Subject: I never knew 'cans' believed in StarClan (nm)
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Posted on: 2015-07-17 16:08:00 UTC
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I have decided, with approval, to tackle this monster. by
on 2015-07-16 19:17:00 UTC
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It is known as Starkit's Prophecy, the infamous scourge of the Warriors fandom. In other words, a Legendary Badfic. Many Warriors fans have studied it, rewritten it to make it a better story, etc. It got so many flame reviews that it was removed from the Pit, but I found an original copy on a different site that I can use.
http://starkitsprophecy.webstarts.com/the_story.html
I will cease work on my other Claims for now, if I am approved to spork this one. -
Good Luck... by
on 2015-07-17 16:07:00 UTC
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If you want any help with it, my agents are ready at the go. :)
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Can you describe your agents for me, T? (nm) by
on 2015-07-17 21:45:00 UTC
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One Wiki walk later... by
on 2015-07-17 21:59:00 UTC
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Anna Parks and Silver Leonne.
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Oh yeah.. Sorry. by
on 2015-07-18 04:30:00 UTC
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Sure, you can help me, but you'll need to help me with your agents so I get them right, if you know what I mean.
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Um. by
on 2015-07-18 14:09:00 UTC
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Before you go making more plans, you may want to read what DawnFire said further down the thread?
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I did. Understood, Dawn. Mission aborted. (nm) by
on 2015-07-18 19:57:00 UTC
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Wait.. I forgotÂ… Could we name this one a Legendary? (nm) by
on 2015-07-16 20:37:00 UTC
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And by approval, I meant possible approval. Sorry. (nm) by
on 2015-07-16 21:19:00 UTC
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Nevermind, I skimmed it. I won't. It's too Badfic... by
on 2015-07-16 22:33:00 UTC
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You can delete this little thread. I'm sorry.
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There's a lesson here. by
on 2015-07-16 23:53:00 UTC
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That is, read the fic before you decide to claim it.
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Actually, I think i could try it... by
on 2015-07-17 01:12:00 UTC
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…if I nerve myself up for it.
But I guess that, for now, I'm requesting it be moved to Legendary status. -
I thought that the PPC didn't go after religious badfic. (nm) by
on 2015-07-17 05:50:00 UTC
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Well, there's much more to this badfic than religion. (nm) by
on 2015-07-17 05:50:00 UTC
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Yeah, but she's a Religious!Sue, isn't she? (nm) by
on 2015-07-17 05:56:00 UTC
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The author's notes are. Not the rest. by
on 2015-07-17 15:04:00 UTC
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And honestly, I'm disgusted by how she blasphemes with Jesus' name. But honestly, I think this should be moved to Legendary. she's the Sue Queen of Warriors.
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Er. by
on 2015-07-17 19:21:00 UTC
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While I haven't read the fic itself (and would definitely prefer to avoid doing so), I did just read the TVTropes page on it (which is extremely informative), and while I agree with the Legendary status...I don't think this is quite right for PPCing.
You've said that the a/ns are the part about religion, but the Tropes page says it's got Author Tract, the (or a?) main character "attempting to convert the Clans to Christianity", a version of the Ten Commandments playing a role in the story, Starkit (I assume this is the kit who becomes StarGleam) actually being called, in-fic, the cats' 'savor' and Jesus, I am not kidding--look, just take a look through the Tropes page. It's very informative, and has a lot of quotes. I'd say it's probably giving a very good idea of what the fic is like; TVTropes pages on badfics tend to, and this one looks pretty thorough to me.
What does the PPC say about this? Well, let's take a look:
What about religious fic?
As noted in the Guide to the PPC, we consider fanfiction based on religious texts to be in poor taste, and since a mission is a form of fanfic, we'd be hypocrites to PPC such fics. It happened once, but after that we agreed as a community not to go there again.
Then there's fanfic that has overt religious themes while not strictly being a religious-text-fic. Sporking religious fanfic is tricky – so tricky that it's best just to leave it alone. We've seen those fics where Harry Potter converts to Christianity, and we find them just as mind-boggling as you do, but we prefer not to run the risk of offending or hurting our fellow Boarders by accidentally bashing someone's religion while sporking a story.
That doesn't mean you can't PPC any fic that so much as mentions a religion or contains a religious character, but please exercise extreme caution and remember that everyone has a right to their own beliefs, even if you don't agree with them.
Personally, I think that this looks like exactly the sort of badfic we do not take on. Religion seems to play a pretty big part in it--particularly religion of the Author Tract!Missionary sort, which, er, is pretty out of place in the Warriors-verse, I'll give you that--and by 'it' I mean both the a/ns and the story itself. It looks like it'd be really difficult to PPC without offending people, and, quite honestly, it doesn't look like the kind of fic we spork. Library of the Damned would do it--they did Prayer Warriors, after all, and it went pretty well--but I'm pretty sure it's not for us.
So: as horrible as it is, as horrible as even the non-religious elements are...I'd recommend leaving it alone. PPCing it looks like a horrible idea to me, and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one with that opinion.
(Legendary status, though? I'm on board with that. Very much so. Unless Legendary status is limited to non-religious-element badfics?)
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Oh, it's *totally* a Legendary. by
on 2015-07-18 03:52:00 UTC
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I've read the thing. Jay falls in love with a stick. Cats moo. The German language itself decides that there needs to be a chapter "NO." Much more entertaining than My Immortal was, really. Including even stupider prophecies! :D
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Agreed. by
on 2015-07-17 19:32:00 UTC
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Couldn't have put it better myself.
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Undoubtedly, she's the leading Sue in the Warriors archive. by
on 2015-07-17 15:06:00 UTC
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No one who knows about this Badfic has said otherwise.
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Whoops, bad wording. by
on 2015-07-17 15:07:00 UTC
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I meant that "those who know about this Badfic have not said otherwise."
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And honestly, the cats in Warriors don't know... by
on 2015-07-17 15:10:00 UTC
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…about Jesus or God, so she shouldn't be using those names. she should be saying "Oh StarClan!" after the spirits the Cans believe in.
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I never knew 'cans' believed in StarClan (nm) by
on 2015-07-17 16:08:00 UTC
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I meant "Clans." Sorry for the misspelling. by
on 2015-07-17 17:28:00 UTC
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The four Clans in the series all believe in StarClan - all the good cats who have died. They become the stars in the sky. But I digress…
So, should we call it a Legendary, or no?