Subject: Badger reporting in.
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Posted on: 2013-09-26 05:52:00 UTC
Allow me to plug J.K. Rowling's thoughts on being a Hufflepuff while I'm at it.
Subject: Badger reporting in.
Author:
Posted on: 2013-09-26 05:52:00 UTC
Allow me to plug J.K. Rowling's thoughts on being a Hufflepuff while I'm at it.
Hey PPC
Whilst suffering from writers block I've been reading through quite a few Harry Potter fanfics. Whilst reading through them I noticed several that had somewhere in the summary something along the lines of "Harry will use his Slytherin side more" and that got me thinking. Whilst I'll admit that it's been a small while since I've read the Harry Potter books I don't particularly remember Harry using what I would call his "Slytherin side" at all. Is this just a Fanon phrase then or is there some canon proof behind Harry having this sort of side? And if this is just a Fanon phrase could it be tweaked slightly to become a charge in Harry Potter missions in the future or does it exist as/in a charge already?
I will leave the PPC to its pondering.
Storme Hawk
Harry, like any well-rounded character, does have some evil tendencies. He keeps them under good control, but he does. Most of his Slytherin-ish traits are the more neutral ones, though.
His time with the Dursleys left him with little respect for authority or for Muggles in general. Because Harry is a generally decent person, he will respect authority figures who prove their trustworthiness, and he will risk his life for a Muggle like Dudley when necessary. But he certainly does a lot of sneaking around, probably more than he needs to do.
He has a temper. If he's angry, he'll let you have it. Most of the time, Harry gets angry at people who deserve it, but his friends get caught in the crossfire too, like when he smashed up Dumbledore's office after Sirius died. And he'll often create a fight where there doesn't need to be one, because he is too proud to back down from a challenge.
Harry is also quite ambitious. Becoming an Auror is a difficult goal and Harry initially states that as his career plan mostly to mess with Umbridge. That same ambition lets him take on challenges that are much more than any person his age should be expected to conquer, without more than occasional doubts as to whether he is up to the task.
He can be pretty sneaky when he needs to be. Hiding a brewing Polyjuice potion, convincing Ron that he's sneaked him good-luck potion, spending all that time under the invisibility cloak, using secret passages, etc. He had good reasons for most of those things, but he did choose the sneaky method rather than the straightforward charge-into-battle Gryffindor style.
And of course, he's a Parselmouth who's got a bit of Voldemort in him. That, too.
I always thought it was a bit of a pity that we never got to see more of the non-evil Slytherins. It doesn't make much sense that fully a quarter of all wizards are evil wizards. Slytherin can mean sneaky, ambitious, proud, competitive. There are probably good Slytherins. Except, for the most part, they didn't come into the story much--Harry probably never thought too much about getting to know them.
Having a temper and creating a fight where there doesn't need to be one seem (at least to me) to be the bad sides of Gryffindors’ daring and nerve rather than Harry’s Slytherin side.
But sneaking around, making Ron believe that he drank Felix Felicis, or blackmailing Vernon Dursley to make him sign the Hogsmeade permission are definitely not the Gryffindor way. So there is canon evidence for Harry behaving like we would expect from a Slytherin.
Millicent Bulstrode is a good Slytherin. Just try to read "The Dueling Club" (CS 11) and "Out of the Fire" (OP 32) unprejudiced.
Hieronymus
Hufflepuff, actually.
Think about it. Hufflepuff may not be flashy, but they're noted for accepting anyone. The values they are most associated with are loyalty, kindness, perseverance, equality, patience, and fairness. Their only downside is that they are not high-profile--but that's the thing, the Hufflepuffs don't care about being high-profile. They're just going to go right on being quietly nice people, and thanks to their persistence, they're not going to stop being nice when things get rough.
Gryffindors may be the ones that charge into battle, but Hufflepuffs are the ones who go into no-man's land to rescue the wounded--and they probably don't even think of themselves as particularly brave for it, because they aren't really thinking of their own safety at all. There's a job to do and they're going to do it.
They have a reputation for low ability, but maybe that's just because they don't really care about self-promotion. A Hufflepuff who had a lot of intelligence wouldn't think to crow about it, wouldn't mind if someone else took credit for his discoveries. Cedric certainly wasn't a bad wizard.
Allow me to plug J.K. Rowling's thoughts on being a Hufflepuff while I'm at it.
Which could possibly mean he was a Slytherin in his school years. Harry wasn't overly fond of him, but Slughorn was ultimately on Harry's side, mostly because of his attachment to Lily Evans.
So he was a non-evil Slytherin, and I wish we'd seen more of him.
One of the things I do like to write about whenever I do anything with the Harry Potter stuff is non-evil Slytherins. As you said, cunning, ambitious, sly - none of these mean "evil".
I would make one point about what you said: "His time with the Dursleys left him with little respect for authority or for Muggles in general." Harry has never shown dislike of or disrespect for Muggles in general. He doesn't pay as much attention to them for most of the series, because he's in the wizarding world and therefore barely interacts with them, but he respects them as people.
... that given Gryffindor is identified as, what, 'brave' or 'corageous', and Slytherin as 'evil', er... something like 'cunning' or 'sly', that it means Harry actually starts thinking for once acts... you know... more like that. [Shrug] I don't think it necessarily means 'evil', since in theory you can have good Slytherins.
Of course, in the stories, it may well mean 'Harry occasionally hits his friends for no reason' or some such, in which case it's a charge all by itself.
hS
As has been mentioned before, the Sorting Hat almost put Harry into Slytherin. Furthermore, let's not forget that Harry is a Parselmouth. I'm guessing that that is what is being alluded to by his "Slytherin side."
The Sorting Hat wanted to put him in Slytherin, and the fans likely interpreted that as "Harry has repressed Slytherin qualities!" or something like that, rather than "the Sorting Hat noticed Harry was part Voldemort and decided to roll with it". While I'm still doubtful about my skill at deducing what is or isn't a charge, I'd guess that yes, making this sort of mistake would indeed be charge-worthy.
...that it's just people using a phrase they think sounds cool to describe Harry behaving in a way other than the Gryffindor stereotype. I'm not that active in the Harry Potter fandom, so I can't say for sure, but that's what it sounds like to me.
It probably originated from the fact that the Sorting Hat said he might do well in Slytherin, and Slytherin has been stereotyped as the "bad guys" of the Wizarding World. In other words, Harry does something morally questionable? Clearly it's his "Slytherin side."
What do other people think?