Subject: Ewoks, I think (nm)
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Posted on: 2014-04-26 23:45:00 UTC
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Help Needed- The Mary Sue Rehabilitation Clinic by
on 2014-04-25 05:45:00 UTC
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So, I have an idea. What if there were a clinic that took Mary Sues and rehabilitated them into real characters?
Thus, the Mary Sue Rehabilitation Clinic.
Ideas- Run by Parody Sues, Redeemed Sues, and Canon Characters
-Uses Humiliation Therapy
-Uniforms look good with absolutely nothing
- Sues able to keep one relatively minor special ability, but have reality applied to whatever attribute they intend to keep (such as a Sue with super strength suffering from super recoil, or a cat girl sue needing special therapy to not act catlike)
- Lessons on proper fashion, friendships and so such
This idea is not intended to have anything to do with the PPC, due to its emphasis on redeeming Sues instead of killing them, but I would like help and feedback. I'm pretty sure I couldn't pull this off alone. -
I like that idea by
on 2014-04-26 15:28:00 UTC
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Sounds like something that I had in mind for one of the characters I have in mind for my PPC agents. One of them is going to be a redeemed Sue, but she has memory loss and stuff.
I think this Mary Sue Rehabilitation Clinic is a good idea. Go for it! -
Re: Sue Rehab by
on 2014-04-25 20:10:00 UTC
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I'm pretty sure that's what FicPsych's Sue Support Group is for, but...it sounds like a great idea! Let me bounce a few little ideas of my own off of yours:
-The uniforms would be sweatpants and an orange T-shirt. I doubt even the most super of supermodel Sues can rock that look.
-"My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic" would be required viewing as part of the "lessons on friendship". Yes, even for warrior-Sues/Gary Stus.
-Normal classes to boost their tiny Sue-brains. Schoolhouse Rock videos optional. XD
Many of your ideas wouldn't be out of place in an Official Fanfiction University curriculum. Granted, OFUs train writers rather than redeem Sues, but it's the principle of the thing: Learning Through Pain and Literal Metaphors. -
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on 2014-04-25 20:40:00 UTC
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This group is more about redeeming the general Sues, the kind the PPC normally kill. That's why the MSRC is not affiliated with the PPC.
Love your ideas. I was thinking originally a simple hospital gown in the ugliest color imaginable, but the sweatpants-and-orange-t-shirt would be great. I'll make the sweatpants purple for maximum effect. After all, the idea is to counteract the Sues' natural beauty.
The FiM thing is great. I think that I'll make 'friendship classes' a part of the main curriculum, so that the Sues learn how to really interact.
I was thinking of normal Sue-classes anyways, because all except one Sue-attribute will be stripped from them, including their unrealistic (supposed) intellect.
Humiliation Therapy, as the name suggests, focuses on embarrassing the Sues rather than causing them physical pain (although it causes an awful lot of the latter). -
OH GOOD LORD by
on 2014-04-25 19:41:00 UTC
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I had this. Exact. IDEA. HOW DID YOU DO THAT?!?
I had a character named Nurse Winters, who was frequently being killed only to pop up later none the worse for wear. It was played for laughs, in contrast to the series' underlying storyline.
Looking back, I'm not sure as to why, but I had built the clinic itself to resemble a giant stuffed rabbit's head. Make of this what you will. If it's that I'm messed up, I knew that already. -
Interesting, but I see a problem. by
on 2014-04-25 06:15:00 UTC
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Namely, that Sues are typically immune to humiliation. Anybody who disagrees with or disapproves of a Mary Sue is obviously mean or stupid or evil or repressive, etc., so why should the Sue listen to them? She is obviously kinder/smarter/better/stronger, so their words are to be stoically ignored (or prettily angsted about, if her LO is around to console her) while she proceeds to do exactly as she pleases. Same goes for the males, too, of course.
I'm not sure what to suggest as an alternative. Repeated applications of logic and consequences, perhaps? The clinic would have to be set somewhere like a Reality Room, where the Sue can't simply exert her will to change things to her liking.
~Neshomeh, who is up late tonight. -
Humiliation by
on 2014-04-25 20:43:00 UTC
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The humiliation is supposed to be the kind that works just as well when Sue's alone. Also, all of their roommates are Sues too, so that whole assumption will involve Bad Things done to them, especially among the Jerk!Sues.
Yes, the clinic is in a Reality Room-like place, where the Sue powers don't work.
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Humiliation by
on 2014-04-25 20:43:00 UTC
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The humiliation is supposed to be the kind that works just as well when Sue's alone. Also, all of their roommates are Sues too, so that whole assumption will involve Bad Things done to them, especially among the Jerk!Sues.
Yes, the clinic is in a Reality Room-like place, where the Sue powers don't work. -
Spelled my name wrong by
on 2014-04-25 23:21:00 UTC
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I accidentally spelled my name wrong on the title for that last post. Does doing that result in a mini-Boarder?
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Ooh! I know just what to do! by
on 2014-04-25 20:19:00 UTC
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In recent months, I've been running dozens of plans for experiments on Mary Sues. Almost all of them involve removing Glitter and Aura of Smooth from the Sue. With a few programs set on the good old AGNeS* (which, unfortunately, I haven't introduced yet), the Sue should be humiliation-prone. No more Aura of Smooth, no more instant protection from whatever problems might arise. >:)
On another note entirely, one should test the resolve of the Mary Sue by giving them a special test- a maze of doors. Each door has a face printed on it- one of an ugly monster (or something like that) and the other the Sue's LO. Needless to say, the doors with the LO's picture on them lead to some… unpleasant things.
I do hope this helps!
*AGNeS: Anti-Glitter NanitE System- Exactly What It Says On The Tin. A system of nanites injected into the bloodstream of a Mary Sue (or reformed Sue) to control levels of Glitter and other Sue-ish traits. The controller looks like a thick black rubber bracelet that one puts on the Sue's wrist. -
Don't Reality Rooms instantly destroy Sues? (nm) by
on 2014-04-25 17:48:00 UTC
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Depends on how unrealistic they are. (nm) by
on 2014-04-25 18:04:00 UTC
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That's the Problem with Sues by
on 2014-04-25 06:28:00 UTC
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Somehow I doubt logic and consequences would have any impact on the Sues either. At least some of them repent and become Agents, but the Sues that really need this kind of program would completely ignore it, unfortunately.
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My two cents by
on 2014-04-25 07:45:00 UTC
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We do have the Reality Room, why don't we use the same tech in this program? Just a thought.
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Maybe by
on 2014-04-26 02:41:00 UTC
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If you guys will allow it. It probably would be a good idea.
I'm pretty sure there will be a lot of patients requesting Bleeprin after seeing their uniforms.
Those requests will be most definitely denied. -
As an aside... by
on 2014-04-25 10:36:00 UTC
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I thought that this would be a good way of dealing with errant Sues.
(Clip courtesy of Hyperdrive.)