Subject: Oh yes you would.
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Posted on: 2015-05-16 23:58:00 UTC
I wrote the same type of thing on FF.net.
It'd be hard to find, certainly - but that's true everywhere.
hS
Subject: Oh yes you would.
Author:
Posted on: 2015-05-16 23:58:00 UTC
I wrote the same type of thing on FF.net.
It'd be hard to find, certainly - but that's true everywhere.
hS
The story first:
Magweth Pengolodh: The Question of Pengolod is a tale of Numenor at its height, and of Beleriand in its decline, and of elves, and of mortals, and of wonder, and of terror. I've linked to it by way of the author's note, which points out the reasons you might not want to read it:
You may enjoy this if you are interested in Númenor or in the Silmarillion in general, or if a philosophical exploration of differences between elves and mortals is up your alley. There will be 12 parts. 'Magweth Pengolod' has got linguistics, romance, drag queens, schemers, villains, boats galore, and through the tale-within-a-tale device, plenty of Silmarillion glimpses and some HoME characters getting fleshed out.
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A 12-part story based on HoME characters? Spiced up with linguistic obsession and drag queens? If I'd sat down and thought really hard about how to scare off 95% of Tolkien fan readers, that's what I'd come up with.
I really enjoyed it; it's one of those stories that takes you into the world for a walk-around, rather than the kind that drags you along with plot. ;) It spends a lot of time showing you the things around the edges of Tolkien's world, the bits he never got to write - what it was like to fight in the Fall of Gondolin, for instance. Plus, did you read that description? It's got linguistics!
Stories like this always leave me feeling... different. Like I'm halfway into the world myself, like I could spend hours looking at the stars, and can almost hear the voices of the trees. Not just Middle-earth, either - give me a story of magic I've not read, and you'll have me half convinced the magic's real by the end. ;) Some books even alter my way of speaking for a little while - I get stuck in 'noble speechifying' mode, it's kinda hilarious. ;)
hS
Now there's something you'd probably never find on FF.N.
Oh, and the author's hit their estimated readers just form the PPC. I'm guessing they underestimated the number of Tolkien nuts in the world...
I wrote the same type of thing on FF.net.
It'd be hard to find, certainly - but that's true everywhere.
hS
Yes, I remember that. I think it's in my favourites...
*goes off to read*
And... yep, that's the three people with Elvish names going off to read it. ^_^
hS
I'm reading it - I'm about halfway through, I think - and so far, I like what I see.
I just finished reading. And I'm not giving spoilers... :D
Seriously, I'm reading it as I write this.
Anyway, speaking about questions, Middle-earth, linguistics and... uh, drag queens, I've got a weird question for you:
What's your hypothesis about what would happen if an elleth spent a little too much time with (and by that I mean living with, speaking with, learning Real Life languages from, and being tortured alonside) the fangirls from the OFUM? How would her speech patterns change, if they do at all? How would that affect her mindset and the way she sees the world? Would she get PTSD? Will she start liking stuffed toys!?
Despite the apparent silliness of the question, I actually have been seriously meditating that question since I joined the Board (except for the stuffed toys part, that one's a truly silly question), so I really want to know your thoughts on that.
What would happen if an American girl spent her time living with, speaking with, and learning slang from some girls from the north of England? The answer is the same: depends on the girl! Some Americans in Britain go 'hyper-American' and protest that everything American is better; some do the opposite and end up with hilariously fake 'English' accents; and some walk the middle path and just sort of absorb things.
So you might end up with someone like Agent Huinesoron, who's disdainful about mortals and thinks in Quenya (deliberately so). But... okay, let's design a character.
Lethril ('eavesdropper', hilariously - and yes, there's a masculine form as well!) is a fairly quiet Green-elf from the First Age. She lives in Doriath, speaks Doriathrin Sindarin, and can vaguely write - she's aware of the runes, knows about half of them, that sort of thing. (No, the Doriathrim weren't particularly literate! See P@L's comments on 'Sindarin-style record keeping'.) Her mother is a hunter, her father a smith. Her favourite season is winter, because the ice on the river reminds her of crystals; her most treasured possession is a dwarf-made bracelet set with faceted quartz crystals.
(As an aside: see how easy it is to invoke a character without spending your time listing powers and weapons?)
And then she's dumped into OFUM and has to learn English, and is abused by the staff over her habit of telling her friends back home whimsical stories about life around Cuivienen (she doesn't understand why - what was wrong with her tale of Bainion the Fair and the way he healed the rift between the Lindar and the Gódhellim by being Just Plain Better than everyone else?).
She'd likely pick up English very quickly - elves do, you know. Given that she's a native Sindarin speaker, her main problem might well be a tendency to soften the first letters of words - 'the 'irls vrought me flowers, and I was hincerely voved' - but she'd get a handle on that. Conversely, when switching back to Sindarin, she might lose the mutations, which would sound equally strange.
She'd probably use colloquial English - she's picking it up from conversation, not from lessons, after all - but that wouldn't filter back into Sindarin. She'd probably start mixing idioms between the two, though - the Doriathrim were great mixers of culture.
Her outlook on life... there's a lovely speech in the Leithian Script, where Luthien thinks about her association with the mortal Beren:
Beren, you've made me see time as a mortal woman does. It's been an hour already! How will I survive a day -- a week -- a year?
And that goes for Lethril as well. When all your companions are getting enthusiastic about the passing of a week, it's impossible to keep the mindset that anything less than ten years is a blink of an eye. So yes, Lethril will end up thinking in 'mortal time'.
Another probability (also from the Leithian Script) is that she'll become somewhat addicted to mortals. It's their worldview! Lethril is 254 years old; she's seen virtually everything already, it's all a bit samey. But the girls at OFUM, they're seeing things for the first time. Lethril would never have looked at Legolas and thought 'wow, he's hot' - she knows his grandfather, he's of her people, she's spent her life around people just as pretty as him, her built-in assumptions mean she doesn't bother to look - but now that her friends say it, she's looking, and she's liking what she sees. ^^ And not just his hair, if you know what I mean.
Would Lethril come out of it with PTSD? Um, possibly from the teachers! If anything, she'd end up with Stockholm Syndrome - her family back home would hardly recognise her!
Lethril is fairly heavily based on Finrod Felagund's mindset, I think. He ran into the Edain and shacked up with them for a while, and you can totally imagine him dressing in rough furs and getting into a drinking contest with Beor. But you could equally make her a Thranduil, isolationist and withdrawn - or a Caranthir. Pick a model and project them into that situation; if you know the character, you can work out their reactions from first principles.
hS
PS: And yes, she'd love the stuffed toys. Menegroth was sculpted as a 'forest underground' - stuffed animals are a way to do that in every room! What's not to like? ^~
Now'll keep reading the fic.