Troll is back!

Subject: Troll is back!
Author: Laburnum
Posted on: 2008-07-09 10:33:00 UTC

Idiot troller is back: http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1569223/Kel iaiah

This time he's copy-pasted the profile and nearly copied the username of someone I know vaguely, and is going around posting extremely obscene reviews on sections mostly read by kids. Grr.

Can we all report him again for plagiarism and obscenity? Somehow?

Meanwhile, in order to take care of the damage he's already done, I'd like to plug this (legitimately this time, I was angry last time and posted it without accompanying rantage): http://www.fanfiction.net/topic/2872/60 30605/1/

It's a petition for the ability to delete signed reviews, since the Pit mods were assheaded enough to give us the option to report obscene reviews and then proceeded to do precisely nothing when we do.

Are there any other places I can report this and spread the word?

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Troll is back! by Laburnum on 2008-07-09 10:33:00 UTC

IT'S GONE! YAY! by Laburnum on 2008-07-14 19:51:00 UTC Reply

Well, now ffnet's made me a liar, because I might as well go back now they've actually dealt with the problem in less than a year. Looks like sending fifty emails a day to the support team works.
That does it. A) I'm quitting ffnet, B) made the troll comm. by Laburnum on 2008-07-12 16:44:00 UTC Reply

I don't want any more to do with that site, at least until some more people in the section at least try to do something. I'm sick of seeing people sitting around whining about the troll and me being the only one apparently doing anything to stop it.

Even so, I still made the troll-reporting comm, in case anyone wants it.

http://community.livejournal.com/ffnet_patroll/

It's not going to happen, though by Sedri on 2008-07-13 09:11:00 UTC Reply

Angry as we might be at FF.N, it's simply the largest and most accessible place for fanbrats, so it accumulates most of our internet community's lowlifes. I won't defend the management because I don't have enough experience with them, but I don't personally hold them entirely responsible. Note "entirely".

I centralise my work on livejournal, but for publicity I post on FFN. For me, it's just practical. *shrugs*

Good luck, though. I'll try to help the patrol comm when I can, but I'm not on FFN often or deeply enough to really encounter them.

Any reports at all will help. by Laburnum on 2008-07-13 16:42:00 UTC Reply

Even if you can't report every one.

I don't get why I stayed that long. Am I really so stupid or stubborn as to stay in a place that's that badly run? Doesn't the behaviour of the morons cancel out the convenience? If a human was treating me the way that site treats everyone on it, I'd be an idiot to stay around them. I guess I just stuck around out of stubborness (does that need one or two n's?)

Two, I think, and personally I see it as a machine by Sedri on 2008-07-14 00:52:00 UTC Reply

Not a vindictive, cruel entity, human or no. *shrugs* Maybe that's why I never started calling it 'The Pit' the way most PPCers do; it's an automatic posting machine that a lot of people use and misuse, so I tend not to become angry with it. *shrugs* 'tis just the way I think.

Even so, I'm not staying in a place ... by Laburnum on 2008-07-14 02:36:00 UTC Reply

... where it's okay to treat my friends like that, or to send rape threats to eleven-year-old kids (I know, the eleven-year-olds shouldn't be on there, but the fact is they are and that doesn't make it okay to send sick threats to them).

Agreed about THAT by Sedri on 2008-07-14 23:50:00 UTC Reply

It's never okay. Still, I'm staying, if only for the advertising. To each his (her!) own.

Actually I'm going back now it's gone. by Laburnum on 2008-07-15 18:28:00 UTC Reply

*blush* Never fails, I get all psyched up to do something and suddenly my reason becomes irrelevant.

Will make note. Sending fifty emails a day when there's a problem DOES work.

Wait, he's changed the fic-spamming account ... by Laburnum on 2008-07-10 22:54:00 UTC Reply

http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1569278/Kelilah

How much spare time does this guy HAVE?!
I have already tried... by Luana Starlight on 2008-07-10 21:01:00 UTC Reply

I emailed the admin about him with a full list of everything I had seen from him. Several points:

* he was being very profane

* he was abusing the author ("you should just commit suicide and rid the world of your pathetic self")

* his reviews weren't even about the stories

This was several weeks ago and I am not sure if anything was done about this. Maybe if more people made complaints, they would actually do something.

Let's spam the hell out of the mods with our complaints. by Laburnum on 2008-07-10 22:11:00 UTC Reply

Maybe if they open their inbox to a few thousand complaints they'll pay attention. I've sent a few dozen copies of a complaint to them today and I'll keep doing so until something is done.

His other account is posting graphic child-rape scenes with summaries and titles copy-pasted from real fics to "disguise" them. Interesting how they ignore this yet if you put up a PG-13 fic featuring two uses of the f-word they'll come down on you like a ton of bricks.

Think we should set up an lj comm and/or Pit forum just for tracking down and reporting trolls?

A good idea. I just sent two emails. by Sedri on 2008-07-11 01:37:00 UTC Reply

Perhaps we can nag the FFN mods to watch this LJ community (or a forum), so we can report for them that way? If we imply that it'll save their inboxes, they might just do it.

I've sent over fifty. by Laburnum on 2008-07-11 09:57:00 UTC Reply

Let them see how it feels.

I was thinking of setting up an LJ community devoted to watching for trolls on the Pit. Members pledge to send at least one report for EVERY troll that shows up, report trolls as soon as they show up (moderated comm, so we can check that the troll isn't just someone the poster has a grudge against), and everyone on the comm floods the support inbox with reports of each troll as it's reported. Would that stand a chance of working?

Sounds interesting. by Inkling on 2008-07-11 13:39:00 UTC Reply

I think it'd depend on if the mods ever check the support inbox and how many people join.

Imagine logging on one day and seeing a few hundred reports for the same troll. Heh.

Shall we try it? (nm) by Laburnum on 2008-07-11 15:31:00 UTC Reply

We could try sparky's mailbomber to send mass roports (nm) by Fichunter on 2008-07-11 17:18:00 UTC Reply

Could work, but I think we'd get banned ... by Laburnum on 2008-07-11 17:41:00 UTC Reply

Isn't that illegal or something?

Eh. I'm ceasing to care. I don't want to be associated with a place where it's effectively okay to send death threats to kids. If we can't fix it, I'm using that auto-spam thing to send porn to the support address and cutting my losses ... well, cutting my losses at least, I don't know if I'd dare to do the other bit, but it's fun to dream.

eh. Technically it's not by Fichunter on 2008-07-15 14:07:00 UTC Reply

As John Mccain is using this program to send mass form-email to literally millions of people. We are using this program for a slightly *eviler* purpose. Miss Cam's version of evil, not expose little kids to visual horrors like goatse.

Oh and July, don't call me on my past. Yes I am a troll; But I'm an ethical one. I only troll fundies(Extremests-any flavor), Pedophiles (except for those from spain, japan,and mexico where the ages of consent are lower((15, 12, and recently raised to 13))(((yes, in that order July))) and political hacks.

And possibly extreme radio stations(I shall never understand the connection between baptist radio and crazy trollableness)
I think it'd fizzle out after a while by Sedri on 2008-07-12 02:20:00 UTC Reply

We do become angry over this sort of thing, but after a while the energy goes out of the fight, just as you say. I would never end up doing anything for a reporting community, anyway - I just don't have the time.

Maybe ignoring him will do some good.

*smites enter key* (nm) by Fichunter on 2008-07-11 17:19:00 UTC Reply

Works for me by Luana Starlight on 2008-07-10 22:21:00 UTC Reply

I can't stand seeing people do this. How many people would be willing to do something like this?

Someone who lives in his mother's basement ... by Laburnum on 2008-07-10 22:34:00 UTC Reply

... and is desperate for any sense of superiority he can get from anywhere, so he gets it by sending death and rape threats to eleven-year-old kids.

If not for the fact that I don't want to provoke him and I wouldn't be able to see him cry, I'd send a message to him saying "You think I'm worthless? That's interesting, because last time I checked I am the one who had a tested IQ of 120, eight GCSEs at grade B or above, probably four A levels of similar grades though I haven't got the results yet, a conditional offer to a wonderful college, money in my bank account, family who love me very much even though they will not put up with me living in their basement into my thirties, and an entertaining and creative hobby which I enjoy with my many good friends in between work and other hobbies such as caring for my pets - who, I may add, are perfectly healthy and happy and going to remain so despite your verbal spewings against me and them ... and YOU were the one who thinks that the most productive use of your time is to spend day after day sending obscene and pointless messages to complete strangers."

You just described everyone on the somethingawful forums by Fichunter on 2008-07-11 17:12:00 UTC Reply

and every griefer on the net.

So do you have any idea how to get rid of the idiot? (nm) by Laburnum on 2008-07-11 17:37:00 UTC Reply

Unfortunately, just because we might be able by Sedri on 2008-07-11 01:41:00 UTC Reply

to understand why he does it doesn't change what he's done. Call me cruel, but I'd be glad to kick him no matter how desperate he is, because it might just give him the push he needs to go out and improve his life instead of blaming the world, making himself a victim and ruining things for other people.

*sigh* Sorry, I ramble. But I know how you feel. There are times I just want to shove into their faces the fact that I have gone from a similar state to them (though thankfully never that dreadful) to having a great life, BECAUSE I CHOSE TO DO SO. If all he's after is a sense of superiority, he's never going to be happy no matter what he does.

And yeah; for me it boils down to the fact that he can ruin his own life as much as he wants - it's the only way he'll learn - but when he spoils things for others, my sympathy is gone.

... I'm in a cruel mood right now. I need to go and write a mission...

I still won't send it, it'll just make him send more tripe. by Laburnum on 2008-07-11 09:51:00 UTC Reply

And I won't be able to see him sob pathetically from the other end of an internet connection, so it'll take out all the fun.

Probably best not to provoke, anyway by Sedri on 2008-07-12 02:18:00 UTC Reply

Better to imagine the sobs, instead. *wicked grin*

And here he is again! by Laburnum on 2008-07-10 16:57:00 UTC Reply

http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1569278/Kelilah That page currently has no NWS pictures on it, but he'll probably add one in a few minutes. This one isn't review-spamming, but he's posting page after page of spam with stolen titles and summaries.
A little NSFB warning would've been nice, thanks. by pigeonarmy on 2008-07-10 03:30:00 UTC Reply

That pic...*shudders*...

Get that guy destroyed right away. PLEASE.

That hadn't been there earlier. by JulyFlame on 2008-07-10 04:32:00 UTC Reply

So you know.

Also, for your education on horrific things, that image is Goatse, part of the Unholy Trinity.

....Which isn't as horrible as I had thought it would be, actually.

No, it wasn't there when I first looked. REALLY sorry! NWS! (nm) by Laburnum on 2008-07-10 11:02:00 UTC Reply
Re: That hadn't been there earlier. by pigeonarmy on 2008-07-10 06:25:00 UTC Reply

"....Which isn't as horrible as I had thought it would be, actually."

Ma'am, you frighten me immensely.

Well... by JulyFlame on 2008-07-10 06:57:00 UTC Reply

You see, I had already seen the other two images of the Unholy Trinity, and I thought goatse was far worse than it turned out to be.

But it is massively inappropriate and should get that troll off FF.Net.

I ask - how? Do we email the admin? by Sedri on 2008-07-10 09:50:00 UTC Reply

Or is there a handy "Report Abuse" button somewhere on the bio page that I just can't find?

Email "support at fanfiction dot com". by Laburnum on 2008-07-10 19:09:00 UTC Reply

Punctuate as appropriate.

Thanks - sorry for posting my question twice (nm) by Sedri on 2008-07-11 01:28:00 UTC Reply

I don't care - that's SICK. How do I report him? by Sedri on 2008-07-10 06:22:00 UTC Reply

I can't find any handy "report abuse" button on his/her profile.

You have to email the mods directly ... by Laburnum on 2008-07-10 13:45:00 UTC Reply

... at support @ fanfiction . com (take out the spaces - I don't know why I'm protecting THEM from spambots, but I'm hoping they'll actually be able to find the legitimate complaints in their inbox if I do).

Re: Troll is back! by Eni on 2008-07-09 16:58:00 UTC Reply

*sighs and starts reporting* I'll get some of my RL friends involved... Can't they keep this stuff out of the children's section?
~Eni,
Whoops, excuse the odd sentence. by Laburnum on 2008-07-09 10:34:00 UTC Reply

The bit about "posting it legitimately" is because I copy-pasted from fanficrants - which the mod is still deleting it from because apparently I broke some other rule. Gah. And the troll's page is actually http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1569223/Keliaiah - 'scuse my typos.

Yep by Fichunter on 2008-07-09 14:09:00 UTC Reply

Its a \b-tard troll alright. What with the goatse mention and all. The tone reminds me of the anon posts of encyclopediadramatica.com; sarcastic, sick, and not tolerable anywhere else.

I gathered. by Laburnum on 2008-07-09 14:26:00 UTC Reply

I think this is the same guy from last time - and I'm pretty sure it was him who tried to sign me up for over one hundred and thirty unwanted Neopets accounts and got every one of them banned for profanity before I even got the confirmation emails. Thank God for the "To never receive Neopets email at this address again click here" button.

What upsets me is the Redwall section has a high proportion of eleven- and twelve-year-old members who sneaked past the radar, and is probably read by kids as young as eight who haven't joined yet. This stuff isn't appropriate anywhere, but especially not there.