Subject: Hey SeaTurtle! Don'cha get a déjà vú feeling here...?
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Posted on: 2015-05-28 03:21:00 UTC
'Cuz I do...
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Random idea by
on 2015-05-28 01:23:00 UTC
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What do you guys think about agents finding, in-mission, that someone else has infiltrated the badfic and is trying to alter events themselves? Like a villain or a rival or something, someone outside the PPC with their own goals.
Yeah, it's probably not a good idea, but I have a character concept that I want to use, and she's completely ill-suited as an agent. -
Been there, done that. ;) by
on 2015-05-28 08:37:00 UTC
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(O'course, if you try to wait for an idea I haven't touched on in the past twelve years, you may be waiting a long time...)
The Ispace Wars is (currently the first half of) the tale of what happens when the PPC runs into an organisation which meets exactly that description. Well, I say an organisation... it's a bit more complicated than that (of course).
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That reminds me... by
on 2015-05-28 11:49:00 UTC
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I've been incredibly incredibly slack about sending you that co-write bit you asked for what must be year(s) ago. (Eep!)
I have it almost finished and can brush it off if you still need it.
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I do still need it. by
on 2015-05-28 11:57:00 UTC
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I'm sure I would've emailled you when I got there, but yes, please do send it! I promise I'll even use it. ^_^
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I'm glad you brought this up. by
on 2015-05-28 10:07:00 UTC
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It looks all abandoned and dreary and sad. What happened to it?
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Other things. by
on 2015-05-28 10:23:00 UTC
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Probably the thing that put it on hiatus was Driftwood - a mission a week doesn't leave much brainspace for Ispace! Right now, it's idling until I get Plort organised for, um, next month - I've got a History of El-Jheycom to finish before the Baronial Council in a week or so!
And then, since I've reminded myself, I'll probably pick up Ispace Wars again. I want to see it finished as much as you do, I promise!
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Oh, goodie. by
on 2015-05-28 21:01:00 UTC
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It means the mission I wrote for you ages ago will actually be a Something and not just a mission.
Also, Ol Teh Haip for Plort next week. -
*startled; checks the calendar* GACK! by
on 2015-05-28 11:24:00 UTC
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Okay, time really snuck up on me. Is Plort coming up that fast?
*sigh* Sorry I haven't been as much help with Operation Sherbet Rain as I'd promised. Other stuff kept getting in the way, but still... >-> -
For what its worth, I think it is a pretty good idea by
on 2015-05-28 05:36:00 UTC
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It could be an interesting story.
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Well, I'm still a newbie, by
on 2015-05-28 02:15:00 UTC
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But I know interesting when I see it, and that's interesting. If older and wiser heads are okay with it, then go for it, and I'll be happy to read it!
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So in other words, the Protectors of the Plot Discontinuum? by
on 2015-05-28 01:25:00 UTC
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That's already a thing, right? Like a parody thing? I'm pretty sure it is.
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Nope. by
on 2015-05-28 01:42:00 UTC
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What I mean is someone who's deliberately interfering with PPC operations, and they're not a part of the badfic itself. They may or may not be Sues, but they've either got their hands on PPC tech or they have other means of crossing dimensions.
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Enforcers of the Plot Continuum. by
on 2015-05-28 01:54:00 UTC
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They're on the Wiki! Is that what you're thinking about?
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Still not quite there yet. by
on 2015-05-28 02:01:00 UTC
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The character I have in mind is from the prime multiverse, but she's trying to make the canons go the way she thinks they should. No, not a Sue; she's travelling around badfics and killing Sues herself. Unfortunately, she's also willing to attack canon characters and PPC agents if they don't match her vision.
Basically, an antagonistic third party in the prime multiverse. Not PPC, not working with Mary Sues, simply out for their own goals.
The specific character I have in mind... well, she's a former serial killer from a horror continuum, and she's kinda been contaminated by her means of dimensional travel. She's not human anymore. -
So, the Red Hood to the PPC's Batman? by
on 2015-05-28 06:01:00 UTC
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I mean, the Agents are a bunch of psychopathic killers too, but we still have some semblance of a code, so hopefully, you sorta get what I'm saying.
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Actually... by
on 2015-05-28 14:33:00 UTC
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The comparison I had more in mind was the SCP Foundation and the Global Occult Coalition.
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Is the same actuallly... by
on 2015-05-28 15:24:00 UTC
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Protect versus Destroy.
Batman protects the civilians, Red Hood kills (ie. 'destroys') the criminals.
The SCP Foundation protects the public, the Global Occult Coalition destroys the supernatural.
And there other similar comparisons in fiction too. -
I'm not well-versed in DC lore, eheheh. (nm) by
on 2015-05-28 15:26:00 UTC
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Hey SeaTurtle! Don'cha get a déjà vú feeling here...? by
on 2015-05-28 03:21:00 UTC
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'Cuz I do...
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Well, I don't. by
on 2015-05-28 03:26:00 UTC
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Care to explain?
- Of course I do! by on 2015-05-28 03:35:00 UTC Reply
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Huh, I missed that. by
on 2015-05-28 03:41:00 UTC
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I suppose that this character (Helen Sparks is her name, she's originally from Silent Hill) is a much more hostile version. She has nothing against the PPC specifically, but to her they don't belong and need to be gone.
She probably doesn't need it, but she carries a fire axe everywhere.
She used to be a serial killer.
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I can't do the math... by
on 2015-05-28 04:05:00 UTC
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...there are missing variables, like: How?
How she travels?
How she kills the Sues?
How is she not a Sue!?
Also:
Why she doesn't get twisted in her own twisted logic? After all, she should've killed herself, since she doesn't belong there either. -
Well... by
on 2015-05-28 04:23:00 UTC
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The idea I have is that she got caught in some sort of plothole storm, and her body was contaminated by over a dozen different continua. Even she hasn't sorted out exactly what she is yet.
She's not a Sue, because she's something... else. And her idea of what should happen in the story miiiiight not quite be what the PPC wants. Plus, she kills noncanonical characters without warning, not even charging them. She crosses one, they get an axe in the neck.
As for how she travels... well, she knows how to manipulate plotholes just well enough to move between continua.
How does she kill Sues? The same way we do. Her weapon of choice, as stated, is a fire axe, but considering how out-there she is, she may or may not actually need it.
And as I said, Helen is an antagonist, not a PPC agent. Even if she were a Sue, she'd still be opposed to whatever the PPC is doing, so she'd be at odds with them regardless. -
Please don't take this the wrong way by
on 2015-05-28 08:21:00 UTC
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But she does seem like a Sue to be honest. Maybe not from an in-universe standpoint, but from an out-of-universe standpoint. It's kind of sounding like a bad creepypasta with an unstoppable super-creepy killer. I know the idea sounds really cool, but I think that sometimes that's a sign you should step back from it.