I don't know whether to laugh - PPC Posting Board

Subject: I don't know whether to laugh
Author: Honu_Wahine
Posted on: 2010-04-18 00:54:00 UTC

or cry
It's a fairly well written LOTR fic, grammatically and linguistically speaking... but... It's just the willful, and quite frankly (IMHO) unjustified dismissal of most of the relevant canon. And fer cryin' out loud - the authors have even read the damn series. AND THEY DISMISS THEM OUT OF HAND IN THE ...ING AUTHOR'S NOTE!
And then there's the Legomance in there. Just on general principle I despise Legomance (and Legolas in general, but that's just the movie version of him); oh, and apparently, Tolkien got everything about the elves wrong, don't'cha know? Apparently elves can have divorces, have multiple partners (provided they're mortal of course [odd...]), and all the elvish language that Tolkien spent so long creating is also apparently wrong. *GRRrraggh!*
*headsplode* Can I scream now and hunt down the author duo, or am I overreacting?
-foaming at the mouth, HW

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I don't know whether to laugh by Honu_Wahine on 2010-04-18 00:54:00 UTC

I dunno if this will make you feel any better but... by Edward Wilder on 2010-04-18 16:20:00 UTC Reply

I would have to read it to be absolutely sure, but from your description this sounds like a trollfic. Look, the grammar and spelling are good, so the author(s) obviously know how to write, they've read the books so they know what the canon is, but they still get everything wrong about elves, mangle the canon in every way possible, and they admit that they're doing these things. All of these are classic trollfic characteristics. If you want to, link me to the story, and I can confirm my suspicions.

P.S. I don't think the Board is the type of forum to do get all suspicious about it, but before somebody says "Hmm, he knows a lot about trollfics, I wonder if he..." I would like to say, "Ayup." That settle anything?

P.P.S. How did you get this thing to format in italics? I can't figure it out, and it's driving me up the wall!

Re: I dunno if this will make you feel any better but... by Honu_Wahine on 2010-04-18 16:52:00 UTC Reply

Answer to the first: It's not a trollfic, per se... It's just got to be a rather magnificent piece of canon mangling. I mean, the first part of everything about the elves in the series being invented by a spiteful little bastard named Julien (and whoever does a mission into that should recruit him), trying to get back at Legolas. Really, the entire thing, the premise included, is just ridiculous.
For the fic: there's a link in the post called "link".
For the second question: HTML tags. for italics and (remove the spaces before/after the 'i' to get the tag), and add letters like 'b' for bold, 'u' for underline, etc. And there's one for links, but I don't remember it.
-H_W

HTML help by Goldenrod111 on 2010-04-19 05:25:00 UTC Reply

Links are <a href="address to link to">text to display</a>. You can create the < and > without spaces by using < and >, and the ampersand by &.

Maybe just a little... by Elcalion on 2010-04-18 03:37:00 UTC Reply

as far as "hunting down the author duo" goes :-p

As a disclaimer: I'm not a PG and these are my personal views.

The PPC (at least IMHO) is more about mocking the fic than the author itself, and threatening/flaming authors doesn't do help our image as "fandom bullies".

My view of that we should be aiming for "~~love~~ tolerate the author, hate the fic", to mangle a phrase. After all, that's why we have a beta-reading chain, and generally try to keep sporkings away from the fic's author.

As for the fic itself, I've read the first couple of chapters. I don't think the authors have managed to pull off a successful AU - i.e prove to us that Elves having affairs and divorces could work consistently (especially as it would involve justifying a /huge/ revision of Middle-Earth history). Plus the tragic sibling death.

My $0.02: the fic itself is sporkworthy, but let's not get too flamy about the authors themselves. I think we're better than that as a group, and it only causes trouble for the fandom as a whole.

/rant

Elcalion

Oh, well . . . by Honu_Wahine on 2010-04-18 13:18:00 UTC Reply

I was meaning overreacting about the fic. The author bit just slipped in (but take a look at the rest of their LOTR fic, just in case... I think I hurled during one or two of them.) I can tolerate the author... a little. Just a little. I'm going to find one of them and kill it thoroughly.
-Honu_Wahine

Re: I don't know whether to laugh by Jack117 on 2010-04-18 01:37:00 UTC Reply

Its a case of a writer thinking they know more about the series than the author does. People have rejected J.K. Rowling's canon of Harry Potter because they wanted Harry to end up with Hermione. Of course this is still unacceptable, and we're here to point out how wrong people are about these things, in a comical fashion so feel free friend.

Re: I don't know whether to laugh by Jack117 on 2010-04-18 01:37:00 UTC Reply

Oh, and also: Link?

link by Honu_Wahine on 2010-04-18 01:41:00 UTC Reply

GDI! Okay, so my html tag got killed. Un momemento, porfa.
*ducks behind a suspiciously moldy boulder* Okidaizies. Here ya go: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4264386/1/DaughterofTime
let's see if that one gets through, hmm?
Ciao-H_W

Works by Jack117 on 2010-04-18 01:45:00 UTC Reply

It works, thanks. Alternate interpretations are usually all right, as long as they're done well. Like I said people get pretty uptight when they think they know more than the author, especially in the ships department.