There can be crossovers, too. by
Maudlin Hart
on 2010-01-26 00:30:00 UTC
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There's characters I both lust and wish to hug. No, I shan't tell you! Nyeah!
Re: ‘Lust Objects’ vs ‘Favourites’ and Other Definitions by
anamia
on 2010-01-25 15:21:00 UTC
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I may be reading this wrongly, but I assumed that 'Lust Objects' were... well, precisely what they sounded like, whereas 'Favorites' were characters you respected and adored but by no stretch of the imagination lusted over. So, for instance, my (soon to be forthcoming) Agent holds Draco Malfoy as a Favorite and Pierre Gringoire as a Lust Object. (Actually, the only reason she doesn't lust over Draco is that she's a total slash fangirl, and so much prefers him with other men, but that's a different story; there's a reason she transferred to DBS.)
I agree, though, that 'Favorite' is too broad a term. I like the ones you suggested, and would add in a couple of other possibilities:
Anti-Favorites: Characters you love to hate. People like Professor Umbridge would be in here, or possibly Mrs. Bennet.
Favorites of the Intellect: Characters you just want to have a conversation with, possibly over a nice dinner. Hermione, for instance, might qualify, or Aragorn.
Those are all the ones I can think of at the moment. I agree that the agents' profiles probably shouldn't be altered to have them all, but possibly once we organize the list a bit more we could make a new page and just link the 'Favorites' category in the infobox to that.
I'm quite fond of the Paired Objects. I agree that there are many characters you only like when paired with someone else. Fred and George Weasley spring to mind, or Alice and Jasper Hale (yes, I'm a slight Twilight fan. Not a rabid one by any stretch of the imagination, but I'm rather fond of those two.) It's nice to have a shorthand way to express that as opposed to the rather cumbersome, 'Draco. Well, only Draco when he's paired with Harry in plausible goodfic. And only when he's in character.' (Actually a lie; I am quite fond of our Mr. Malfoy in all of his evil, canon glory, but the point remains.)
--anamia
Re: ‘Lust Objects’ vs ‘Favourites’ and Other Definitions by
Elorie
on 2010-01-25 14:41:00 UTC
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I think that is a great idea. This sorting into either L.O. or Favorite is a little crude to my taste. Of course, it depends on the agent what kind of Objects they would have. All in all I also like the categories you offer and I think they cover about anything there is.
Re: ‘Lust Objects’ vs ‘Favourites’ and Other Definitions by
gattsuru
on 2010-01-25 00:51:00 UTC
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Sorry if I nitpick a bit overmuch.
One character -- I think one of Trojie's, Agent Gypsy -- had his eyes on Serenity, and insisted on the "registered subject of adoration" official term in a mission years ago, rather than a Lust Object. I'm still brainstorming my characters, but I was planning to have one be nonsexed, and have him use that name while his more normal partner stuck with the more common Lust Object. So there are ways to communicate nonsexual interest in a canon, even if not everyone necessarily believes you.
It seems the question would be if you want to have a character with something in each category listed, or want to have a normal sized list of Lust Objects, but be able to further detail what type of adoration is going on. In the former case, trying to come up with a half-dozen broad categories makes a lot of sense.
In the latter, though, I think you'll run into problems trying to get any amount of agreed definitions. The character I was toying with would have a 'thing' for fighters with a strong personality, but while Legolas woobiefication would drive him up the walls, he'd never respect an elf or adore someone for being domestic. Something that's precise for him wouldn't work for most other characters, just as something that's precise for Stormsong wouldn't work for most other agents, or how a description of Discworld kleptomania might not be common. In that sense, something more along the lines of putting the description of how the item is adored within parentheses, perhaps with a few established examples, and using the Object Of Adoration superset might be easier.
That's just the newbie viewpoint on it, though.
(Bleh. Typos) by
Sedri
on 2010-01-25 00:21:00 UTC
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Yes, gattsuru, I see them. Too bad we don't have an editing feature. I really must stop making changes and then hitting "post" without doing my third read-through... Ah, well. :)