Subject: Re: My $2
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Posted on: 2014-05-23 03:15:00 UTC
I was thinking in a similar line... if it isn't illogical to have them missing, they won't be in the fic.
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Suddenly, I thought of something: by
on 2014-05-23 00:42:00 UTC
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You know, I was just thinking of different characters who have a certain resistance to the Sue-fluence (if that's what it's still called), and something hit me. Gimli and Eowyn are both usually ignored/belittled by the authors of Sue-fics, and both are said to be resistant to the Sue-fluence.
Then I said to myself, "self, there are two characters from Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha--Alisa and Suzuka--who do not feature in the missions that I have read. Rather, they choose to focus on the main characters, or on really stupid OCs. Therefore, would they have OOC-Resistance?" And then, I realized that there are many, many other characters who are disregarded or ignored by suethors, in many, many canons that I could not even begin to name. Are all these characters OOC-Resistant?
If you followed my train of thought without too much of a headache, post with your position. If you found what I said too confusing, you can, I don't know, get on with your life? -
It's more than not being included in badfic. by
on 2014-05-23 17:19:00 UTC
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To use the example of Gimli, he's part of the Fellowship, and nearly always appears alongside the rest in a Tenth Walker fic. It's the fact that he remains (usually, mostly) himself despite being touched by the badfic's words--and the fact that happened consistently through dozens and dozens of LotR missions--that make him "OOC Resistant."
Personally, I feel a character should show up in numerous missions, consistently remaining in-character in the face of the author's Words, before we tack the OOC resistance label on them. -
Well... by
on 2014-05-23 12:42:00 UTC
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IIRC OOC Resistance is a special trait. Like 99 said, characters ignored by the Suethor will be in-character because there's nothing to drive them out of it; to take an example from my recent mission, Bruenor Battlehammer, Catti-brie, Jarlaxle and Artemis Entereri are all IC despite being from the Drizzt series because they don't appear in that particular "fic" I sporked; I don't think any of the above characters merit OOC Resistance, which is usually reserved to powerful beings such as Elrond and the Valar or consistently-ignored characters such as Gaspode the Wonder Dog, the TARDIS or Gimly.
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I see by
on 2014-05-23 16:17:00 UTC
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Well, that's good to know…
How do you ignore the TARDIS, anyway?
And could you help me catch that mini-Balrog? -
Oh, whoops by
on 2014-05-23 17:41:00 UTC
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-Dons oven mittens, gets some bacon-
Here, Gimly, here, who's a cute miniature malignant spirit?
Ahem. Anyway. Most Suethors don't ignore the TARDIS per se; rather, they ignore her as a semi-sentient (at the very least) character. -
Ah, got it by
on 2014-05-27 13:37:00 UTC
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I must be going now, I think Sakura Kyoko figured out where I am. I must now run and hide. I will post on here again someday, and maybe I'll have finally finished that prototype interlude.
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My $2 by
on 2014-05-23 02:26:00 UTC
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I'd imagine characters who don't receive attention from the Sue (positive or negative) would be in character.
THE EMPEROR PROTECTS! -
That does make sense by
on 2014-05-23 16:18:00 UTC
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By the by, who does the Emperor protect?
- The Emperor Protects his loyal Imperial Citizens. by on 2014-05-23 23:28:00 UTC Reply
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Agreed. by
on 2014-05-23 03:34:00 UTC
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Except Aslan. He, technically, can't get out of character. It's automatically Tashlan.
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Re: My $2 by
on 2014-05-23 03:15:00 UTC
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I was thinking in a similar line... if it isn't illogical to have them missing, they won't be in the fic.
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Hmm. by
on 2014-05-23 01:13:00 UTC
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I don't think so. The reason that some characters are "immune" to the Suefluence seems to be more attributed to a lack of positive attention by Suethors rather than the character's own volition or will. Likewise, many characters seem immune to OOC-ness due to a lack of attention.
This is just my observation, anyways :0 -
Everyone seems to be thinking along the same lines. by
on 2014-05-23 16:20:00 UTC
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It does make sense.