Fun with numbers!

Slain Mary Sues by Guvnor of Space on 2013-04-11 01:07:00 UTC Reply

http://ppc.wikia.com/wiki/Category:SlainMarySues

"The exact process for adding pages to this category is currently under evaluation. Please bear with us and hold off on making more Sue pages for the time being."

I think its time we decide on what we want the future of this category to look like. Any thoughts?

Re: Slain Mary Sues by KittTheCat on 2013-04-12 03:29:00 UTC Reply

I like this idea. But what I would do is sort the pictures by continuum

Pictures? by Neshomeh on 2013-04-12 17:54:00 UTC Reply

Wikia does display eight pages in the category as thumbnails below the category description (if any), but there's no way I know of to control which thumbnails are displayed. (Doesn't mean it's not possible, I just haven't personally looked into it.) Also, there are far more pages in that category than just the ones with thumbnails showing, and some of them are sorted by continuum already. You'll see the subcategories if you scroll down a bit, and all pages in the main category if you keep going.

Or, were you talking about something else?

~Neshomeh

I know the ship has long since sailed, by doctorlit on 2013-04-11 06:12:00 UTC Reply

but I'll share my opinion again, just for posterity's sake.

I don't feel that there's any problem with having lots of Sue pages as long as they're well-written and informative. I found the one that I made fun to write, and actually offered me some new insights into the mission itself.

Also, with needing a certain number of members voting in favor of giving a particular Sue a page, I suspect very few will ever meet that requirement. But I guess that's partly the intention anyway.
As I recall from the last discussion... by Neshomeh on 2013-04-11 01:44:00 UTC Reply

I think we'd nearly settled on some kind of nomination process. If I remember right, the plan was that slain Sues could be nominated to have pages by anyone other than the mission's author(s), starting at least a couple of months after the mission's release. I don't think a time frame was decided. Also, a nomination would probably need to be confirmed by some number of other people agreeing with it. I don't know what number would be appropriate, but probably more than a handful, since the idea is that Sues getting pages should be ones that stand out and stick in the community's consciousness, and/or have relevance beyond just one or two people.

~Neshomeh

Ah, yeah by Guvnor of Space on 2013-04-11 01:48:00 UTC Reply

That seems familiar now. I'm thinking at least five boarders should have to second any nomination, though that's kind of just the number that feels right, so I'm not really attached to it. And two months (60 days or so) seems like a good waiting period.

So now, the question becomes this: how do we make sure the rest of the community likes this idea? A poll, perhaps?

Poll could work. by Neshomeh on 2013-04-11 03:48:00 UTC Reply

Maybe get some more suggestions for number of people and length of time, and see if anyone has entirely different ideas, then set them up in a Google quiz thingy?

Personally, I'd like to see a few more people second a nomination, like eight or even ten. More than ten might be pushing it, but I'm just guessing. I don't know how many people read the average mission, though I'd bet more than the number that comment.

~Neshomeh

Fun with numbers! by Huinesoron on 2013-04-12 11:29:00 UTC Reply

I can't tell you how many people read any given mission - or any given post - but I can tell you that the Board averages ~350 unique IP visitors a day, and ~5500 pageviews - every day. Interestingly, this means any given IP is looking at a mere 15 pages/day.

I'm collecting the daily figures on a spreadsheet, since the Board only records them for a month. Once I've got enough to make a graph of awesome, I plan to throw them up here for entertainment.

Of course, what that really needs is someone to make a log of how many usernames we have active at any given time... hrm, off to Excel.

hS, fun with numbers!

That didn't take long. by Huinesoron on 2013-04-12 12:00:00 UTC Reply

So on the front page, ignoring various anonymice, we have 45 named posters. The only letters we don't have a name starting with are Q, U, X, Y and Z. The most common first letter is S, with seven names, followed perhaps surprisingly by K, with 5. A, B, F, G, I, J, L, O, R, V and W all have only one adherent.

Assuming that Boarders average 2 IP addresses (work/home, school/home, with some having more and some having only one), we find that ~ 100 IPs belong to posting members, while ~250 belong to non-posters, suggesting we have around ~120 non-posting lurkers during the past two weeks.

The interesting question will be: in another two weeks, with an entirely fresh front page, how many of the same names will have posted? Only time will tell...

... or looking at the previous page. Back in a tick.

Well. 45 posters between 1st-12th April, but 55 from 20th March-1st April. That includes 21 who haven't posted on the current front page, and therefore 11 of the posters on this page didn't post on the last one.

That gives a total of 66 names in the past less-than-a-month, of which a whopping 10 start with S.

~Suinesoron :P

Oooh, shiny numbers. by Neshomeh on 2013-04-12 17:00:00 UTC Reply

I'd love to see a graph—I process that sort of thing a lot better than raw numbers.

It does seem to be normal for people to lurk for quite a while before introducing themselves. I wonder how many of the lurking IPs will have stepped out of the shadows with a name in two weeks, or a month?

Whee, statistics! {= D

~Neshomeh

You can have a graph... by Huinesoron on 2013-04-12 17:03:00 UTC Reply

... when I have more numbers. :P The traffic logs only update as fast as the calender does... I suppose with a bit of work it'd be possible to make (automate?!) a breakdown of who posted when - and how many posts were made per day - ... hmm. I don't know, though...

hS

Interesting by Karen on 2013-04-12 14:05:00 UTC Reply

There are a lot of lurkers who never come forward and make themselves known. If you'd asked me, I'd have guessed they were a tenth of that number. o.O

Good work, Suinesoron.

Why not make it at least 5, but preferably more? by DawnFire on 2013-04-12 09:18:00 UTC Reply

(If that makes sense, that is.)

~DF