Subject: Dang it, I made a mini!
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Posted on: 2015-05-27 18:07:00 UTC
*sigh* Come here, Nodlorin. Do I have to go through certain channels to adopt him, or can he just stick with me?
Subject: Dang it, I made a mini!
Author:
Posted on: 2015-05-27 18:07:00 UTC
*sigh* Come here, Nodlorin. Do I have to go through certain channels to adopt him, or can he just stick with me?
Hi!
So, I had another question with my Tenth Walker.You mentioned Galadriel reading her mind- how should I handle that?
My current idea is that Amy only knows three things about the plot. Gandalf dies, Boromir dies, and the Ring is destroyed. That's it. But if Galadriel reads her mind, she'll see how they're connected- Gandalf dies, Boromir dies, and THEN the Ring is destroyed. Won't she realize that, since Amy has messed up one of those already, the Ring may not be thrown in Mount Doom at all?
"Remember that the Mirror shows many things, and not all have yet come to pass. Some never come to be, unless those that behold the visions turn aside from their path to prevent them. The Mirror is a dangerous guide of deeds."
This is also a good statement about prophecies in Arda in general. Not only are they often able to be read two wildly-different ways - take the naming of Arvedui 'Last-King' of Arthedain, who would be the Last King of Arthedain either because he would claim Gondor and rule over a Reunited Kingdom... or because his realm would fall utterly - but are also very much of the 'if you try to prevent it, that may be the cause of it' variety.
There's also the nature of tercen, elven 'Insight' (which is what Galadriel has). It's not so much mind-reading as... oh, heart-reading? I mean, she didn't look at Boromir and go 'hey, mate, I can see you want the Ring; I think it's time you went a different way'. She'd probably pick up on Amy's relief that she's rescued Gandalf, her worry that she won't be able to save Boromir, and her confidence that the Ring will be destroyed. Maybe also her probably-ambiguous-at-this-point feelings about being in a book.
I think Galadriel will use prophecy as her frame of reference. She'll see the things that Amy knows happen as prophecies: one has been proven false (or at least seems to have been); the others are yet to come. Perhaps they'll never happen. Perhaps they're pretty much fixed. Perhaps Amy could meddle with them. Who knows the will of Iluvatar?
One thing I think she wouldn't do is show Amy the Mirror. She can't be trusted! She had a prophecy, and she actively worked to negate it. That's precisely what Galadriel warns Frodo against. But that doesn't mean Galadriel won't use her own apacen (Foresight, which is heavily implied to be what 'powers' the Mirror in the first place) to peek ahead... and maybe drop a couple of hints. She may want to keep from meddling, but she is a Noldo; we they have difficulty with restraint. ;)
hS
That's a load off of my shoulders; I had absolutely no idea how to handle the situation. Thank you so much!
Aragorn and Denenthor both have some form of 'Insight,' don't they?
And then, perhaps, if Amy doesn't like the hints (she's a rather prideful person; I can easily see her disregarding the Lady's advice if she disagrees with it), she might work actively against those too, causing a whole new thread of happenings. And then everything SNOWBALLS. Hee.
Tolkien had a few things he liked to give all his heroic characters (and yes, I count Denethor in that):
-Grey eyes.
-Nice hair.
-The ability to see into the hearts of men.
Frodo? Can tell that Faramir is good just by looking at him. Bilbo? Knows that Bard and Thranduil are a better bet than Thorin in the B5A. Aragorn, Denethor, Beren, Tuor, Turin (well, maybe not Turin...), they all fit the pattern pretty closely.
hS
I know most people get really bent out of shape over Faramir, but if I could change one thing in the movies, it would be Peter Jackson's treatment of Denethor. He's not only heroic, he's a tragic character, and he was completely butchered.
Nice hair. Heh. That's so very true XD
Oh, grey eyes, that reminds me- do ALL Elves have grey eyes? I know that the Noldor are specifically listed as having them, but I don't know any other examples. I've also heard conflicting tales about various Nodlorin Elves having blond hair.
Another random question that I've thought of for no reason- what is the singular of Teleri?
Some Noldor have blond/e hair due to having Vanyarin relatives. Notable, the Golden House of Finarfin - Finrod, Galadriel, and their kin - are blondes. The fact that 'being blond' is the attribute they're remembered by is probably telling.
Eye colour I wrote a post on a few months back: here.
And the singular of 'Teleri' is 'Teler' - Quenya words form plurals by adding -i or -r (mostly).
hS
I was a bit confused- some depictions of one of the sons of Fëanor (It's meant to be Celegorm, I think) have him with blond hair, which I couldn't remember being mentioned, but I haven't read all that there is.
I shall look at that post; and thank you! I was very unsure. Noldo and Vanya were fairly obvious, but I was hesitant to say "Teler," as I had never seen it before and didn't want to accidentally make a fool of myself if I was wrong. Thank you!
*sigh* Come here, Nodlorin. Do I have to go through certain channels to adopt him, or can he just stick with me?
... is run by Cassie these days. Maybe she'll get my message. ^_~
hS
Yes, I am still here with the Mini-Balrogs!
You're best off emailing me these days if you want to get my attention quickly, though.
cassieDOTdramateacherATgooglemailDOTcom is where to find me best.
I'll inquire of Nodlor. I created him after all, and I'd like a mini. I wasn't quite ready for one when I made Sauraman XD