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Subject: Hmm.
Author: Neshomeh
Posted on: 2013-04-18 15:07:00 UTC

Hi!

1. Okay, no problem.

2. Hmm... in that case, I think whether it makes sense or not depends entirely on who's responsible for the decision to ship her to HQ, and their reasoning. As Ellipsis Flood said, LOTS of agents arrive by plothole, so IMO it's always nice when someone tries to get away from that. I'd say give it some thought, and if you can make it convincing, go for it. {= )

Some suggested considerations: Who is the person doing the sending? If a modern PPC agent, why do they decide this is important enough to potentially break protocol and interact with an author who isn't even messing with an established canon? (Is there actually protocol about agents contacting non-fanfic authors? I'm not sure about that.) Is it someone they know from home, perhaps a friend or relative? If they're not an agent, why do they care enough to intervene in this somewhat extreme way, and how do they know about the PPC? Either way, where/who/what precisely do they think her education is going to come from? Are they going to be involved beyond booting her through the portal/door/whatever? If not, what makes them think the plan will work?

~Neshomeh

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Who wants a cameo? by Silken Dawn on 2013-04-17 14:10:00 UTC Reply

Hey, guys!
It's been several months, and I think it's high time I tried for Permission and wrote an introduction for my first agent, Silky. Essentially, she gets sent to the PPC as punishment for the horribly urple prose* she writes (but she loves it there, so it becomes more of a learning experience than a true punishment). So, who has an agent that wants to put a bad writer in their place?

Hul Choka was to be out of FicPsych by now... (nm) by Tawaki on 2013-04-19 02:40:00 UTC Reply

*smites Enter key* by Tawaki on 2013-04-19 02:41:00 UTC Reply

...I mean, he's relatively sane now.

Seconding Outhra. by hermione of vulcan on 2013-04-20 04:11:00 UTC Reply

I would be interested in adopting some of them.

Agents for adoption by Tawaki on 2013-04-20 16:24:00 UTC Reply

The Agent (DIC).
The Disentangler (DIC).
Granjo (DBS, Doctor Who division). A native of DragonTales, he has nonetheless a very dark personality. He has been reprimanded for torture.
Hul Choka (DF). Released from FicPsych, and finally able to cope with the fact that he's now an obligate cyborg.
Iskillion-Galuit-Elendil (DF). After getting trapped in his morph of Kingsley Shacklebolt, he went to Known Space to turn Protector, as natural metamorphosis resets the two-hour limit (c.f. Animorphs #19).
Melpomene (DoTO). Subject to a standard feline lifespan, she's twelve.
Natalie Green (DMS, My Little Pony division).
Rosalie (DMS, LotR division).
Skirfir (DoTO). Recruited from a couple years after the War of the Ring. Descended from Durin IV but not Durin V. Has a noticeable limp (from a wound suffered in the March 27 sortie).

While we're at it, what about Free-to-Use? by Neshomeh on 2013-04-21 02:17:00 UTC Reply

Not the ones that people are going to adopt, of course, but are there any that you'd like to make available for general use? If so, we have a category for that.

~Neshomeh, who encourages the use of that category and the characters in it.
In that case, by Lily Winterwood on 2013-04-20 18:53:00 UTC Reply

I'd like to take the Agents I've already brought back in my interlude under my wing.

That would be Rosalie, the Agent, and the Disentangler.

Now that the Agent and the Disentangler have a new author... by Outhra on 2013-04-23 00:04:00 UTC Reply

Could you draw something to show us what they look like? They've been formless for long enough.

Also, if you wanted to take a look at them from the mission, by Lily Winterwood on 2013-04-23 03:14:00 UTC Reply

give me your email and I'll add you to the gdoc.

(It's a mission set before the Interlude, btw)

Google Docs e-mail or standard messaging e-mail? by Outhra on 2013-04-23 03:20:00 UTC Reply

Oh, what the heck, I'll show both, just in case.

outhra52080 AT SYMBOL gmail DOT com

mutran863 AT SYMBOL yahoo DOT com

Sent it to your gmail. by Lily Winterwood on 2013-04-23 03:51:00 UTC Reply

Hope you got it?

I'm working on a "collab" mission between them by Lily Winterwood on 2013-04-23 01:25:00 UTC Reply

and Ellie and Chrissy.

They'll have proper forms and personalities by then (as far as I know right now the sixth Disentangler's got quite the gob).

Can I contact you about this? by Outhra on 2013-04-20 16:56:00 UTC Reply

I've been working for a while on ideas for one of the characters that you had recruited, but never appeared in any missions outside of the one that he was found in. There are a few big character components (species, personality, etc.) that were never said or implied when he was found, so I decided them for myself.

I'd like to e-mail you and go over what my views for him are to see if I could adopt him and use him in the form I designed.
I don't want to say who it is yet, because of spoilers for my story, but he might not even be someone you'd remember.

Could you reply with whatever e-mail address you use most often so that I could discuss this with you?

Re: Can I contact you about this? by Tawaki on 2013-04-20 18:00:00 UTC Reply

korora underscore penguin at yahoo dot com

I sent you a message. by Outhra on 2013-04-20 23:50:00 UTC Reply

Did you get it? I don't want to have mistranscribed your e-mail address by accident.

This reminds me... by Outhra on 2013-04-19 20:18:00 UTC Reply

Now that your spin-off has ended, what's the word on your veritable army of minor characters? Is there going to be an adoption procedure for them?

Lily Winterwood's brought back your old Dalek characters, Charlie and Omicron, and I've been looking at one of the characters you recruited (but never actually described) myself, and I was just wondering if you wanted a certain procedure for their adoption, or if the old minor characters were, for lack of a better term, up for grabs to whoever wants them the most.

I believe Printworthy would be up for it. by World-Jumper on 2013-04-18 03:24:00 UTC Reply

After all, he is an author in his home fic, and his special talent is writing. If you want to use him, go right ahead.

Heheee... by Silken Dawn on 2013-04-18 15:07:00 UTC Reply

I can just see Silky going "PONY!" and running after him.

Re: Who wants a cameo? by firemagic on 2013-04-18 03:08:00 UTC Reply

Ooh! I bet Riaa, Narav, and Lana would be up for it!
Ooh! by Riese on 2013-04-17 21:17:00 UTC Reply

Mike and Kilroy are always game for Missions! Feel free to use them.
Me! Me me me! by DawnFire on 2013-04-17 18:27:00 UTC Reply

Hi :)

I'm sure Agent Dawn would be quite horrified to meet a writer of urple prose, especially if she shares part of Dawn's name (and even if she doesn't). She can also terrify Silky by being somewhat insane (ok, quite insane), constantly quoting things, and being an OFU coordinator. Alternatively, the agent bringing Silky in could run into Dawn in a corridor and tell her what's going on, and Dawn can cackle evilly (ish) and say something about how she deals with too much of that at SBEI, thanks all the same, so she won't be coming. Whatever you like.

~DF

Oh, Dawn. by Karen on 2013-04-18 02:01:00 UTC Reply

Be sure to brandish your weaponry.

Sure thing. by Agent Dawn, DMS on 2013-04-18 12:14:00 UTC Reply

...wait, are you saying I can't terrify anyone without weapons? I don't think you've been paying attention, Karen Boarder. I terrify...uh...Edgar, I think...and...um...I terrified a Klingon with a tribble? Actually, this isn't, um, going quite the way I thought it would...

Nice to meet you?

~Dawn

That's not what I imply. by Karen on 2013-04-19 00:15:00 UTC Reply

I merely mean to say that it'd be a lot funnier if you did.

Ah. by Agent Dawn, DMS on 2013-04-19 00:32:00 UTC Reply

Well, I suppose you have a point. Certainly terrified H. I'll think about it...assuming I get that cameo, that is.

Radagast on a bunny sled, this is getting very meta, isn't it? Wait, get back here!

Sorry. Dealing with a super-tribble. No, I don't get it either. Gotta run!

~Dawn

:D (nm) by Karen on 2013-04-23 22:51:00 UTC Reply

Well, you've got to admit, a super-tribble would be... by DawnFire on 2013-04-24 11:05:00 UTC Reply

...interesting, to say the least.

...actually, I never want to take on a tribble Sue. I hope they don't exist...but then again, there was the Balrog Sue...

~DF

I'm willing to bet good money there's a tribble 'Sue. by Karen on 2013-04-26 03:02:00 UTC Reply

It's out there.

WAITING.

Hm, cameo. by Desdendelle on 2013-04-17 16:06:00 UTC Reply

Agent!Des might threaten another person with bodily harm if they wrote something bad enough. He's also prone to rants. Especially if someone writes something wrong about tea (such as black and green tea being different plants. Protip: same one, Camellia Sinsesis). If you want him or his partner Anebrin to cameo, contact me; my email is sur DOT nhm AT gmail DOT com.
Two questions by Neshomeh on 2013-04-17 15:44:00 UTC Reply
1. Is there another half to that asterisk?
  
  2. Don't writers normally get sent to an OFU as punishment for bad writing? Perhaps you plan on explaining why she ends up at the PPC instead in the story, but I guess this is just a heads-up that it needs explaining. Surely someone who knows enough about the PPC to send her there would also know about OFUs, and that the PPC really doesn't deal with writers at all since the DAC shut down...?
  
  As for cameos, I don't think any of my agents are the type to put the hurt on a new recruit. ... Okay, that's not true, Gall will put the hurt on anyone for fun and profit, but I don't think she really cares about purple prose. Sorry!
  
  ~Neshomeh

Two answers by Silken Dawn on 2013-04-17 21:31:00 UTC Reply

Hi, Neshomeh!

1. There was originally another half to that asterisk, which went into greater detail about the bad, bad writing in question, but I deleted it and then forgot to remove the asterisk.

2. She wasn't writing fanfiction, but rather her own terrible stories, so that was why she didn't get sent to an OFU. But this whole idea is still in the pre-writing stage, so maybe she could get there through a plot hole in her abysmal writing. I'm definitely open to making some changes.

Hmm. by Neshomeh on 2013-04-18 15:07:00 UTC Reply

Hi!

1. Okay, no problem.

2. Hmm... in that case, I think whether it makes sense or not depends entirely on who's responsible for the decision to ship her to HQ, and their reasoning. As Ellipsis Flood said, LOTS of agents arrive by plothole, so IMO it's always nice when someone tries to get away from that. I'd say give it some thought, and if you can make it convincing, go for it. {= )

Some suggested considerations: Who is the person doing the sending? If a modern PPC agent, why do they decide this is important enough to potentially break protocol and interact with an author who isn't even messing with an established canon? (Is there actually protocol about agents contacting non-fanfic authors? I'm not sure about that.) Is it someone they know from home, perhaps a friend or relative? If they're not an agent, why do they care enough to intervene in this somewhat extreme way, and how do they know about the PPC? Either way, where/who/what precisely do they think her education is going to come from? Are they going to be involved beyond booting her through the portal/door/whatever? If not, what makes them think the plan will work?

~Neshomeh

I should (ie, want to) note... by Huinesoron on 2013-04-18 19:02:00 UTC Reply

... that Constance Sims' official backstory is that her father 'encouraged' her to join the PPC (quite possibly with a letter on her 11th birthday - she says it's 'almost true'). The currently-unofficial (because unwritten) part is that he's a published author who came into contact with the PPC that way (and apparently thinks we're a really good idea? ("I don't know why I went into this line of work; I could have been a nurse. An astrophysicist. A writer. A singer. An extra in movies. But noooo... Daddy says, 'Go into Mary Sue Assassination!' Of course! Only to me, people, only to me.")

So apparently at least a few people in World One know about the PPC. (If Silken Dawn - or anyone else looking for an origin story - wants to get really meta, what about the friend who's on this Internet forum about a 'fictional' organisation...? Bear in mind that Agent Techno-Dann joined the PPC from the Real World by emailing them, and that Nenya and Rosie appear to have found a door from World One after finishing at OFUM...)

hS

PS: Is there actually protocol about agents contacting non-fanfic authors? I'm not sure about that. I've not seen anything off the top of my head, but I know Vemi didn't talk about the PPC when she was at home...

Re: Two answers by HimochiIsAwesome on 2013-04-18 09:28:00 UTC Reply

Getting to the PPC through a plot hole that she created herself? Aha, now isn't that a funny idea. Well, it'd serve her right, I guess. I like that idea.

Re: Two answers by Ellipsis Flood on 2013-04-18 10:40:00 UTC Reply

Well, a lot of new agents come in through plot holes they somehow fall through.

Yeah, but it just seems like a fitting punishment really. by HimochiIsAwesome on 2013-04-18 14:48:00 UTC Reply

If you consider the PPC a punishment, that is.