Subject: One of them was "I want to tell you adios." (nm)
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Posted on: 2011-05-21 03:24:00 UTC
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Deletion of Advertising Messages by
on 2011-05-20 17:20:00 UTC
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It has come to my attention that the administrator(s) of this website have been deleting the advertising messages left by agents of Star Advertising. I am asking you to stop, before I am forced to take further action.
The Web is a PUBLIC FORUM and therefore CENSORSHIP is not allowed in any shape or form. Deletion of legal advertisements constitutes censorship, and is therefore ILLEGAL.
Star Advertising, WA -
Spam, spam, spam, spam... (nm) by
on 2011-05-22 16:22:00 UTC
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Bring it. by
on 2011-05-21 02:08:00 UTC
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I am the administrator of this forum. You can reach me via E-mail at techno.dann@gmail.com, if you wish to "take further action".
I direct your attention to the Board Constitution, in which it is clearly stated that there are, in fact, things which we happily declare unacceptable in this space. Furthermore, you will find a similar (if more carefully enumerated list) at the yourwebapps.com Terms of Service. We can, and will, quite happily delete what we please. Are you really this clueless about the usual operating procedures of websites, or are you just trying to scare a group of people who don't look (at first glance) to be legally savvy?
Speaking of which, I suggest (strongly) that you read, carefully, the findings of the Supreme Court of the United States in Valentine v. Chrestensen, in which it was clearly found that advertising is not protected as Free Speech. In short, the right to free speech is not and never was intended to be the right to an audience.
Your message (and this entire thread) will be deleted at approximately 6 PM PST on Monday, the 23rd of May, or whenever I get around to it. Any other advertisements your agents leave will be deleted as soon as they are noticed. Rot in hell, spammer. -
Damn skippy. *applauds* (nm) by
on 2011-05-22 04:09:00 UTC
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*sings the Spam song* by
on 2011-05-21 01:24:00 UTC
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Avaunt, foul Spam! *beats about the head with a ladle*
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Re: Deletion of Advertising Messages by
on 2011-05-20 23:28:00 UTC
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Am I going to have to burst into songs from Spamalot again?
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Fft. Does anyone remember... by
on 2011-05-20 21:42:00 UTC
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Does anyone remember the random word-salad spliced into the message? I thought it sounded interesting and wanted to use it for something.
Then I forgot to write it down. Rarg. -
One of them was "I want to tell you adios." (nm) by
on 2011-05-21 03:24:00 UTC
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Re: Fft. Does anyone remember... by
on 2011-05-20 22:00:00 UTC
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I think the first bit was something like 'that he which takes the word', and there was something about 'she winds the up the nice singing'. Oh, and the middle line had 'acrimonious spaces' in it somewhere.
Sorry I can't be of more use. -
Riiight. by
on 2011-05-20 17:53:00 UTC
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First, does Star have an advertising contract, either with the provider of this board or the admins thereof? I doubt it: legitimate ads are posted here are in image form and in the space allotted. The only ad deleted recently was a nigh-incomprehensible spam ad for Viagra, which can hardly be considered effective or targeted advertising. If one of your people posted that, I suggest you fire them immediately.
If your firm does not have a contract with the provider or the admins, then your advertising is considered unsolicited. The principle behind selling ad space is simple: money is exchanged in order to provide further access to a potential customer base. Space and access are valuable and worth being paid for. If someone attempts to use a dedicated forum for advertising purposes without properly paying for the privilege (thus anticipating possible compensation from advertising revenues) they are attempting to hijack something and not pay for it. That would be theft.
In addition, any incomprehensible word-salad ad for Viagra that a board full of trained writers and linguists couldn't figure out is likely not Legal Advertising. Pfizer Inc., which makes the drug in question, has millions of dollars to spend on real targeted ads--and they are the ultimate authority when it comes to selling Viagra. That would mean your company is either selling a drug without having the right to do so (since someone selling it legally would put at least two seconds of thought into their ad), or selling a knockoff and calling it the real thing. Both are not allowed.
Furthermore, where have you been? Censorship is rampant on the Internet. It does not, however, constitute censorship to remove an incomprehensible, annoying, unpaid-for and questionably legal ad from a public space where it wasn't supposed to be in the first place. Questions? -
Oh, I've missed you, WM. (nm) by
on 2011-05-20 23:56:00 UTC
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Hear, hear! {= D (nm) by
on 2011-05-20 21:06:00 UTC
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Nice answer. :D (nm) by
on 2011-05-20 20:40:00 UTC
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I think we're still talking to a robot by
on 2011-05-20 18:13:00 UTC
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I get the feeling this is an automated (poor) attempt at a 'scare' message. I've seen this kind of thing before, a spammer has several auto-post bots (the likes of which posted the word salad), and then a monitor that will wait until the spam is deleted and then post this.
In most cases the 'advertising agency' doesn't even exist. The poster's handle gives a clue to this, it seems like another computer-generated username, using a slightly different algorithm.
(PS. I feel I should mention that about three other spammy messages were posted and subsequently nuked earlier today) -
Yeah, most likely. by
on 2011-05-20 19:24:00 UTC
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But I've had to learn a lot about proper use of advertising (for my job) in the last few months, and I was working out some issues. Don't mind me. XD
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Re: Yeah, most likely. by
on 2011-05-20 19:55:00 UTC
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Oh, don't worry, I was just speaking my mind too. ^_~