Subject: Could be both.
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Posted on: 2013-02-21 23:23:00 UTC
I definitely overlooked some things through familiarity, but no, admins (mainly me, I admit, since I'm there the most) do the blocking if needed. I don't know if blocks even can be automated.
~Neshomeh
It seems that you three have adopted invalid minis. No minis until the first Hunger Games mission.
Maybe just to resolve this, whoever writes said first mission can purposely pick a mini-filled one.
I think the minis should be mockingjays.
Can I have Peta btw?
There can't be any mini types until missions or an OFU. And Peta is already adopted.
It's all very meta. If you don't have agents to give the mini to, it's just in name only, and doesn't affect anything but your pleasure at having a virtual whatever-it-is.
You have no agent and, most likely, don't write any PPC stories. The only thing you do is claim a mini someone else doesn't get to claim any more.
Perhaps the minis should be un-adopted. Why did I put myself in charge of this?
It's little Elladn. No one raised much concern when I did, other than pointing out that I should have mentioned my Board name when I asked to adopt him. Once they knew I was part of the PPC, nobody ever brought up Permission or anything like that, as far as I'm aware.
...more that hermione of vulcan was handing out Hunger Games minis without Hunger Games having a specific mini type, and doing so without consulting anybody else.
I think it was less that hermione of vulcan meant to hand them out, and more that once they were noticed, people claimed them. Which in turn started the discussion of what they might look like as there were several Hunger Games fans present and already discussing Hunger Games things.
And once the discussion was started, well the consulting issue came into effect, and this thread was started. ^_^;
For a second I got confuzzled. I thought the problem was with non-Permission-havers adopting minis.
Thankies, Tray-Gnome!
You don't. Minis aren't reported, like badfic, they're found by agents or students/staff of an OFU. Until someone enters the story, the minis don't technically exist.
Think of it like Shrodinger's Cat, only with fanfiction: Minis are in a perpetual state of limbo until someone enters the wordworld and observes them. They were never meant to be a meta thing. At least, not to this extent.
Going to do a list. Because I have started a thing!
1. I like that - no minis made on the Board except for mini-Boarders.
2. Moving "parentless" minis to a new section - also good. We should check with everyone, though. See how many reply to these two posts.
5. If you make a habit of anonymous edits, your IP's anonymous-user Talk page will receive warnings. If the warnings fail, your IP will be blocked for some period of time.
Um... you went from 'might undo if there's a problem' and 'you might not have read the style guide' to 'you will be unavoidably blocked for your crimes'. Is that... I mean, that seems a bit out of proportion? No?
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Because, y'know, people might not want to make an account?
hS
I don't know whether it's me not reading or you not writing, but - I got the impression the whole 'block' thing was automatic? Which is a rather different cubegame*.
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*Ballgames are so passe.
I definitely overlooked some things through familiarity, but no, admins (mainly me, I admit, since I'm there the most) do the blocking if needed. I don't know if blocks even can be automated.
~Neshomeh
*takes the opportunity to issue you both hugs for working out your disagreement rationally and without freaking out or attacking each other*
... oh, wait, not freaking out...?
:P
(Would you believe it took me three tries to type that emoticon? I think I'm tired...)
hS
Besides, making an account is literally as simple as coming up with a user name and password, and you can set it to remember you so you you don't have to log in every time you visit the wiki.
... is after all those years of having a note on Makes-Things' page about a purported assistant named Fix-It, I finally got to read Neshomeh's edit summary when she found him.
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Personally, I hate editing the wiki. I always feel like I'm about to mess something up, or change the wrong thing, or accidentally blank a page, or... *carries on for several minutes* ...thus causing the downfall of the entire Martian civilisation. Again. So, I pretty much wind up editing it as little as possible. Most of the edits I've made have been adding to my primary agent pair's page. I haven't even gotten around to any of my other PPC characters to the wiki, or adding Zombieland minis, or pretty much anything. I just get way too anxious about it.
When you folks do have new info that should be added, go ahead and let me or someone else who does frequent the wiki know so they can add it for you. We want the wiki to have all possible PPC info on it!
(I'll work on Zombieland minis in a bit.)
I practically live there anyway. {= P I can help out, whether by adding stuff or answering questions about how to do stuff.
~Neshomeh
Mostly because I really like to edit things. It got me in trouble once or twice on the wiki, before I learned how to do things the right way... ^.^;;
(That's probably not a word…but you get it.)
(..So you're in good company! XD)
I didn't explain that last bit, about the type of block, in the original post. Sorry about that! Wikia has very flexible blocking options; it's pretty cool.
~Neshomeh
Who's in-charge of the adoption list? *is curious* I think it's you... Yes, you. Right? 0.0
If you're referring to minis in general, there is no one person who hands out minis. It depends on which 'verse the mini is from. If you want to know more, there's a handy-dandy mini page on the wiki.
If you're referring to Hunger Games minis, there are none. Hunger Games has neither an OFU nor any missions. There is no mini type for it, and therefore HG minis should not be handed out.
Was it you who said that you hadn't read all the way through Mockingjay? Then obviously you wouldn't know about Katniss and Peeta's children. It's been some time since I read the series, so I don't remember if Finnick and Annie have a child or President Snow has a granddaughter. (Actually, that last one sounds interesting to explore. How would you feel if he was your grandpa?) I'm inclined to believe that these are all legitimate, they just look bad because they were never named in canon.
Not that their blank slate status doesn't make them likely to be Sued, though.
Because I wanted the Minis to be mini-Hydras, with a bib that has their names on it and a new head each time that spelling is used. Oh well. As for the egyptian, yeah, mini-Ammets sound good (though mini-Kufu's humor me immensely). I think I can agree on mythology-based minis, though I still think the OFU writers shpold be able to decide if they want a different creature.
Yeah, you know my vote for Hunger Games minis. Mini-Mutts all the way!
It's just that there have been minis created and adopted, so I thought we should give them a form. And I have a feeling that someone involved in that conversation (maybe me) will be the first person to write in Hunger Games.
As to the artificial inflation - it seems that Percy Jackson is a victim of it, considering that the mini listed isn't from the OFU and there are no missions into Percy Jackson yet. Should somebody possibly go through the list and delete the ones with no references?
It's not a Board consensus. It's not a PPC decision. It's up to whoever writes the OFU or the mission. If one of the people involved in the conversation happens to do one of those first, that's great! But the thing is, if it's not, then it's not fair to to the person who did. Savvy?
...amorphous wraith-minis, yes? Until the OFU starts or the first mission is written?
...*cool*. I have an amorphous wraith-mini named Suzan!
~DF
I like it. ^^
...I am kind of "eh" on handing out non-mission minis, especially in a 'verse that doesn't have minis yet.
...how often "relatively soon" turns into "eventually" which turns into "maybe never". Seriously.
If you think it won't be long, then you shouldn't have a problem waiting. If it never happens, then we don't need it anyway. Either way, waiting seems to be indicated.
-Phobos
I know that's the official take on minis from the wiki, and I don't disagree with it, creating a mini species is a high privilege, and should be reserved for OFU and first mission writers. But what about a case like this, where the minis were created before the continuum has been visited or an OFU built?
Are they amorphous wraith minis until someone officially does something in the continuum or in such rare cases might not a board vote suffice? Just curious. ^^
Minis shouldn't be created before an OFU or mission is written, because it's their prerogative. It's fun to think up minis on the Board, but then what? We get a long list full of minis with nothing official backing them up, and a lot of potential conflicts in the future if something official comes along. This is not actually a rare case, if you look at the list on the wiki. The rule is what it is for a reason.
~Neshomeh
Normally mini types are only chosen when someone starts an OFU or writes a mission. I can't remember if there has been a HG mission.
The second thing is kind of iffy, since there's a wide variety of ways to interpret mythology, so I'm against unifying minis there. Not sure what to do with the Percy Jackson thing, since OFUs have priority in mini design.
In this post. In my response, I pointed out the minis. Then people wanted to adopt them, which led to a discussion of what, exactly, had been adopted.
As to unifying mythology, I agree. It was just an idea that I thought might help reconcile the conflicts.