Subject: Look up NPC on the wiki (nm)
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Posted on: 2011-08-09 19:58:00 UTC
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Many, many questions. by
on 2011-08-09 16:50:00 UTC
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I want to write about what happens to badfic when the PPC is done purging it. It's kind of a large-scale idea and really hard to wrap your head around if you aren't fluent in PPC-speak.
Question #1:
Are there any stories specifically dealing with what happens to badfic when the PPC is done there? I am *not* looking for fics about agents taking out things or even people (i.e. children) with them. I am not talking about the badfic universe collapsing. I am talking about what happens when the universe is "back to normal". Because I would like to do that.
Question #2:
May I write about a story that doesn't exist?
You see, I wanted to have a story about the TV cop show Blue Bloods. However, there are no PPC missions about the Blue Bloods. There are not really horrible, awful fics about Blue Bloods yet (But I'm sure there will be later), and I don't want to use my imagination thinking up a really, really horrible BB fic, either.
Question #3:
Has anyone ever addressed "losing your insanity?" Because I think I may use that. It could be like (Discworld) going the opposite of drunk, only it's the opposite of insane. It could be worse than insanity (which is really common around here), because it could mean that the person tries to see how everything makes sense. But almost everything doesn't make sense. At all. So that would be even worse than going clinically insane. Or would that be a kind of insanity? Hmm...
Question #4: Does the PPC have 'copyrights' (er, I'm sure that's not the right word but you get the idea) on anything other than agents and OFUs? I'm not sure how to say this. Hmm.
Question #5: Can I set up an organization that is neither an OFU or a PPC-style thing, but still talks about what happens when writers write bad badfic? Can I mention OFUs and the PPC without asking permission? Because I'd be asking everyone permission.
For example, if I say in my fic that the Sunflower argued with an agent about a result of Bleeprin experimentation, would I have to find out who invented the Sunflower? (I'm pretty sure it was Jay & Acacia).
As you can see, my brain (what's left of it) is churning like crazy.
I am incredibly happy, though. This is the largest amount of written ideas I've had in almost forever. I'm really excited. And now I'm going to go read the Wiki *golden lights and choir voices* while I wait for replies. -
Borrowing the question thread ... by
on 2011-08-15 14:39:00 UTC
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(Hope you don't mind, Aeidhryn)
My agents need to use the handy dandy "present tense detected, reset fic to past tense" button. I was going to look up how other authors have handled this, but every link I find on the wiki is broken.
I don't feel comfortable with rewriting fic quotes to past tense. OTOH, leaving the quotes in present tense gives the impression that the button didn't work.
Has anyone on the thread dealt with a present-tense fic? How did you handle the reset to past tense? -
Some more answers by
on 2011-08-10 07:32:00 UTC
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1: In a few of my missions I've mentioned that the fic will fold in on itself. It will just disappear. In a way it's like everything non-canon will be sucked into a black hole and everything else will pop back in the place where it belongs.
#2: Like hypothetical badfic? That could work. Just don't write your own. I've seen a few people write Sues on purpose (both for parody and so they'd have something to PPC, seriously) and they usually overdo it on the bad spelling front. If on million monkeys can churn out Shakespeare, than 352 of them wrote that dialogue.
#4: Technically, I have copyright on anything that I have written. Including this message post. But I guess that is not what you meant.
Hmm. A bunch of equipment belongs to the PPC, except the things that were stolen from other canons (such as neuralyzers and SEP fields). Minis originally came from OFUM.
#5: Mentioning things without having permission in my opinion, is okay. It would be like a pop culture reference. I doubt Joss Whedon had permission from Monty Python when he had Dawn say: No one expects the Spanish Inquisition. -
A thought on #3... by
on 2011-08-09 23:13:00 UTC
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Since you mentioned Discworld, this is sort of addressed in "Thief of Time" (someone is the opposite of insane...sort of. It's complicated). I would think it sort of works the same way as being knurd; you need some body alcohol to keep the world from looking like the awful place that it is (or something), so maybe you also need a bit of insanity to supply creativity, dreams, inspiration, etc. or to make life more fun.
I don't know how you would get to be "enasni," though, since there isn't an insanity equivalent of Klatchian coffee...yet. -
Would Bleeprin count as Klatchian coffee? (nm) by
on 2011-08-09 23:19:00 UTC
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Rather fewer answers. by
on 2011-08-09 17:53:00 UTC
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Question #1:
No idea, personally. I'm sure someone knows, though.
Question #2:
Yes. ElvenEars, long, long ago, did that-- wrote a mission set on a composite of badness, rather than any specific badfic. And I believe others have, as well. If I ever do a mission, it'll probably be along the same lines. Definitely don't write a badfic yourself. One of the reasons for the PPC is a love of goodfic-- last thing we want to do is reverse that.
Question #3:
It sounds like a very, very interesting concept and story, and you've my best wishes for writing it.
Question #4:
The rules are fairly simple. Don't use PPC property-- HQ, the Flowers, the uniforms (specific to PPC), etc. The OFUs were Miss Cam's domain, but she doesn't handle those anymore, I don't think. In light of recent RL events, poking her about them might be a bad idea. If you're using a PPC character that's not yours, ask permission and give credit-- that's about it, unless someone else has a better answer. If you're really not sure about something, you can always check with a beta, too.
Question #5:
Absolutely. There's a plethora of anti-badfic agencies out there, we're just the coolest. Personally, I'd love to see more essay-type-things about fanfiction in general, and I'd really love to see more people with a wider range of badfic-responses than "Sue! Kill!" I might actually have to join you, there...
The Sunflower was indeed invented by Jay and Acacia. He's one of those characters that's pretty much fair use for anyone, as long as you're not going OOC. Just don't kill anyone off or make sweeping changes to PPC canon without asking. -
Okay, follow-up questions... (and thanks for the responses) by
on 2011-08-09 18:10:00 UTC
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Yes, the PPC is the coolest, but also the most complicated. And I'm not trying to shoulder my way into a niche that the PPC has filled for years-- I'm trying to discover a new one.
Question #1: So, where can I find PPC characters like the Sunflower and Lux that can be maybe used for a cameo? Is there a Wiki list of cameo-able characters? Because there's a lot of conceptional stuff going on and now I'm thinking about a prequel... which would help to explain how the organization a lot better than a full story would.
Finally, thank you very, very much for replying. -
Look up NPC on the wiki (nm) by
on 2011-08-09 19:58:00 UTC
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Many thanks. by
on 2011-08-09 23:09:00 UTC
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*kowtows once or twice and wanders away into the wikia*