Bradbury
- "Eyes on the Horizon" (Skyrim fic) - Kurt Vonnegut
- "So the Mountains May Echo" (Skyrim fic) - Dan Brown (same results for both chapters separately and together)
- "When Will We See You Again?" (Dragonriders of Pern prompt fic) - J. D. Salinger
- "What Am I Forgetting?" (PPC prompt fic) - Isaac Asimov
- "Paint the Town Green" (PPC prompt fic) - Stephanie Meyer [Aaaaaahhhh! ... But no, I get it. It's because of Gall's inner monologue and blatant thirst, isn't it?]
- "Seemed Like a Good Idea at the Time" (PPC prompt fic) - Douglas Adams
- "Racing: Sky" (DRoP prompt fic) - David Foster Wallace
- "Practical Skills" (PPC prompt fic) - Neil Gaiman
- "Season's Beginning" (DRoP prompt fic) - Charles Dickens
- "The Spires of Prospero" (Warhammer 40k poem) - David Foster Wallace
- "The Long Night of Agent Supernumerary" (interlude) - James Fenimore Cooper [Seriously? The Leatherstocking guy? THIS I don't get.]
- "Something Beyond" (HP fic) - J. K. Rowling [Big shocker there.]
- "Missing Time" (FicPsych story) - Kurt Vonnegut
- "The Phantomess of the Opera and the Half-Blood Prince" (HP x PotO mission) - Jack London [Huh, this is the first time JKR hasn't been returned on a sample involving the Potterverse.]
And, for a laugh:
- "The Cabin" (explicit PPC fic) - Kurt Vonnegut
... Okay, that's less of a laugh than I was expecting. Huh.

Let's look at the results! I submitted a total of 37 samples, counting individual chapters but not the overall story results. Here's the tally of my author hits from highest to lowest:
- JKR - 7
- Kurt Vonnegut - 6
- Isaac Asimov - 4
- Dan Brown - 4
- Cory Doctorow - 3
- Neil Gaiman - 2
- Bram Stoker - 2
- David Foster Wallace - 2
- Ray Bradbury - 1
- J. D. Salinger - 1
- Stephanie Meyer - 1
- Douglas Adams - 1
- Charles Dickens - 1
- James Fenimore Cooper - 1
- Jack London - 1
Fascinating. J. K. Rowling I get—plenty of these sample use lots of words that come up in Rowling's work—but I haven't read enough Vonnegut to say where that's coming from. It's more interesting when you break things down a bit more:

Non-missions only:
- Kurt Vonnegut - 5
- Isaac Asimov - 3
- Dan Brown - 3
- Neil Gaiman - 2
- Bram Stoker - 2
- J. K. Rowling - 2
- David Foster Wallace - 2
- Cory Doctorow - 1
- Ray Bradbury - 1
- J. D. Salinger - 1
- Stephanie Meyer - 1
- Douglas Adams - 1
- Charles Dickens - 1
- James Fenimore Cooper - 1
Missions only:
- J. K. Rowling - 5
- Cory Doctorow - 2
- Isaac Asimov - 1
- Dan Brown - 1
- Kurt Vonnegut - 1
- Jack London - 1
Just Skyrim fic:
- Dan Brown - 3
- Ray Bradbury - 1
- Kurt Vonnegut - 1
Just Pern promptfic:
- J. D. Salinger - 1
- David Foster Wallace - 1
- Charles Dickens - 1
It seems pretty clear most of my JKR-ness is coming from missions, partly because several of them involve the Potterverse and thus naturally hit a lot of the same word choices. Plus the one actual HP fanfic. So, what style do I write most like overall?

A classic science fiction author with a dry sense of humor and keen awareness of both humanity's foibles and its potential.

I can dig it. ^_^

~Neshomeh
Doing it for all my missions. Let's see how it goes. by Kittyauthor on 2022-07-11 16:47:13 UTC Edited Reply

RC Hyperbola first.

Mission 1: J.K. Rowling. Uhhhhhhhhhh

Mission 2: J.K. Rowling again. This really worries me...

Mission 4: Cory Doctorow. Okay, so I'm getting better, right?

Mission 5: J.K. Rowling again

As for O'Ryan Keys and crew...

Mission 1: J.K. Rowling again

Interlude 1: Cory Doctorow.

Mission 2: Leo Tolstoy

As an important note, this is a just-for-fun site, and AI can be wrong. Alongside other things, missions 2 and 5 both had Harry Potter badfic. Perhaps the AI notices Harry Potter characters and is like "yep, just like the author" in certain cases. If one gets Rowling, it isn't a 100% bad thing; your writing isn't like Rowling's morally or socially. It's just similar in style. And AI can mess up and that's okay.

The major takeaway is that this isn't a good or bad site. It's just for fun. And just because your missions consistently get a certain author does not mean you have to agree with it. And, everyone's writing style is different to degrees and probably relies on what someone liked as a child.

It's fun, and it's funny to see AI say "yep, My Immortal is like Rowling's own style."

-kA

(Edit: Even funnier when I filed off the names and it still gave Rowling as what the fic is most like.)

Adding on: It's just an AI, it can only analyze quantifiable data. by Neshomeh on 2022-07-11 20:45:27 UTC Reply

This will not tell you if your writing is good or bad, funny or boring. It can tell you if you frequently use words, punctuation, and sentence structures in ways that correspond to another author's use of words, punctuation, and sentence structures, but that's about it. It's worth looking at How it works and Is it accurate? on the site to understand the tool before you draw conclusions based on it.

~Neshomeh

Feeding the first chapters (excluding a/ns) of several Legendary Badfics gives: by Kі nо Shirayuki on 2022-07-11 16:19:03 UTC Edited Reply

My Immortal: J. K. Rowling O.o

My Inner Life: Ursula K. Le Guin

legolas by laura (whole story): Cory Doctorow

Light and Dark The Adventures of Dark Yagami: Cory Doctorow again

Blood Raining Night: Anne Rice

HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH (first and second chapters): J. K. Rowling again (I think this site gives this result to any fic with HP names in it 🤣)

Forbiden Fruit the Tempation of Edward Cullen: Cory Doctorow again

Halflife: Fulllife Consequences: James Joyce (yay, a new name!)

soulless shell (prologue to chapter 2): James Joyce again

I want to see something... by Kittyauthor on 2022-07-11 17:17:08 UTC Edited Reply

I want to see if your hypothesis of "the AI assigns Rowling to any fic with HP characters in it" is true by bleeping those characters out.

I can't recall if My Immortal or Thirty Hs is less like the original canon, so I'll use both.

My Immortal first three chapters with HP characters (no ANs besides in-text ones): Cory Doctorow?!

Hmm. Let's try it with more material.

Same as above, except first seven chapters: Rowling.

Same as above, but the names switched in for more generic names (excluding OCs): Rowling still.

So, I don't think it's the AI auto-assigning names because of the HP Characters appearing from this evidence, but one more HP badfic to go, naturally.

Thirty H's first chapter alone (not the AN one): Rowling

Same as above, but with names genericized (except OCs): Stephen King (oh geez pffff)

Thirty H's first seven chapters: Rowling, as expected.

Same as above, but no HP names: Cory Doctorow

Conclusion: It depends on the material. If it is similar to Rowling's writing style (Both of my Mission Ones, My Immortal), then it brings up Rowling no matter the case (unless I shpxed up and left a couple of HP names in My Immortal), but if it isn't (Thirty H's), it gives a different result once the names are replaced.

Interesting.

-kA

I got.... by Philly on 2022-07-11 16:13:28 UTC Reply

Douglas Adams. I didn't think my writing was that funny or quirky but I guess I was wrong.

For some reason, by Kі nо Shirayuki on 2022-07-12 04:00:01 UTC Reply

Cory Doctorow shows up a lot.