I dunno about "Jamie" being a Sue.

So, I found this fic, and... (tw: rape) by Lily Winterwood on 2013-11-03 06:13:00 UTC Reply

I'm not sure whether or not to give it to DMS or DAVD. DawnFire and I are thinking it lies more towards the DAVD side of the spectrum because it involves rape and what looks like domestic abuse, but I'd like another opinion before we decide which agents to send into it.

Here, have a link: http://archiveofourown.org/works/1029171
(waring: NSFW, TW: rape, abuse, sexism)

The fic is called "for the best", it's set in Star Trek AOS with female Jim getting raped when she's 15 by Spock and kidnapped back to Vulcan because Amanda Grayson brings him to Winona Kirk's house for the sole purpose of bonding his son to her daughter. Fem!Jim then spends her days on Vulcan being a perfect housewife while knitting and drawing abstract paintings and being hurt during sex with Spock, who by the way is attending the Vulcan Science Academy.
It ends with Jim running off with Dr McCoy after the kal-if-fee, since she has championed him. The violence isn't horrifically gory, but the rapes are told in detail, and condoned in the most disgusting way, and there's sexism everywhere and ugh.

Dawn and I want to burn this thing but I'm not sure if it's awful enough for DAVD. I personally think it is, but yeah. I need another opinion.

More Badfic? MLP for DAVD by ThePoketrix on 2013-11-05 00:18:00 UTC Reply

http://www.fimfiction.net/story/62368/a-colgate-horror-story
Horrific... and not in the way the author intended...
Oh glod... by Autumn_68 on 2013-11-04 03:23:00 UTC Reply

I'm going with what the rest say: definitely DAVD. This is honestly acid to the senses. *chugs down Bleepolate milk*

~Autumn
Completely unrelated to the topic... by hermione of vulcan on 2013-11-04 02:29:00 UTC Reply

...though that fic is ugh of the highest magnitude.

I thought you'd like to know that my sister is into Hetalia and is currently reading IAHF. She's too shy to review, but I think an author should know when her work is being enjoyed. Which I believe it is.

She has a few questions she's asked me to ask you. Like I said, she's too shy to review.

1. Who are the most common Lust Objects? She's pretty sure the top is England, but who else?

2. If it's not too personal, do you or did you have a Hetalia Lust Object?

3. Do you ship anything? She's not much of a shipper, so she's also wondering if you have a theory on why the fandom ships so much.

4. Do you think Germany/Italy is canon? Going along with that, have you seen Buon San Valentino? It's an extra episode. (I'm just scribing here, I have not seen it nor do I plan to.)

5. Have you ever cosplayed?

That's it. And, in her words, "IAHF is a total delight!"

Answers! by Lily Winterwood on 2013-11-04 02:37:00 UTC Reply
1. England, Prussia, Russia, France, America, Japan, Germany... anyone can be lusted after, practically everyone is. I'm not entirely sure on the rankings; there's too many students to find a coherent one, haha.
  
  2. England. Bias is showing, I know. Jennifer Chang is basically me, actually.
  
  3. I ship Asakiku, which is England/Japan, and I ship a bit of FrUK and USUK too (it doesn't help that now that I'm into Star Trek all I see is Spones, Gaila/McCoy, and McKirk in those ships and I'm laughing). I think fans ship a lot because of international relations and alliances and treaties and stuff, and also because, say, if they're American and fancy British people, they'll be more likely to ship USUK.
  
  4. I've seen a bit of Buon San Valentino and I think GerIta is fairly canonical given that Chibitalia/HRE is canonical.
  
  5. I've done a bit of England, but two of my friends from high school are more into the cosplay thing than I am.

It's bad enough for DAVD. Trust me. by Herr Wozzeck on 2013-11-03 23:23:00 UTC Reply

Pardon my vernacular here, boarders, but I think it applies to this situation. I just...

What the ... did I just read?

*ingests an entire bottle of laxatives*

Holy Christ Crackers, this fic needs to die.

What the ellipsis indeed. (nm) by Ekyl on 2013-11-05 01:40:00 UTC Reply

Looks DAVD-y. In fact I might even take it on if it's cool. (nm) by Ekyl on 2013-11-03 08:15:00 UTC Reply

Dawn and I have dibs. by Lily Winterwood on 2013-11-03 08:17:00 UTC Reply

We think it might fit into the previous mission history of two of her agents, so yeah.

Dawn has DAVDers? Or just a general thing? by Ekyl on 2013-11-03 08:20:00 UTC Reply

(Aka I've been forgetting who's done what lately. :P)

No, she has ESAS agents. by Lily Winterwood on 2013-11-03 08:25:00 UTC Reply

But they have, in their past, done a DAVD mission and more or less found out it wasn't their cup of tea.

I'm making DAVD agents to work with them. They're both Vulcan, and bonded.

Sounds fun. by Ekyl on 2013-11-03 08:26:00 UTC Reply

I only just noticed I completely misread the original post anyway, blame it being 3:30 in the morning. Besides, it's not like there isn't already a lot of mission overlap in the action departments. :P

If you heard a loud "NOPE" in the background... by SeaTurtle on 2013-11-03 07:33:00 UTC Reply

...that would be me.

I suggest that we send in the DAVD. I don't think extreme cases of sexual abuse normally fall under DMS jurisdiction.

[[[UNPARSABLE SUBJECT LINE]]] by Mr. Dalek on 2013-11-03 07:39:00 UTC Reply

It's actually me, 99 here though.

Definitely DAVD. by 99Hedgehog on 2013-11-03 07:06:00 UTC Reply

This is actually horrible. I have never in my entire existence read something this... AWFUL AND HERETICAL!

Purge this fanfiction. I don't care who does it. JUST SOMEONE RID IT FROM MY MIND!

The Emperor Protects, brothers.
Also before I forget: by Lily Winterwood on 2013-11-03 06:16:00 UTC Reply

basically Amanda Grayson's either possessed or replaced, Spock is definitely replaced, and Jim's a Sue. Which is why, if it's not going to DAVD, it'd go to DMS instead.

I dunno about "Jamie" being a Sue. by Neshomeh on 2013-11-03 17:01:00 UTC Reply

Not disagreeing about the general quality of the fic or the appropriateness of a PPC response, but I don't get "Sue" from Jamie there. I don't think the story is about putting her forward. I'm not sure what it is about... just fulfilling the kink request in the ickiest way possible, I guess. *gag* But it's certainly not for Jamie's benefit. Also, she doesn't get that much characterization, but what there is is at least consistent, without the dissonance that comes from a narrative trying to tell us how awesome/important/sympathetic she is without backing it up with actions.

She could well be a replacement, though. The real James T. Kirk of any gender wouldn't sit still for this kinda BS for seven minutes, let alone seven years. {= /

~Neshomeh

Definitely a replacement. by Lily Winterwood on 2013-11-03 23:29:00 UTC Reply

So we're dealing with a really terrifying replacement of Amanda Grayson, an equally horrible replacement of Spock, and a replacement of Jim Kirk who needs severe counselling and therapy.

Yeah.