Subject: Logicillin shouldn't be too hard.
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Posted on: 2013-11-06 18:41:00 UTC
It only throws up 70-odd hits on Google, after all. ;)
hS
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Supernatural Sues by
on 2013-11-06 01:58:00 UTC
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DawnFire and I have been talking about our hopefully-forthcoming SPN OFU, and we've begun to think up ways to treat the 'Sues like monsters in the SPN verse. So far, we've decided that lines from high literature can be fashioned into something similar to a Devil's Trap, and that quoting such at the 'Sues will "burn" them. However, one must be careful in choosing what to quote, for 50 Shades, Twilight, or any sort of 'Sue-ruled book will actually make a 'Sue stronger!
With that in mind, we thought we'd ask the good people of the PPC for their suggestions. What sort of SPN-suitable weaknesses should we give 'Sues? -
On a somewhat related subject... by
on 2013-11-08 03:18:00 UTC
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Are we ever going to have a SuperWhoLock OFU Seminar? I'm up for it and I don't know about you guys ad Lily. It would be interesting as a lot of people love SuperWhoLock despite its improbability. I had some ideas involving character exchanges like Sherlock goes to OFWho or the 11th Doctor goes to SPN OFU etc. Or we can all meet at one OFU.
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So down for this. by
on 2013-11-09 03:53:00 UTC
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Last I left off, Bilbo and Smaug did a guest lecture at MBSFA, and I still really want to do the Star Trek crossover lecture with hermione of vulcan (mostly because I'm into Star Trek now so wooop).
But we should totally make the Superwholock thing a thing, totally. You should make Canton Everett Delaware III and Crowley trade places at OFUs for one day just to watch people get confused. -
Do it! by
on 2013-11-09 02:44:00 UTC
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Bad SuperWhoLock (aka the large majority) makes me want to bash my head against the nearest solid object, preferably multiple times. Or drink several bottles of Bleeprin. Or attack it with a flamethrower. All of the above works too. It takes a lot of finesse to do something that implausible (Sherlock Holmes explicitly does not exist in Doctor Who, for a start) well, and, as we all know, that sort of finesse in unfortunately rather rare, especially in fanwriters.
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YES by
on 2013-11-08 23:38:00 UTC
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THE THING SHALL BE DONE.
JUST AS SOON AS WE GET THE SPN OFU OFF THE GROUND. -
Not a weakness per se ... by
on 2013-11-06 17:54:00 UTC
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... but when my agents did their mission in SPN, they made sure to salt and burn the body after killing the Sue, to stop her from coming back as a vengeful ghost.
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Hmm.... by
on 2013-11-06 02:36:00 UTC
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That's hard. There's always holy water, I guess. Salt is useful to keep them out, if we're treating them like demons. Banishing spells/sigils-- I'm thinking something like the angel banishing sigil, but it only works on 'Sues. Then of course there's the special knives, guns, and various other artifacts you could twist to your own desire.
Also, I'd definitely be interesting in an SPN OFU; please keep informed on how it goes! -
About that.... by
on 2013-11-06 04:09:00 UTC
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Crucifixes are also good for this sort of thing, especially when you're fighting Vampire!'Sues.
I'm not too sure how well exposing them to sunlight would work, though. -
Have we managed to distil liquid logic yet? by
on 2013-11-06 02:34:00 UTC
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Because you can fling it at them like holy water.
Also check back a couple pages for the Time Engineer and son of heaven's Latin Sue exorcism chant.
Also I think it'd be great if there was an equivalent to Dead Man's Blood which poisons Sues. Uhhhhh... I guess liquid logic goes under that category too... -
Dead Man's Blood for Sues by
on 2013-11-06 18:35:00 UTC
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Maybe the blood of a well-written character will poison the 'Sue?
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Hey! by
on 2013-11-07 01:27:00 UTC
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How about Logic Water and Crystals of Plausibility? Logic water can be like Holy water and the Crystals could be like salt. I was planning to use them in OOFWo, but they would work great in the Supernatural OFU.
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Oops, OFWho. (nm) by
on 2013-11-07 01:27:00 UTC
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Sounds good to me! (nm) by
on 2013-11-08 02:54:00 UTC
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There's Logicillin. by
on 2013-11-06 14:30:00 UTC
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Sadly, there's not much information about it on the wiki at the moment, but: http://ppc.wikia.com/wiki/Logicillin
Dunno if it would act as holy water or poison, per se, since it's supposed to treat those with lingering Suvian traits. I don't know if it's ever been tested on full-blown Sues, though.
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Someday... by
on 2013-11-06 14:57:00 UTC
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... I will write a story which uses all of those someone-thought-this-was-cool-once substances on the wiki.
All of them.
And then I will sow the pharmacies that make them with salt so I never have to think about them again.
hS
(PS: Extreme? I don't think so. Here's a fun game for you: find the most recent PPC-canon reference to bleepesteem. Or rhum. Or even bleepto-dismal, but the really old ones get a pass. ~hS) -
Once I figure out what the heck to write I'll use some. by
on 2013-11-08 01:51:00 UTC
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That's the tall and short of why I've not been super active around here, just plain no idea what to write PPC-wise.
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I could've sworn my agents used Bleepesteem once. by
on 2013-11-06 21:51:00 UTC
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I don't remember where. It might've even been an unpublished thing. But they did consume it at one point.
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I'm frankly amazed. by
on 2013-11-07 16:47:00 UTC
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Given that even I don't know what it does (besides 'turn Vemi not-invisible again')...
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Increases self esteem and makes you forget why you felt bad. (nm by
on 2013-11-08 06:16:00 UTC
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Given Christianne's backstory, by
on 2013-11-07 17:16:00 UTC
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I imagine that Bleepesteem helped her cope with what happened to her in college.
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Re: Someday... by
on 2013-11-06 18:49:00 UTC
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I've used bleepto-dismal in my missions.
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Challenge Accepted by
on 2013-11-06 17:01:00 UTC
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... Not right this minute, but that does seem right up my alley, doesn't it?
As for Logicillin, unlike the others, I don't think it's as obscure and/or outdated as its sparse page makes it seem. I know I've seen it in more than one place; I just can't remember anything specific except that (I think) Diocletian used it. The trick is to actually record sightings of it for future reference, and alas, I probably can't turn up every single instance on my own.
I'm down with sowing the other pharmacies with salt, though. I'm pretty sure most of them went into business just to make up funny names for the patent forms. I mean, really. Bleepesteem. Who came up with that? ^_~
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On a different note... by
on 2013-11-06 23:36:00 UTC
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Did you see my reply to your reply to my post further down the board?
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Logicillin shouldn't be too hard. by
on 2013-11-06 18:41:00 UTC
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It only throws up 70-odd hits on Google, after all. ;)
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I have a team of Magos Errant working on it. (nm) by
on 2013-11-06 07:24:00 UTC
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I know nothing about Supernatural, but... by
on 2013-11-06 02:15:00 UTC
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I always thought it would be funny if Sues had an allergic reaction to sound logic. That way, one could just logic them to death! However, if one uses toll logic, it feeds the Sue. Just a thought.
Oh, and as a side note, why did you mention Twilight twice? There are plenty of other awful books to quote from. Like the Silmarillion.
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Erudamnit World-Jumper. You troll. (nm) by
on 2013-11-06 08:20:00 UTC
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I aim to please. And to anger Tolkien fans. (nm) by
on 2013-11-07 01:17:00 UTC
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When you wake up... by
on 2013-11-07 16:53:00 UTC
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... to a bag of Hobbit foot hair* on your pillow, you'll know it was your own fault.
hS
*This would have been a Hobbit head, but that would make them cry, and I just couldn't bear it. The alternative was a dragon head, but it wouldn't fit. -
So THAT was why my pillow smelled so bad... (nm) by
on 2013-11-07 20:06:00 UTC
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Re: I know nothing about Supernatural, but... by
on 2013-11-06 02:35:00 UTC
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The logic thing actually could work but you run the risk of angering them. Though on that note it might actually anger them so much that it reveals their true nature and therefore make them killable by normal means. Also there is the old canon way of getting rid of ghosts use salt (this is actually linked to real world lore as salt is beilved to disrput the etheral plane spirts reside on sea salt or kosher salt is best.) I'm also thinking maybe the radio from a '69 impala blaring 80's rock might actually act as a ward since it isn't music you can do a songfic to or your basic suewriter would even listen to. Bonus ponits if the song used in the tape deck is "Wayward Son"