Agents would need to be very sure their gas masks don't slip

Question by Ansela on 2009-06-14 17:55:00 UTC Reply

This has been puzzling me for a while, so I thought I'd throw it out to the community as a whole in the hopes of getting an answer.

Neuralysers work through eye contact, correct? If you're not looking at it or have your eyes covered then you're safe from its effects.

The problem is with two characters in my main fandom. One has been blind since birth and wears a protective visor over his eyes. The other is capable of seeing, but he keeps his eyes so slitted they may as well be closed. ~~Strangely this doesn't affect his ability to fight or perform day to day tasks.~~ The two instances of him opening his eyes fully in canon suggest that he only does so during battle. Attempting to force this would be suicide for my Agents, given their strength in relation to him.

Would it be possible to neuralyse these two characters, given their situations? The latter one is especially important, since he is reasonably popular amongst Suethors.

Hmmmmm.... by Rosie Azrael on 2009-06-15 05:37:00 UTC Reply

Do you think it would be possible to modify a Neuralyser to work sonically, rather than visually? But then that would require a trip to DoSAT, wouldn't it? Meh. I've got nothing other than that...
I've got a fic like that. by Maudlin Hart on 2009-06-15 01:40:00 UTC Reply

The character who's being sought after by the Sue, whose name I will not mention because it makes me ANGRY, may or may not have eyes in this version of canon, and also wears a mask. Removing it is not an option. How?
Actually, a lot of weird things involving eyes happen in this fic, now I come to think about it.
A similar question... by Ugolino on 2009-06-14 23:05:00 UTC Reply

for Daleks. Any ideas?

Well, either the Dalek has killed the Sue by IndeMaat on 2009-06-15 09:05:00 UTC Reply

already itself. Or the Sue has turned the Dalek so it doesn't want to kill anymore.

It could be dangerous for Agents to try and put a Dalek back to his own self (nevermind how they'd do it). The moment it got fixed, it'd start to yell "exterminate!" and fire at the agents.

I'd say: let canon sort this Dalek out. If this Dalek doesn't want to kill anymore, I'm sure there are enough Daleks left that can sort him out on that one.

The Daleks, in this case,... by Ugolino on 2009-06-16 14:15:00 UTC Reply

are the Cult of Skaro. She made them more or less human in behavior but they do exactly the same evil things they do in canon. (eg. kidnapping, making Pig Slaves, new Dalek race...)

Problem is, there are only four Daleks left in this timeframe, and all of them are OOC...

I usually work with the premise by IndeMaat on 2009-06-17 15:17:00 UTC Reply

that as soon as the Sue is dead the canon snaps back to its own self.

Sounds like a case for intravenous Bleeprin in Medical. (nm) by Laburnum on 2009-06-14 20:16:00 UTC Reply

Re: Sounds like a case for intravenous Bleeprin in Medical. by Ansela on 2009-06-14 22:33:00 UTC Reply

How to get them there though, and subdue them long enough to get an IV in them? Either character is a one man army by himself, and neither of my Agents is strong enough to even think they can win any kind of struggle against them.

There's also the problem of the fact that canonically it's impossible to cut or pierce the skin of someone in this canon unless your own power level is greater than theirs, especially if they're unwilling to let you.

You know... by Chliever on 2009-06-15 02:06:00 UTC Reply

The Aura of Smooth tends to weaken canons. Do you think the fic's bad enough that either character has become weaker than your Agents?
Ooh, ooh, idea: Bleeprin gas bomb! by Laburnum on 2009-06-14 23:09:00 UTC Reply

Would solve a lot of mass-neuralysation problems as well.

Agents would need to be very sure their gas masks don't slip by Sedri on 2009-06-15 00:59:00 UTC Reply

But I'm not entirely sure that would work; doesn't Bleeprin fade out the memories that are hurting you? I thought it behaved rather differently to neuralysation.

That said if neuralysers work by shooting 'erasing rays' (for lack of better term) into someone's eye, the effect still has to reach the brain somehow. It's not the eyes, after all, which remember. Maybe you could find another 'way in'?

Very STRONG Bleeprin gas bomb? I think ... by Laburnum on 2009-06-15 01:47:00 UTC Reply

... in one of the Original Series they used Bleeprin as an added safety measure to erase Elrond's memories of molesting toddler-Arwen. I'm guessing the character's brain would figure ALL memories of the fic were hurting them and let the Bleeprin erase any memories of anything in the fic happening ...

What? by thejadefalcon on 2009-06-15 10:48:00 UTC Reply

... Elrond... and toddler Arwen? Which... which fic is that? I couldn't find it in a brief flick through.

"To Know Where You Are Going." Blergh. by Laburnum on 2009-06-15 12:42:00 UTC Reply

http://www.misssandman.com/PPC/Whatever.htm

Yeesh... by thejadefalcon on 2009-06-15 13:23:00 UTC Reply

I don't suppose anyone knows where the original is?

That makes sense. :) (nm) by Sedri on 2009-06-15 04:08:00 UTC Reply

Re: Question by khajidu on 2009-06-14 18:32:00 UTC Reply

Well, it looks like you're describing Geordi and Worf from TNG...
Geordi sees any electromagnetic wavelength, so I think it can work. Worf can see, so if he looks at you it's ok.
If it's not TNG I can't answer, though.

I was thinking Gin and Tousen myself (nm) by Chliever on 2009-06-14 18:56:00 UTC Reply

Yup (nm) by Ansela on 2009-06-14 22:41:00 UTC Reply

Re: Question by Ansela on 2009-06-14 18:33:00 UTC Reply

No, it's not TNG. I lean more towards anime than live action most of the time.