Unsurprising...

Calling anyone with Spiderman knowhow and a strong stomach by The Trojanhorse on 2009-06-23 23:35:00 UTC Reply

Ansela pointed this fic out to me:

(NSFW, NSFB, slash, non-con, golden showers/watersports)

http://comics.adultfanfiction.net/story.php?no=600060540

and I agree with her, it needs to be killed. And I am very keeen to do so simply on bad writing, disturbingness and general biology fail. However I know nothing of Spiderman canon, and I don't think Pads does either (and she's kind of away at the moment and I have the bit between my teeth). So is there anyone out there with knowledge of the canon who'd be willing to go through a doc of the fic and note canon charges for me?

What's the plot? by thejadefalcon on 2009-06-24 17:18:00 UTC Reply

Say he with no AFF access.

Plot... um, not much of one, to be honest. by Ansela on 2009-06-24 17:43:00 UTC Reply

Doc Ock, in prison, about to be gangraped, Spidey shows up, Ock thinks he's saved but Spidey's just there to claim first go. Cue much raping. In many anatomically and physically impossible ways. Complete with bad euphemisms. And Ock deciding that his lot in life is to be nothing but a prison slut.

I can copy to a Word file or GDoc for you, if you like.

Guh? by thejadefalcon on 2009-06-27 11:12:00 UTC Reply

Err... could you copy that to Word? 'cause... guh?

Of course, it sounds better than The Rape of Mary-Jane Watson, which I've encountered.

It seems to have been hidden. by Ansela on 2009-06-27 18:00:00 UTC Reply

Disclaimer policy problems.

Oh, well... by thejadefalcon on 2009-06-30 13:03:00 UTC Reply

What's golden showers/watersports anyway? I'm guessing the former would involve urine?

Two names for the same thing. by Ansela on 2009-06-30 15:09:00 UTC Reply

And you guessed right. It's one of the things that irritates me when people don't bother to warn for it.

Unsurprising... by thejadefalcon on 2009-06-30 16:31:00 UTC Reply

It's an... aquired taste, shall we say?

The watersports one could be less ambiguous though. How does an unsuspecting fanfic newbie know that it's that and not, say, sex on a jet ski? I feel sorry for that hypothetical person. :P

I first encountered it in a Harry Potter fic on AFF. Basically, Draco, Crabbe, Goyle and I believe one other person (maybe Blaise) gangrape and beat Hermione half to death and then start pissing over her. Then Draco Obliviates her (which I thought was a bit too complex a spell for him given I think it was set in OotP) and then... you guessed it... changes the memory so Harry and Ron did it all. *headdesk* Despite the fact that everyone would know that is so supremely out of character for those two and the fact that there's bound to be a wizarding form of forensic science and that would reveal the true attackers. Duh.

Presumably newbies find out the same way I did... by Ansela on 2009-06-30 23:25:00 UTC Reply

Which is accidentally wandering into a fic with it in. I still do that now, but only when I've not been warned for it.

This doesn't surprise me much by Paladin on 2009-06-24 00:47:00 UTC Reply

Adultfanfiction.net is pretty much an unending carnival of horrors. If the PPC had any form of "kill-everything" weapon, I would warrant its use on that wretched place.

A little extreme there, I feel by The Trojanhorse on 2009-06-24 00:59:00 UTC Reply

Like ff.net, it has its good and bad authors. Just cos the latter are in the majority doesn't mean it calls for a carpet bombing :)
HEY! by Ansela Jonla on 2009-06-24 00:54:00 UTC Reply

I post to AFF, and there are several authors for my fandom that I follow there. Not everything on that site is anatomically incorrect OOC tripe.

Really? by thejadefalcon on 2009-06-27 11:14:00 UTC Reply

And here I am saying to my beta clients that anyone who posts there ruins their reputation for all eternity. I've considered it (when I had access) for some of my more adult works (non-erotic rape scenes for the sex, but mostly for gore etc), but that idea died quickly.

I think it pays to be open minded :) by The Trojanhorse on 2009-06-28 08:26:00 UTC Reply

Just like there's no such thing as a bad genre, surely it defies logic and probability for every single fic posted to such a large site as aff.net to be bad?

If it's a well-written fic, then the place it's posted surely can't 'ruin' its reception or the reputation of the author? I mean, most of us have probably at one time or another posted to ff.net, but despite the fact that the place has a reputation for being a pit of Mary-Sues, it doesn't follow that every fic there IS a Suefic :)

Yes, but to my knowledge... by thejadefalcon on 2009-06-30 13:05:00 UTC Reply

I've encountered dozens of good fics on FF.net, compared to... well, two on AFF.

Don't think so... by Sedri on 2009-06-24 00:36:00 UTC Reply

I've only seen the first Toby Maguire movie, and that was a while ago. However, you could search for the relevant media wiki - there almost certainly is one - and have a read there. It may not help you too much with OOC charges, but you'll get a lot of the facts straight.

Sorry I can't help :(

That's okay Sedri luv by The Trojanhorse on 2009-06-24 00:38:00 UTC Reply

I'm sure someone will know something ...