Subject: 'Professional' curiosity
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Posted on: 2010-09-08 20:12:00 UTC
Could you guys tell me something more about what constitutes 'cool and unusual punishment'?
Just, you know, wondering... *ebil mode*
Subject: 'Professional' curiosity
Author:
Posted on: 2010-09-08 20:12:00 UTC
Could you guys tell me something more about what constitutes 'cool and unusual punishment'?
Just, you know, wondering... *ebil mode*
PPC agent's goal #1: Restore continuum to original status.
PPC agent's goal #2: Get back at the badfic for the insanity suffered.
Luckily, the two goals fit together nicely because irony, like any law of narrative comedy, tends to play itself out very often in PPC missions; and one very classic kind of irony is when a bad guy is killed in an ironic fashion--in this case, killed by the continuum he was trying to distort. We're talking Sues here, for the most part (some other phenomena may also be subject to this, such as mini-Sues, author-wraiths, badfic authors at OFUs, uncanonical locations, and misbehaving PPC agents).
It's generally thought that the more canonical and "fitting" the punishment is, the better the canon can recover from the Sue's damage. For example, a witch!Sue in a Harry Potter fic often ends up burned with the Incendio charm--doubly ironic, because she's being targeted by Potterverse magic (a canonical method of demise--highly preferred) and is being "burned as a witch"!
But that's not the only thing that has to be taken into account. Not only does an execution have to be fittingly ironic; it also can't get too old. The less cliched an execution strategy is, the better it seems to work. Witch-burning, in this case, has unfortunately been used quite a few times. Other examples include feeding Sues to the Balrog or the Watcher in the Water. The more unusual, the less often an execution method can be repeated and retain its efficacy. The businesslike executions favored by assassins who prefer to just "get the job done" without any extra frills (bullets, arrows, knives, etc.) don't seem to suffer at all from the problem of being cliched, no matter how often they are used.
I should, however, note that it's important not to be *too* elaborate with executions. Canonical and ironic, or else businesslike and quick, tend to be the best ways to go about the execution. Torture is absolutely forbidden, though it has happened in the past, because it's generally a bad idea to generate any kind of sympathy for the Sue, and torture often has that result. (It's also ethically a bad idea; the Sue may have no more sentience than the average insect, but just as it's distasteful to pull the wings off flies, it's distasteful to torture a Sue, and probably worse in the long run because Sues often mimic humans to such a high degree.) Forced retirement or even decommissioning usually happen, eventually, to assassins who lose perspective and begin to operate under the assumption that they are there to punish Sues rather than protect the multiverse.
I'm not so sure all of those should be counted as irony, per se. A Potterverse Sue can be killed with a Potterverse spell simply because it's the easiest method of execution that doesn't warp canon further - ironic would be if the Sue had invented a ridiculous new spell and that was used ti kill her. That would be something unusual for agents, too. Regardless, I don't think any of this would necessarily qualify as "cool" or "unusual". But maybe I'm just being too blasé.
So what you're saying is, assassins should follow their own conceptions of what constitutes sadi... um, irony?
All I was saying there is that using the canonical tools of whatever universe you're in to kill a Sue is standard proceedure (in order to keep from warping canon further), and almost certainly doesn't qualify as "cool" or "unusual". What does qualify is certainly going to be a matter of opinion regardless, so... well, yes, it depends on what your agent would find most ironic and satisfying (without breaking The Rules, of course).
Eeeeeexcellent...
How an assassin handles a Sue definitely reflects the assassin's personality. "Burn the witch" is not particularly good the fourth time around because it's become too generic to be truly ironic anymore. Many assassins have trademark weapons or execution strategies; others like to get creative with whatever the canon offers. When it comes to assassination style and strategy, a Federation security officer recruited from a "Star Trek" badfic is going to be very different from a sixteen-year-old OFUM graduate or a Middle-Earth mpreg baby who grew up in the Nursery...
Personally, I think that if it's not creative or original, then you're better off just shooting the Sue. Making fun of the badfic is the real meat of a DMS mission anyway; the execution itself doesn't generally take more than a paragraph to describe.
You ought to copy this into the corresponding Wiki-page. Seriously. A veritable flood of information like this should be made available for all to see.
Now, at least, I feel I know exactly what 'cool and unusual punishment' is supposed to be. THANK you!
I am not a mod or anything, but as someone who's been on here a while (though I lurk for most of that while), it is usually best to wait a while before posting a new thread. I know it's been a day, but there's barely anything between this thread and the last thread being posted.
That being said, 'cool and unusual' would be whatever you make of it. It usually entails something along the lines of the punishment fitting the crime. That's how it is for me. It is generally up to yourself.
Vague, I know. Hope that helped a bit, though.
~Keily
It seems agents can get away with being 'creative'. I like, I like.
Oh, and thanks for the tip on posting. I'll remember that.