Subject: Six?
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Posted on: 2013-05-08 15:35:00 UTC
Damn. I thought I was evil making my character kill in self-defense at thirteen.
Subject: Six?
Author:
Posted on: 2013-05-08 15:35:00 UTC
Damn. I thought I was evil making my character kill in self-defense at thirteen.
didn't notice everyone else had until after I posted.
Unless it's the Archangel Network putting in an early appearance...
~DF
You mean this watch?
I meant the other watch. The one that doesn't hold a psychopathic Time Lord's essence.
...wait, does that mean you're a Time Lady? Or just a Time Lord/Lady's companion?
~DF
(or, of course, it could be a completely ordinary fobwatch...)
...I think it's your watch, Dawn.
Your TARDIS is actually masquerading as a potato sack as we speak, but um...
Well, you know that one time Gallifrey got pulled to Earth because the Master sent it over via white point star? You, uh, took the opportunity to escape, and you landed in my backyard, and decided to go human. Your TARDIS is masquerading as a garden gnome, by the way. Not sure how it does that or how you're gonna get in...
We went to see the formation of Niagara Falls, but that was about it...
I'm at Number 221, I think.
Hmmm... I don't usually have characters persecuted to the ends of the earth any more. I usually make them miserable because of the things that they've done, or could have done.
First of all, before anything else, I must say that that comic is one of the sweetest things I've ever seen.
Moving on, now. My characters are, as far as I can tell, a perfect example of this. The first one was kicked out of the foster home he'd lived in for basically his entire life after nearly killing another inhabitant. Second one's mother died when she was eight years old, and the third lost both parents to death and alcoholism, respectively.
Writing this out has made me feel evil. I seem to have a penchant for making them all struggle.
Hm, that's actually a tough one. I usually stop myself from going too far, because otherwise I'd find it too hard to give them human responses to these sorts of things, and they'd end up being really serious, rather than the fun I like to think of.
Would cock-blocking my original RP character whenever anything remotely sexual happens class as a bad thing?
I swear, he's probably never even going to get to kiss someone. //cackles
...but I just scrolled over it and saw the subject line. And then, being a hopeless Whovian, I went 'Yana!'
This is probably because I was just discussing Time Lord agents.
...that's all.
~DF
It's probably in some obscure fantasy book I read during high school, though...
The closest one I can think of is on Kim Possible, but her name's Yono.
Obscure fantasy books are fun :) Typing with recently painted nails isn't, unfortunately...
~DF
... but then I woould end up spoilering quite a lot of Blank Sprite's plot points. And that is not good.
However, I think that "Mission #0 - I don't like luxury cars" made it clear that Agent!Sergio had a very rough past. Let's just say that the bits shown there are just the tip of the iceberg...
Heinrich Hollenhund. Definitely. Because Auschwitz.
The thing that always makes me wince a little inside is the pair of fire-elemental sisters I have as side characters in the story. They're named Chrysanthe and Cerise. Chrysanthe died because she overexerted her powers, and one day when I was looking up the "symbolism" of the flowers they're named after, I learned that cherry blossoms represent the fleetingness of life and chrysanthemums represent eternity. I did a sort of full-brain wince.
Most of the characters I've created a full backstory for have had pretty much terrible lives. The mage who couldn't control his magic properly and accidentally killed his mother. The man who, even into his adulthood, was hated by everyone he knew because of things his father had done. The girl who was forced to work as a slave because of the meaning of her name. The old man who was born with the illegal power to alter emotions, who only ever allow his son to come near his to avoid accidentally using the power.
Hm, I just realised how few characters I actually planned out in this universe. Maybe I should stop creating the mythology and history of the place and start working on more actual people, haha.
Congratulations. That was both sad and funny, and just all-round wonderful. Also, Tanfin takes after his grandfather? That sounds hilarious.
Thanks for the link, it was a fun read.
~DF
You know, I've always thought that it's nice to have characters who go through things that normal people don't go through, both good and bad. That's probably because I write mostly fantasy, so when there's a character whose moral dilemma is exactly what kind of magic it's ethical to use on another person without their knowledge, it's supposed to make people think, and then maybe later apply the parallels to something that actually exists, not respond with "hey, I had that exact moral dilemma last night at dinner!" Not that I don't read (and like to write) things where people have mostly average lives in terms of the realism of the problems that they face, but my favorite stories to write are the ones that I hope people will come out of thinking about things that no other author will ever make them think about.
I have an original continuum that I've been writing since I was 15, and dreaming up since 13 (I'm now 24). I can say that pretty much all of the main characters have to suffer through all sorts of terrible things, although they usually end up stronger afterwards... eventually.
There is one character, though, who would look upon five million years of pain as small fry compared to her billions. A large part of it delves into her psychology, so hopefully she is quite well characterised (some of the earlier, less powerful, mains seem a bit bland, and I'm not sure how to fix them) - especially given she has the power level to take down the equivalent of deities.
However, it was a very badly written book, and it often ended up contradicting that fact anyway. I wonder if I could find that spork I read about it... Oh great, I got distracted by the video trailer for the Maradonia film.
Ah, it was called Water Keep (with link to the aforementioned spork).
Either way, it's safe to say your version is probably a lot better. It also reminded me of a webcomic where a guy is so anti-machinery he uses it as a weapon to fight a GLaDOS expy and ends up being labelled a threat by Dalek expies. Hm. I should shut up now.
I mean, I'm not a candidate for it, but some of my best friends are probably Hufflepuffs. :) It would be nice to see some more Ravenclaw & Hufflepuff interaction, especially - it seems to me like most people around there would get along, mostly.
I like emotional/social roadblocks too, though I suppose mine tend to come from studying too much psychology. But essentially, to me a character isn't interesting if all their conflicts are with defeating "evil" people, rescuing princesses, etc. They need to learn how to be wrong, how to let other people be wrong with style, how to chose their battles when nobody is really right, and how to give themselves the kick in the ass they need to get things done.
I think my problem with Mary Sues in general is they're presented as people who are always right (or if they're not, it's not their fault,) rather than people who have things that they can work on.
Everyone has family problems or mental roadblocks they have to deal with at some point. It makes it a bit more realistic, maybe? Anyone who says there are no problems is lying or selling something :)
I've done plenty of horrible things to my characters. Not all of them start out like that, but I really really love tearing them down to see how they take it.
Like that one character whose little brother killed her because she was fated to be the consort of an evil god, but he had twisted mommy issues and she'd been his mother figure all his life (all six years of it...) and he couldn't take her ignoring him for someone else.
Wow that story was fun to write I need to see if I have a copy floating around on my computer anywhere...
Damn. I thought I was evil making my character kill in self-defense at thirteen.
But then I decided he needed a little bit more time as a human before being cursed by the Evil God to be Vampire King and terrorize the world at night. So I gave him a year.
Did you know his first meal as a vampire was his sister's blood?
And he and Hannibal Lecter should probably join a support group.
I don't think either of them wants to stop.
And of any good story. If your character never suffered, their story would be boring, and they would be a Mary Sue. You must be cruel to your creations, by necessity. I wouldn't feel guilty - I would focus on telling the story well, so that it would be a truely good story, not just torture.
I mean, there's over-the-top suffering too, but the thing to remember is that characters' psyches and their responses are shaped by what they've experienced. If you need your character to distrust lawyers for the plot, having a bad experience with a lawyer is usually the right answer. As long as people try and realistically portray the extent of the consequences, and don't pile on so much suffering that I want to concuss myself with 7,000 pages of Russian literature, a bit of suffering is good for the character's soul.
Because I saw that picture and was immediately reminded of how I think of the characters in my writing to be people in their own way.
...I think I may need a moment.