I don't think voting for something makes sense...

Subject: I don't think voting for something makes sense...
Author: JulyFlame
Posted on: 2011-06-21 20:40:00 UTC

...If you don't know the fandom and are voting for it based on the fact that people who are in the fandom think it's good. Everyone's idea of what makes a fic good or not varies, and some have far more stringent standards. You can't really say it's Legendary Good or not unless you are in the fandom yourself and have read it yourself, because otherwise it turns into a popularity and hearsay competition.

While the PPC is one of the last places you'll find a questionable fic rec, your average idea of a good story here is not going to be the same as that shared between a group of your average thirteen year old fic writers. Not to mention for that matter that not all tastes are the same, and that should be taken into account. There are some awesome stories I've read on fanfiction.net I wouldn't rec here because they twist canon to the point of being unrecognizable between the changes to the setting, characters, tone, and anything you could imagine. It wouldn't fit most people's tastes and really only meets a very broad definition of 'fanfiction'.

There are some very excellent stories I have read on fanfiction.net that I wouldn't rec as a general sharefic or suggest to nominate for a Legendary Goodfic because they aren't actually very good fanfiction in the sense that even the basic setting is barely recognizable, a few chapters in, because it's been that changed from the actual canon, let alone anything else most peoople like reading within the context of fandom.

If you look at the Legendary Goodfic page, it is a very, very short page that consists of very few entries. Those current entries are, for the most part, overwhelmingly known about and agreed upon as being excellent fic.

For example, practically everyone in the PPC knows about OFUM. Everyone who was active in the LotR fandom right when it was getting its huge rush of Mary Sue fics knows about the Don't Panic fics. If you read slash in the Harry Potter fandom you probably had the Shoebox Project recommended to you or you've recommended it to someone else.

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Fic Nominations by Miah and Wikimaster on 2011-06-19 02:25:00 UTC Reply

Wikimaster and I were talking and decided that this seems like a good time to nominate some fics for the Bleepfic/Legendary Badfic and Sharefic*/Legendary Goodfic pages.

Like it says on the wiki, to be added to one of these pages it should get at least three votes. We can start a new thread of replies for each fic, and declare the voting over when this Nominations thread is at the bottom of the first page on the Board.

*Sharefic is a working idea name for the goodfic equivalent of Bleepfic. Yes, Betterfic has already been suggested. Suggestions/Votes for a final name for this page can be included in a response thread to this topic as well.

Classic LotR Sharefic by Hawkelf on 2011-06-21 04:03:00 UTC Reply

These are a few links that used to be shared around quite often, if I recall correctly.

Brothers In Arms, by the Nightrunners
http://www.fanfiction.net/u/242499/The_Nightrunners
http://www.nightrunners.0catch.com/
Incomplete Modern AU with reincarnation, guns, bands, and everything that I miss about modern AUs.

Mellon Chronicles, by Cassia and Siobhan
http://www.aragorn-legolas.5u.com/main1.html
Aragorn and Legolas bro-fest so classic it practically created a couple tropes.
Warning: the site still runs perfectly well, but will likely try to tell you that it runs better on other platforms first.

BagEnders, by Lady Alyssa and RandomDent
http://bagenders.stormpages.com/
Modern AU CRACK! This is so much crack that it is Legen-DARY. Parts of it are gone, possibly forever, alas. Cult classic, really.

I'll sort through my bookmarks and see if I can find anything else.

I'm flailing so much I can't actually do a keyboard flail. by JulyFlame on 2011-06-21 20:01:00 UTC Reply

I Renominate/vote all of those as Legendary Goodfic (as compared to sharefic).

And aghjasfasfk so much rereading to do now that you linked those.

May I nominate Sary for Bleepfic? by Rosie Azrael on 2011-06-20 23:20:00 UTC Reply

All that is left of it is a MST...

About a page and a half of OH GOD WHAT IS THIS I DON'T EVEN, as anyone who has read it will attest. Character oh god what is this, a killer monkey, and lots and lots of underaged, passionaty sex. Yes, you read that right...

Seconded (or "thirded?") with reservations by Myrtle Tamlane on 2011-06-23 04:25:00 UTC Reply

This link was my first encounter with Sary, and by golly it is it a bad one. I thought it was a troll at first, but now I don't think you can get this kind of bad through conscious effort; your brain would explode.

That said, I didn't find it nearly as horrific as, say, LittlefootxCera or Subjugation. Perhaps that's because it's not as graphic, perhaps because it's so short, or maybe it's because the MST softened the blow. In any case, it is extraordinarily bad.
Totally second this! (nm) by Miah on 2011-06-21 01:19:00 UTC Reply

Bleepfic nomination: Voyager Uncensored by Fish Custard on 2011-06-20 19:31:00 UTC Reply

http://www.asstr.org/files/Authors/Scatwoman/Voyager%20Uncensored/

Almost 60,000 words of Voyager characters engaging in thoroughly implausible and brain-destroying things (including the use of bodily fluids that really just Do Not Go There and human characters suddenly acquiring alien genitalia).
Hogwarts/Giant Squid badfic nomination by Miah on 2011-06-20 16:21:00 UTC Reply

First Encounter

Summary: Hogwarts has contracted a disease called loneliness and the giant squid as the only cure. Hogwartsgiant squid

My Comments: This is a story about the giant squid buggering Hogwarts. Seriously. It is totally NOT SAFE FOR BRAIN. Bronwyn and Maslab have done a sporking of this fic, and it is fairly well-known. Come on vote for this one. It deserves to be on the Legendary Badfic page!

Hm. I think I disagree with that one. by JulyFlame on 2011-06-20 23:59:00 UTC Reply

I don't think it's really 'legendary' material, as far as badfic goes, mainly because it's completely and utterly crack. Well written crack, because if it was poorly written it'd not be able to steep into your mind.

'At one time, he had dreams of being an actor. The larger he grew, the fewer agents and scouts would come calling, until they finally stopped altogether.'
Seconded unreservedly by Fish Custard on 2011-06-20 18:04:00 UTC Reply

Thank you for reminding me of that... thing. I will now go and scrub my brain clean again.

Ooh! Legendary Goodfic nomination. by PitViperOfDoom on 2011-06-19 23:49:00 UTC Reply

Left 4 Dead fanfic called Two Step. it's well-known enough to have its own TV Tropes page: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Fanfic/TwoStep

Seconding this one. (nm) by Firebird766 on 2011-06-20 03:16:00 UTC Reply

Stargate SG-1 fic by caddy-shack on 2011-06-19 23:27:00 UTC Reply

Honor Amongst Thieves

Vala Mal Doran steals a cargo ship but wrecks it on a backwater little farm planet whose people don't even speak a dialect she can understand. Fortunately, there is a stranger living among them who is able to translate. Ship ahoy! DanielVala

My thoughts: I remember finding this and being skeptical, but I was pleasantly surprised. It focuses mainly on Vala and Daniel, but gives some time to the rest of SG-1 and other important characters.

To avoid gushing, it is fun in the 'Vala drags Daniel along for an adventure' way. They have misadventures, Daniel becomes a space pirate while remaining true to his personality, and it follows the canon timeline loosely, while still remaining independent.

I nominate it for either Sharefic, or Legendary.

I second this one (nm) by Miah on 2011-06-20 00:51:00 UTC Reply

Some Video Game nominations by Aster Corbett on 2011-06-19 15:44:00 UTC Reply

I love me some good AU. Here are some great what-if stories that love and revere canon and cherish it and reap the fruits of their care in writing.

Final Fantasy VII
The Fifth Act, by Sinnatious
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5951824/1/TheFifthAct
-Perhaps the best 'time travel' fic I have ever seen. You know, the sort that has the main protagonist travel back in time in an attempt to fix the problems of the canon before they begin? It does have a happy ending, but manages to be so intelligent in regards in the canon and be so masterfully crafted with plenty of literary devices and twists that it makes a disturbing amount of sense... and is dramatic enough while doing it I actually got scared in the middle for the characters. It's a great AU, one of those 'this is how it really would have gone, I can't imagine it would go differently after reading this' stories. The characterization is spot on, even when the fates of certain characters are changed drastically...

The Legend of Zelda
Cry For Hyrule, by Seldavia
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3993350/1/CryforHyrule
- Yet another AU, this one exploring a possibility that the King of Red Lions' intentions have not always been pure. This AU fic is so rooted in the game's canon it is disturbingly convincing to some people, and even the parts that are made up fit in with other games in the series and make sense of the Zelda Timeline. This is a fic I found so powerful as a growing fanwriter that made it into my own personal fanon for The Legend of Zelda (Daphnes was actually using Link for his own ends, being the fanon)and coaxed me into a lasting friendship with Seldavia herself. This fanfic is on the tvTropes fanfic rec page for the Legend of Zelda... one among THREE fics there written by Seldavia, all recommended by DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

The Fourth Piece, by Davin Sunrider
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3616333/1/TheLegendofZeldaTheFourthPiece
- This fic takes a lot of hated tropes in The Legend of Zelda and remakes them as goodfic, with a lot of thought and skill put into the story. If you like long war sagas, this is for you. It isn't as perfectly based in canon as the others are on this list, but enjoyable nonetheless. And not only that, it starts out quite good but as you read it you can see it get better and better as the author takes advice from others.

Metroid
I, Pirate, by Seldavia*
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5451766/1/I_Pirate
-This fanfiction follows the Metroid Prime games, but not from the perspective of Samus. It follows the perspective of a Space Pirate of the science division that becomes self-aware due to Phazon radiation. The fic sheds so much light on the possible organization of Space Pirates, but it really earns gold stars for portraying this OC's growing and learning so well that the tired 'OC tags along with Samus' plot becomes so involved and believable that Samus' characterization actually becomes richer to the reader for it. In my personal opinion, this fanfic feels MORE LIKE CANON than the literal adherence to Metroid canon itself at times...

*Actually, can we just get Seldavia up here as a Legendary Goodfic author? This is not because she is my friend, but that I BECAME FRIENDS WITH HER because she wrote goodfic, and was the first goodfic writer I ever encountered... and she has not STOPPED writing goodfic, ever.

Seconding 4. (nm) by Fish Custard on 2011-06-20 18:06:00 UTC Reply

I've wanted to do this for a while... by Jacer on 2011-06-19 12:33:00 UTC Reply

I nominate Alicorn24's Twilight fics Luminosity and Radiance (there's also Flashes, snapshots from universe of L and R).

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6137139/1/Luminosity
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6460146/1/Radiance
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6813856/1/Flashes

Quote the author: "Luminosity is similar to "Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality" in that the most significant difference is to the protagonist's rationality skills: Luminosity's Bella is a rational, smart self-knowledge junkie who wants to know what is going on in her brain. The story hugs canon pretty closely to start except in terms of inner monologue until chapter 4, and then it's unrecognizable. Elspeth, the narrator of "Radiance", is a semi-original character with her own approach to the theme. The Flashes will be mostly in third person and cover a wide variety of characters."

I've never read the HP one, but I hear it's good too. (not a nomination)

I nominate the HP one! by Krzysztof Drewniak on 2011-06-19 22:44:00 UTC Reply

I nominate "Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality" for sharefic, as it's quite good.

Legendary Goodfic Nomination by PoorCynic on 2011-06-19 11:10:00 UTC Reply

"Those Lacking Spines" (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2903858/1/ThoseLackingSpines) by Organization VI. It's a fantastic deconstruction of the various tropes and concepts behind badfic set in the Kingdom Hearts universe. Yeah, it's a bit trollish and heavy-handed with messages at times, but the humor more than makes up for it.

The story also has its own TV Tropes page, if anyone is curious. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Fanfic/ThoseLackingSpines

I don't know this fandom, but by Miah on 2011-06-20 16:38:00 UTC Reply

people who do are confident of it being good for the canon. It is a good story. Very funny. Therefore, I'll vote for it.

I don't think voting for something makes sense... by JulyFlame on 2011-06-21 20:40:00 UTC Reply

...If you don't know the fandom and are voting for it based on the fact that people who are in the fandom think it's good. Everyone's idea of what makes a fic good or not varies, and some have far more stringent standards. You can't really say it's Legendary Good or not unless you are in the fandom yourself and have read it yourself, because otherwise it turns into a popularity and hearsay competition.

While the PPC is one of the last places you'll find a questionable fic rec, your average idea of a good story here is not going to be the same as that shared between a group of your average thirteen year old fic writers. Not to mention for that matter that not all tastes are the same, and that should be taken into account. There are some awesome stories I've read on fanfiction.net I wouldn't rec here because they twist canon to the point of being unrecognizable between the changes to the setting, characters, tone, and anything you could imagine. It wouldn't fit most people's tastes and really only meets a very broad definition of 'fanfiction'.

There are some very excellent stories I have read on fanfiction.net that I wouldn't rec as a general sharefic or suggest to nominate for a Legendary Goodfic because they aren't actually very good fanfiction in the sense that even the basic setting is barely recognizable, a few chapters in, because it's been that changed from the actual canon, let alone anything else most peoople like reading within the context of fandom.

If you look at the Legendary Goodfic page, it is a very, very short page that consists of very few entries. Those current entries are, for the most part, overwhelmingly known about and agreed upon as being excellent fic.

For example, practically everyone in the PPC knows about OFUM. Everyone who was active in the LotR fandom right when it was getting its huge rush of Mary Sue fics knows about the Don't Panic fics. If you read slash in the Harry Potter fandom you probably had the Shoebox Project recommended to you or you've recommended it to someone else.

I did read it. It was a good story. by Miah on 2011-06-21 22:57:00 UTC Reply

I was only depending on the others to say it was canon violating.

Seconded (or thirded). by Wikimaster on 2011-06-20 01:41:00 UTC Reply

I haven't completed the games, but TLS is a good read for those exasperated by common fic cliches.
Re: Legendary Goodfic Nomination by OpinionedAngel on 2011-06-19 15:26:00 UTC Reply

Oooh! I second this one! Seriously, it's delightful sendup of fanfiction makes it an enjoyable read.

As for my own nomination, I nominate "Crowns of the Kingdom (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3159333/1/Crownsofthe_Kingdom)" by Karalora. Don't be put off by the rather purply prose, it's a really good story that delves into the history of the Disney Universe with plenty of action and adventure.

(Also, are we only allowed to recommend one goodfic title each? 'Cause I think I can dig up a few more over at the TVTropes fanfic rec page...)

Attention! Vote on these numbers, please! by Miah on 2011-06-19 22:41:00 UTC Reply

Nominate as many as you wish, but also vote on the ones that other people have nominated. What would be a good number for adding to a particular list? Three votes for Sharefic/Bleepfic and five for Legendary Goodfic/Badfic?

Or would a different number be better with the group? Two/Four? Four/Six?

What do you all think?

Four and six by IndeMaat on 2011-06-20 07:01:00 UTC Reply

One nomination and three or five (seconded or thirded) votes.

Sharefic proposal. by Sergio Turbo on 2011-06-19 10:23:00 UTC Reply

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3925241/1/TheUltimateAce

Don't let you fooled by the title. This is one of the best fanfics I've ever read, a novelization of Ace Combat 5: The Unsung War that not only develops a realistic personality for Blaze, manages to state that Mobius 1 and Blaze were the same person whithout running into clichès, and even the major canon breach (Chopper surviving the battle over the capital) is done in a wonderful way.
It even drops the Hyperspace Arsenal of AC planes and the "few planes against unlimited mooks" approach for a more realistic story.

Too bad it is a Dead Fic.
Yay, fanfiction! by PitViperOfDoom on 2011-06-19 06:27:00 UTC Reply

I would like to nominat the Good Omens fanfic 'A Spark of Goodness" http://www.fanfiction.net/s/7085070/1/ASparkof_Goodness for the sharefic page. It's a lengthy oneshot with a GO fandom rarity: a depiction of Aziraphale and Crowley as the heterosexual besties the authors intended! Not that there's anything wrong with shipping; don't get me wrong, I love A/C shipfic. But A/C non-shipfic is every bit as good, if not better, being closer to the canon and all.
Can I do an Author nomination? by Pretzel on 2011-06-19 05:27:00 UTC Reply

I ask only because there's one particular author in the Stargate Atlantis fandom that is legendary for her Goodfic. They're solid pieces of work, and explore the military side of the fandom in depth.

The bulk of her work can be found here.
Fear - Animorphs Fanfic. by Wikimaster on 2011-06-19 04:33:00 UTC Reply

Fear, by Lady Kino

Summary: Unlike those war heroes we hear so much about, I can tell you my name. I can tell you name and my address and my e-mail and not fear that someone will come to kill me. Because for a year and a half, I was a Controller. Complete!

My Comments: I've heard of the fic before, but only really read it on a recommendation from Guvnor of Space. After finishing it, I can only say that his view of it is merited, and much more. The OCs are well-characterized, with personalities that look and feel like real people. While the Canon Characters make few appearances (the Animorphs themselves show up two times in the later chapters), their influence can be felt all throughout the story, affecting the protagonist in both positive and negative ways.

Thirded by Guvnor of Space on 2011-06-22 03:19:00 UTC Reply

As WM said, this was my recommendation. I'm a sucker for well written Yeerks, and Lady Kino is a good writer. This is probably my favorite Animorphs fic. Thirded with gusto!
Seconded (nm) (nm) by Krzysztof Drewniak on 2011-06-19 16:25:00 UTC Reply

A few nominations by Tawaki on 2011-06-19 04:21:00 UTC Reply
1. Entry 23784327473467838 » by eris86 reviews
  The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say about fanfiction...oh dear God, it's back.
  Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Fiction Rated: K - English - Humor/General - Chapters: 9 - Words: 7,051 - Reviews: 180 - Updated: 11-4-09 - Published: 12-16-05
  
  2. An Analysis of a Mother's Love by Sev's Girl Forever reviews
  I decided I'd define Mrs. Molly Weasley's words to Bellatrix. C'mon, you know what I'm talking about...
  Harry Potter - Fiction Rated: T - English - Angst/Family - Chapters: 1 - Words: 298 - Reviews: 26 - Updated: 9-8-07 - Published: 9-8-07 - - Molly W. - Complete
  
  3. Out to Lunch by Three-Eyed Squirrels reviews
  Andrew Ketterley was having a very, very bad day.
  Chronicles of Narnia - Fiction Rated: K - English - General/Humor - Chapters: 1 - Words: 5,778 - Reviews: 17 - Updated: 6-8-07 - Published: 6-8-07 - - Andrew Ketterley/Jadis the White Witch - Complete
  
  4. The Dream Dasher » by Thalion King's Daughter reviews
  Lady Ariella Thalia Raven is perfect in every way...except one: she is not a queen. An intentionally outrageous Mary Sue...who grows up.
  Chronicles of Narnia - Fiction Rated: K+ - English - Humor/Drama - Chapters: 14 - Words: 21,131 - Reviews: 144 - Updated: 1-31-07 - Published: 11-6-06 - Complete

Seconding all of these (nm) by Krzysztof Drewniak on 2011-06-21 14:37:00 UTC Reply
Seconded 1 and 2. (nm) by Sonne on 2011-06-20 21:22:00 UTC Reply
I second 1 and 4. (nm) by Jacer on 2011-06-20 17:16:00 UTC Reply

The Particular Problem of Postern Prison by Miah on 2011-06-19 03:05:00 UTC Reply

I am nominating this fic for Sharfic or Legendary Goodfic status.

This is a Sherlock Holmes fic, by an author who has many great stories, but this one is the best of the best.

The Particular Problem of Postern Prison

Summary: Pride takes a fall when young Mr Holmes accepts a challenge from the Yard in another of his early cases. With his career in the balance, can he right old wrongs, renew past alliances and stay alive in the notorious Postern Prison? Seq to Chiro. COMPLETE!

My comments: This is the fourth story in a series of stories about a young Sherlock Holmes who is just beginning his career as a consulting detective. You do not have to read the others in the series first. There are a few mentions of events in the others, but this story carries its own weight. I recommend this story so highly that if it ever became possible for this author to sell this story (and the other three in the series) in physical book form--I'd pay actual money to own a copy.

A Different Lesson by HerrWozzeck on 2011-06-19 03:39:00 UTC Reply

I am nominating this for Sharefic or Legendary Goodfic status.

This is a Kung Fu Panda story, and it took a while to write, but it's one of the best ones I've read.

A Different Lesson

Summary: The very day after his defeat by the Dragon Warrior, a battered and injured Tai Lung is taken in by Master Shifu. Several of the Five, most notably Tigress, think he is out of his mind, while Po has faith in his enemy. Can a father undo his past mistakes?

My comments: Brace yourselves, people: this is a really LONG read. The chapters are all extremely long, but it is absolutely worth every moment invested in the story for how deep it is, particularly given the source material. It's publishable in quality and has some incredibly deep characterization for everyone involved, even the original character.

"Sharefic" by HerrWozzeck on 2011-06-19 02:46:00 UTC Reply

You know, it's funny you should mention "sharefic", because I was itching to post a "goodfic recommendations" thread myself. It's also nice to know there's a Legendary Goodfic page here.

So I take it we start a new thread with our Bleepfic/Legendary Badfic and Sharefic/Legendary Goodfic nominations? That wasn't really that clear...

I think it might work better if each fic has it's own post. by Miah on 2011-06-19 02:56:00 UTC Reply

I'll start one now.