Re: Hi there

Subject: Re: Hi there
Author: Vejiicakes
Posted on: 2008-09-30 09:01:00 UTC

I gather that the function of most (all?) PPC agents is to establish what's wrong and set it right. My stance is more that if it's meant to be wrong, there's little sense in making it right, but perhaps worth indicating why the wrong occurred the way it did.

Being that this must be way out of the PPC's general usage, I'm soliciting for alternate ideas on how to approach a situation like this, if the one I suggested is just a lot of silliness.

(Alternatively, if the fic is meant to exaggerate or lampoon what is wrong in badfic in general, BUT it's not widely understood as such, then a PPC agent infiltration of the fic could right what went wrong with the fic's establishment of its intentional facetiousness?)

Just tossing out ideas here.

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Newb introduction and fic claim query by Vejiicakes on 2008-09-30 08:22:00 UTC Reply

[Crossposted from spam-free RP board]

Hey there, newb here. It's been a long time since I've been interested in badfic (especially ever since the fabulous FicBitches fell into inactivity) so imagine my delight that there was a yet active badfic sporking community.

I came across PPC not long ago when, on a whim, a friend of mine Googled a gem of amalgamated bad!yaoific we'd written once upon a time called "Immortality in Fickle Affection," which was listed among the unclaimed badfic on the PPC wiki. Intrigued, I decided to see what the PPC's modus operandi involved, and liked what I saw.

Anyway, the long and short of it is that I'm interested in claiming "Immortality in Fickle Affection" for myself, as it looks like no one's taken up that cause yet (*sadface*). Being one of the writers on the original fic though, I see where this could just lead to a conflict of interests--and far be it from me to harsh anyone's buzz if someone else had their sights on this one (or just the buzz-harsh of admitting to intentional--but really not troll--badfic). If not, sweet! Thing is, I don't really know that this fic is capable of (or meant for) fixing in the usual PPC style when the very body of the text is grounded firmly in the "hey, it would be kind of awesome and ...ed up if this happened next!" school of thought. A mess of genital mutilation and yaoific conventions from start to finish.

So I was thinking, what if by way of "fixing" this fic, I went in and provided direct context for every line/event/bit of characterization seen in it? The writing process of "Immortality in Fickle Affection" was passing it between Tekki and myself to try and get the other to laugh, and those lulz were generally based on exaggerated observations of the characterization and badfic tropes of 4+ years ago. Of course, this would also be explaining the jokes, and that always makes things less funny. (Of course, when the decision was made to upload it to the internet, my assumption was that the sheer ridiculousness of the text would speak for itself, but it appeared--with exceptions--not to be the case.) Thoughts? I could, instead, attempt a more by-the-book PPC fixing solution, but something tells me that it would involve a complete renovation that would render it unrecognizable.

Or if you'd just rather I not touch it and leave someone else to make with the funny on "Immortality", I can do that too. I defer to the hivemind.

Mae govannen! by Lily Winterwood on 2008-10-02 00:10:00 UTC Reply

Oh, it is brave of you to spork your own fanfic. Normally people wouldn't want to do that. It still has a little sentimental value, after all.
(but I've MSTed two of mine, so I shouldn't talk)

Anyways, have a graduated cylinder! Not only does it measure fluids, but it also has a Master's degree and a graduation cap to boot. Very handy in scientific "experiments" regarding Mary Sues and such.

Re: Mae govannen! by Vejiicakes on 2008-10-02 00:25:00 UTC Reply

Wellllll I don't know if it's a "sporking" because I'm still of the mind that the badfic in question, by dint of being intentionally horrible, is perfect [/ego] But clearly it needs some adjustment in conveying intent when its existing sporkers are pretty much just hijacking the horror!lulz that were originally written into the fic, so I hope to accomplish that! :D

Need to distance myself from the mental image of Mary Sue fluids now O_O

Well, I did mean Glitter... (nm) by Lily Winterwood on 2008-10-02 00:57:00 UTC Reply

Hah! by wingnut on 2008-10-01 09:04:00 UTC Reply

*laughs like a thing demented* I knew it.

Now that I've got that out of my system, ah, hi! *waves* Here, have a- um- *digs through pile of stuff* -a katamari! It seems vaguely appropriate. (Plus, always useful if the King goes on another bender.)

Actually, I would have treated it as Bad Slash, or… worked something out for Bad Parody, actually. Moot point, though, since I don't intend to take it (got a couple others, and… not sure about taking fics that I know the MSTs of anyway)- so I figure, go for it, once you've got permission and all.

And I see you have seen the MST! Awesome. We're… not 'round kingdomspork so much, though, these days- there was a problem with spam a while back, and we couldn't get in touch with the mod (pretty sure modship and so forth couldn't be transferred, either)- so most folks are at heartlessfics, and Lynx and Tegu's sporkings are at snakesonasora.

… We have a hivemind? Why does no one tell me these things.

Anyway. Hi, and welcome! (And Floaters has its advantages and disadvantages, too. *grin*)
Heya! by Sara on 2008-10-01 03:11:00 UTC Reply

I gift thee with an egg whisk! It's shiny, gold-plated, and whisks not only eggs, but spambots and author wraiths, too! Use it for good and not evil.

Welcome to the insanity! Enjoy your stay! XDDD
Welcome! Here's your gifts, and a friendly nudge towards DMS by Sedri on 2008-10-01 00:58:00 UTC Reply

(Because if Trojie's advertising Bad Slash, I must wave my flag for the Department of Mary Sues.)

Welcome, welcome, welcome! Have a Transdimensional Pocket Knife, a chain of butterbeer corks (functions as a necklace or a garotte), and a stuffed Animal of your choice.

Concerning your mission... the others have said most of what I'd say, on either this board or the other. I don't know if it would function as a great mission, but good on you for handling your own creation!
Welcome. Here is your plate of introductory lembas by The Trojanhorse on 2008-09-30 22:32:00 UTC Reply

Volunteering to spork your own old works is a brave notion. I'm sure you'll fit in just fine :)

Be sure to check out the Wiki's article on Permission, and maybe the FAQ for the Board; your posts seem to be duplicated for some reason.

When you make up Agent characters, don't forget the fine employment opportunities and perks available to the members of the Department of Bad Slash!

- Trojie, your friendly Board Bad Slash recruiter and giver of canonical baked goods.

Re: Welcome. Here is your plate of introductory lembas by Vejiicakes on 2008-10-01 17:31:00 UTC Reply

(Wouldn't really call the plan so much a sporking as an explanation almost, but I suppose one would have to be brave to willingly justify hydra peen XD)

Yeeeahh, about the double posting, sorry about that. I got linked to what I'm informed was the RP board from the LJ or something when the spambot was still on the loose. This seemed the more advisable place to post my intro.

Fair enough, it's all good. by The Trojanhorse on 2008-10-01 22:04:00 UTC Reply

Twas just a friendly nudge :)

*Hands over a inferno pistol* by Winter on 2008-09-30 15:16:00 UTC Reply

The Division of More Dakka has approved your request, submitted three years ago by a time-lost warp storm, for an inferno pistol, rated for melting through up to 20cm adamantium battle steel, or ten yards of conventional titanium alloy, along with five hundred rounds of ammunition. Usage of this weapon is at your discretion.

I was wondering where I had lost that warp storm... by Artic Blade on 2008-09-30 15:49:00 UTC Reply

And I'm assuming you're granting permission for the Inferno Pistol. I'm so gonna have to try it out against the Blaziken I got here.

Not quite by Winter on 2008-09-30 16:06:00 UTC Reply

The Division of More Dakka authorizes that kind of wargear on a case-by-case basis only. Besides, Blaziken is a Fire-type, so the inferno pistol's strength would be halved. I suggest requisitioning a tremor cannon from the currently unreleased Space Marine Codex and employing Blaziken's ground weakness.

Ad I use Mewtwo to counter your tremor cannon! (nm) by Artic Blade on 2008-10-01 05:34:00 UTC Reply

Winter uses Animus Speculum! by Winter on 2008-10-01 15:31:00 UTC Reply

It's super effective!

Mewtwo faints!

Nuuuuu! by Maudlin Hart on 2008-12-04 13:15:00 UTC Reply

Not the sexy purple guy!

Hi there by IndeMaat on 2008-09-30 08:42:00 UTC Reply

I think there are a few agents around that first started by PPCing one of their own fics. So there is precendence on that.

I'm a little confussed as about your intentions with the fic mission wise. Most of the PPC agents go into a fic point out what is wrong, some add how it could have been right, charge the offending parties, execute them and go home. You seem to have more of a tour guide idea. Not sure why you'd need the PPC for that.

Unless the Flowers have decided to branch out and offer tourist trips (compare those tourists that went into space).

Re: Hi there by Vejiicakes on 2008-09-30 09:02:00 UTC Reply

I gather that the function of most (all?) PPC agents is to establish what's wrong and set it right. My stance is more that if it's meant to be wrong, there's little sense in making it right, but perhaps worth indicating why the wrong occurred the way it did.

Being that this must be way out of the PPC's general usage, I'm soliciting for alternate ideas on how to approach a situation like this, if the one I suggested is just a lot of silliness.

(Alternatively, if the fic is meant to exaggerate or lampoon what is wrong in badfic in general, BUT it's not widely understood as such, then a PPC agent infiltration of the fic could right what went wrong with the fic's establishment of its intentional facetiousness?)

Just tossing out ideas here.

It occurs to me... by Huinesoron on 2008-09-30 10:48:00 UTC Reply

... that while not particularly suited for a PPC mission, your idea looks ideal for PPC training. The Department of Operations is in charge of things like the Nursery, and so is probably officially supposed to run training of Agents, too. If you want to adapt this idea into a training exercise for new recruits -- a guided tour through the mind of a badficcer, as it were -- I would consider that an interesting expansion on a previously under-explored area of the PPC. Of course, first you'd need to explain why the Nightshade has suddenly started training properly...

(Qualification: this message does not constitute official Permission. I'm just suggesting ideas you may want to consider)

hS

I like that idea by Sedri on 2008-10-01 00:52:00 UTC Reply

If nothing else, it would give some substance to the ever-ellusive "training" agents often refer to.

Re: Hi there by Vejiicakes on 2008-09-30 09:01:00 UTC Reply

I gather that the function of most (all?) PPC agents is to establish what's wrong and set it right. My stance is more that if it's meant to be wrong, there's little sense in making it right, but perhaps worth indicating why the wrong occurred the way it did.

Being that this must be way out of the PPC's general usage, I'm soliciting for alternate ideas on how to approach a situation like this, if the one I suggested is just a lot of silliness.

(Alternatively, if the fic is meant to exaggerate or lampoon what is wrong in badfic in general, BUT it's not widely understood as such, then a PPC agent infiltration of the fic could right what went wrong with the fic's establishment of its intentional facetiousness?)

Just tossing out ideas here.