Subject: I agreee - at least by my definition of a "Mary Sue"
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Posted on: 2010-08-29 07:04:00 UTC

It's all a matter of persaonal definition, I think. In my book, a Mary Sue is a character who steals the show by way of being excessively pretty/powerful/adorable/angsty/et cetera/all of the above. The ridiculous over-the-top-ness of the character is a major part of that definition, but not all of it. If such a character appeared in a story but didn't steal the show, I wouldn't be so quick to label it a Sue - it might be, but I'd want to judge each such case individually.

It's not a foolproof system - the matchmaker Sues who exist to force canon characters into OOC relationships may well be an exception - but that's how I go about it.

So to answer your original question, Charlie, I'd say not - I agree with Aster; if a Mary-Sue-like character were to be in a good story that isn't deliberately playing on the concept, I wouldn't call it a Sue - not outright.

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