Re: I'm not entirely sure what you're describing.

Subject: Re: I'm not entirely sure what you're describing.
Author: zdimensia
Posted on: 2014-05-08 22:38:00 UTC

((I'm interpreting the backstory here as: PPC Agents go into a Suefic, charge a Sue, and then the author of the original badfic intervenes, rewriting the badfic as an AU to put the Agents sent to kill it off of their jurisdiction))

Somehow, there is a mixup and the agents are sent into a deliberate author-inhabited playground... I'm not sure how to describe it beyond the title, perhaps masturbatory and literary enema might help reinforce how it's less a god-mode Sue and more an eldritch abomination inhabiting a daydream. Seriously, it would be like wandering onto a god's chessboard and surviving because it is amusing.

(( sending one of the characters from the original story into the PPC, giving that emissary a mobile phone to report to the author's avatar about other Sues and... her reactions to them?
Is this what you were going for? There was also something about video games, which didn't really fit into the rest, unless Tripe is a video game and also the continuum that the ex-Sue would come from.))

My avatar from that world (Tripe) is aware of the Sues she has created, and offers one as a recruit... from an unpublished rewrite of a fanction of the video-game. She's slightly better off than https://www.fanfiction.net/s/1690622/1/Don-t-Panic because she realizes where she is right away, even if she makes a stupid mistake, and she speaks their language.

Basically the Sue-agent has a low glitter-level and wouldn't be more than the catalyst of a random what-if except that there are Rules about Destiny.

My proposal for turning her into an agent... One of her defaults is to wonder why she couldn't be a typical Sue and have kickass powers... instead of spending a week in pants-wetting fear about being eaten, then having to deal with being a relatively weak vampire fledgeling.

Basically, I want to have her aware of what she is and where she came from.

I realize that being able to send emails to your creator and occasionally getting some back might be a bit breaky, which is why I want quarters-only and subject to censorship or lost messages.

As for the binder full of useful data that she didn't know about before, I suppose the terminals have internet access.

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Hello and questions by zdimensia on 2014-05-05 19:06:00 UTC Reply

I signed up mostly to ask one question, but I'm also interested in playing in a Sue Hunter universe.

I was wondering where the list of fics were to see if the Legacy of Kain fandom got any hunter fics from this group.

As someone who got interested in participating, are there any tips for painlessly navigating this board?

Perhaps getting ahead of myself, I do have some ideas of what I would like to contribute.

One being to help with the paperwork on one of my own Sues, (arguing that she's probably already where she can't do any harm,) to set up the sporking, (including apology and justification for one scene, while warning the agents not to look.)

Another would be to have two of my other Sues arguing, one being part of the support group.

Found my fandom. Making my agent. by zdimensia on 2014-05-07 17:46:00 UTC Reply

This took several days of wiki-hopping to find.
http://starshadowhall.tripod.com/ppc/lok/#top I'd love to find the original story of that one.

It looks like he is inactive, so I'd like to offer my Sue for consideration.

She was a real-world person that got sucked into a video game. Her powers are that she can draw recognizably, has a freakish memory for things she has put the effort into noticing and memorizing, (notably the canon events of the five games,) and her presence in a particular world causes the rules about Destiny to go haywire.

Since then, she has become an ordinary vampire sired by Janos Audron. When working in other incarnations of that universe, she will lie and say she is Vorador's childe instead of his much younger sister. (She is about equal to Umah and the traitors.)

She is old enough to tolerate sunlight, but prefers to avoid it. She is very sensitive to water, blessed or not, but does not have issue with religious places or symbols. She is mildly telekinetic, as in a weapon isn't out-of-reach until it's a yard away, and she can draw blood into her mouth from body at about three yards. I haven't decided what her unique "Dark Gift" would be, but it is not combat-related. She will need training in non-lethal unarmed combat and how to use weapons offensively.

She would seem a little sociopathic and aloof. She hasn't interacted with humans as equals for centuries, so will take time for her mannerisms around them to seem natural.

Is this allowable for an agent? by zdimensia on 2014-05-08 17:09:00 UTC Reply

I'm thinking about making my agent's joining of the PPC be that she came through my forth-wall-aware Self-Insert-
Authoress-Tripe. Agents come in with a charge-list a mile long, my avatar and the character replacements work to convince them that containing the badness in a blatant AU is useful, and that I could just create another world and clog up the continuity. Basically it would part of the Tripe universe because of the first-person of my avatar, but I would request a beta from a PPC member even if it isn't canon to this group.

My agent is a Sue that was handed over as a consolation prize. I would like my agent to have some things from that follow her into the PPC universe from that story.

I'd like her to be self-aware that she is a Sue, and remember the circumstances that brought her to PPC.

I'd like to give her a magic cell-phone from that universe, preferably make it not work outside of her quarters, so that she can email my avatar whenever she gets jealous of other Sues. It might be that most return emails get lost because of censoring.

I'd like to give her a binder full of things about the video game that she wouldn't have looked up before getting sucked into it. Q&A with the developers, information about cancelled games, and research into deleted content, mostly.

I'm not entirely sure what you're describing. by Outhra on 2014-05-08 21:47:00 UTC Reply

I'm interpreting the backstory here as: PPC Agents go into a Suefic, charge a Sue, and then the author of the original badfic intervenes, rewriting the badfic as an AU to put the Agents sent to kill it off of their jurisdiction and sending one of the characters from the original story into the PPC, giving that emissary a mobile phone to report to the author's avatar about other Sues and... her reactions to them?
Is this what you were going for? There was also something about video games, which didn't really fit into the rest, unless Tripe is a video game and also the continuum that the ex-Sue would come from.

I can't comment on the backstory as whole, because I'm not sure if I got it right, but here's a few comments on the parts that are indisputably part of it:
Just because a badfic is an AU doesn't mean that it can't be sporked and can't be targeted for destruction. There's a Department of Improbable AUs that gets rid of those. It isn't as popular among the Boarders as the other Action Departments are, so it's not mentioned often, but if a badfic was classified as a Suefic and turned into or turned out to be an AU fic, it would be treated more or less the same, except the DMS Agents would need to be replaced with or joined by DIAU Agents. You said the Sue was given to the PPC to become an Agent as a "consolation prize", so I'm not sure if that means that she was created by the author avatar to placate the PPC and convince them not to follow her, or as a recruit from the new AU, or if the Sue was the protagonist of the original Suefic given over to PPC custody to show good faith, or what exactly is going on there.

An author avatar doesn't usually interact with the PPC to defend their Sue. I don't know if the author is usually in-universe aware that the PPC are in their story at all, since we try our hardest not to show the out-of-universe versions our sporking lists, and in the one exception I could find, the author avatar was so upset with his Stu self-insert that he killed it himself. Would there be any particular reason for your exception here?

BTW, the SIAT I keep talking about. by zdimensia on 2014-05-08 23:20:00 UTC Reply

Wholly deliberate bad-fic, properly labeled. https://www.fanfiction.net/s/6639591/1/Self-Indulgent-Authoress-Tripe

This is what I suggest as a mistake to send agents into. I don't suggest reading it when sober, unless being drunk makes badfic worse.

The Sue that I give them is from Drop a Stone, but from the sixth or so unpublished rewrite, the first version has unwarned rape.
Star Trek example by zdimensia on 2014-05-08 23:09:00 UTC Reply

I once read a trade paperback where Trelane from ST:TOS was some form of Q from ST:TNG. If an effortless Q is a full author, my avatar from Self-Insert-Authoress-Tripe is pretending to be dependent on a training machine like Trelane. (In-universe, she suffers nosebleeds depending on the amount of effort she expends, and how much a Deus-ex-machina is warranted.)
Re: I'm not entirely sure what you're describing. by zdimensia on 2014-05-08 22:38:00 UTC Reply

((I'm interpreting the backstory here as: PPC Agents go into a Suefic, charge a Sue, and then the author of the original badfic intervenes, rewriting the badfic as an AU to put the Agents sent to kill it off of their jurisdiction))

Somehow, there is a mixup and the agents are sent into a deliberate author-inhabited playground... I'm not sure how to describe it beyond the title, perhaps masturbatory and literary enema might help reinforce how it's less a god-mode Sue and more an eldritch abomination inhabiting a daydream. Seriously, it would be like wandering onto a god's chessboard and surviving because it is amusing.

(( sending one of the characters from the original story into the PPC, giving that emissary a mobile phone to report to the author's avatar about other Sues and... her reactions to them?
Is this what you were going for? There was also something about video games, which didn't really fit into the rest, unless Tripe is a video game and also the continuum that the ex-Sue would come from.))

My avatar from that world (Tripe) is aware of the Sues she has created, and offers one as a recruit... from an unpublished rewrite of a fanction of the video-game. She's slightly better off than https://www.fanfiction.net/s/1690622/1/Don-t-Panic because she realizes where she is right away, even if she makes a stupid mistake, and she speaks their language.

Basically the Sue-agent has a low glitter-level and wouldn't be more than the catalyst of a random what-if except that there are Rules about Destiny.

My proposal for turning her into an agent... One of her defaults is to wonder why she couldn't be a typical Sue and have kickass powers... instead of spending a week in pants-wetting fear about being eaten, then having to deal with being a relatively weak vampire fledgeling.

Basically, I want to have her aware of what she is and where she came from.

I realize that being able to send emails to your creator and occasionally getting some back might be a bit breaky, which is why I want quarters-only and subject to censorship or lost messages.

As for the binder full of useful data that she didn't know about before, I suppose the terminals have internet access.

Greetings! by eatpraylove on 2014-05-06 01:48:00 UTC Reply

So tell us more about yourself. What kinds of things do you do for fun? What are your fandoms? Do you tend to value characters, plot, interaction, or shipping in a story you like? What's a Sue Hunter universe?

Anyway, welcome to the PPC! Have some popcorn and a Captain America plush. (Yes, they exist.) As far as tips go, my best advice is to be polite, follow the three links at the top of the page, and ask questions any time you're confused.

Re: Greetings! by zdimensia on 2014-05-07 00:45:00 UTC Reply

Sue-Hunter universes are a themed collection of fictions. Like AMSCES and PPG.

I suppose I like interaction the best and shipping the least. My fandom is Legacy of Kain almost exclusively.

I actually am still a Sue-thor. I'm currently in my umpteenth rewrite of something that just will not work without the main character being a Sue. Granted, I'm using a pretty weird definition. She looks like a self-insert and her only power is breaking a specific aspect of the universe. And breaking the universe is only beneficial to her because being a Macguffin is better than being lunch.

Ahead again, and another group of Sue-hunters. by zdimensia on 2014-05-05 23:46:00 UTC Reply

I've actually started cooking a fic... it will probably take me more than a month to work out, and can sit on my harddrive for much longer until I earn rights to uploading the Alpha.

The basic outline is that PPG drop into my story titled "Self-Insert-Authoress-Tripe" and discover that the canon characters would have already killed the avatar if they really wanted to not exist.

I would also be using it to introduce a Mary-Sue turned-agent. Basically a peace offering and diplomat.

Would it be okay to make a jab at "The Anti-Cliche and Mary-Sue Elimination Society" Basically, they would be why the Self-Insert knows about Sue-hunters. (If someone wants an easy bad-fic, their submission to LOK had nothing to do with the category.)

If I'm understanding correctly... by Ekyl on 2014-05-06 10:38:00 UTC Reply

The PPC and ACMSES communities have actually interacted before, and common consensus if I recall right is that they're mutually non-canonical - the ACMSES doesn't exist in PPC-verse, and vice versa. I could be wrong though.

Warm hugs by Seychelles on 2014-05-05 23:34:00 UTC Reply

Take this Attack On Titan jackect, and Eran plushie

New mini alert! by eatpraylove on 2014-05-06 01:39:00 UTC Reply

Congratulations, you found a Mini-Titan! Be extra careful with this one; Titans are strong, nasty, and kind of dumb.
*mini-Titan lunges at my leg* DOWN, boy! *kick*

(For reference, the main character's name is officially Eren Yeager. You might see his last name spelled the German way--Jaeger--which is a valid alternative. Sorry I killed the moment!)

Dear Lord I'm Sorry by Seychelles on 2014-05-06 18:18:00 UTC Reply

-Standing on a chair so the Titan can't get me-

I hate Titans. Their like zombies (which were scary enough) but ten times bigger. Why did you have to give me nightmares Japan?

Although at this size Eran looks kinda cute...

Welcome! by World-Jumper on 2014-05-05 22:36:00 UTC Reply

I'll go ahead and give your questions a shot.

I don't think there are any missions in Legacy of Kain. We're a multi-fandom organization, but there are many, many fandoms without any missions for them at all. Heck, even major fandoms like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles are not represented at all. However, there is a way to fix this: write one yourself! However to do that, you need permission. If you are not familiar with the permission process... Actually, I'd wait a bit to familiarize yourself. We're in the middle of changing it, you see.

Painless way to use the Board? Nothing more then what you probably already know. You can use HTML tags in posts, to bold, italicize, ~~strike through,~~ and much more. Other then that, either make sure you're logged in or enter your username every time you post. Funnily enough, just entering it manually each time is, in a way, easier. The log-in feature is a little buggy at times. Just so you know.

Oh, thank goodness. The paperwork is really quite extensive, utterly massive it is. Normally, the Spies just write up a basic report that can usually be boiled down into OH GOD WHY, and sent to Agents to be killed. However, with a particular Time Lord agent insisting on all paperwork being filled and filed properly, we have to do things proper. Now, if you get started on filling out form MST-3k, I can wrap up with R1-ff and SP0-rk.

However, before you get started with that, I have to give you a gift! It's a thing we do around here, don't question it. Anyway, I give you: an enchanted quill! This quill writes down what you say aloud, with flawless spelling and grammar. However, if you want to break a law of grammar for stylistic effect, the quill has some trouble writing that down. It can, it just won't be happy about it. Now, why don't you test out that quill on these files, hmm?
Hi! by Iximaz on 2014-05-05 21:21:00 UTC Reply

You get a barking rhinoceros! Make sure to feed him plenty of Sues! (Not your own, though.)

Poor barking Rhino by zdimensia on 2014-05-05 21:40:00 UTC Reply

You might want to take the rhinoceros away before it starves... I keep running into Sues that I like reading about. (I don't read fics with poor formatting.)

Welcome! (Second post! Whee!) by Legacy on 2014-05-05 20:03:00 UTC Reply

Have a fluffy velociraptor to commemorate you arrival here at the PPC Posting Board!

in answer to question number 4/5, Sues joining is great. (My Agent is a former Stu, himself.) And although it's not really been explored before, I'd absolutely love to see two Sues getting into a fight. >:D

Enjoy your stay at the PPC, zdimensia!
*waves* by Ailavyn Siniyash on 2014-05-05 19:56:00 UTC Reply

Hello and welcome!

I hereby give to you a lined Infinite Notebook, complete with urple covers and wilver bindings. Avert your eyes!

-Aila