Subject: [Prods] Be nice.
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Posted on: 2015-05-06 14:52:00 UTC
If there's a logical hole in SeaTurtle's position, point it out - politely. Don't flip over to behaviour that can be read as 'I wash my hands of you puny mortals'. ^_~
hS
We watched the first two episodes. By we I mean my whole family except my two youngest siblings. By first two episodes I mean the first two from the 2005 revamp season and onwards.
First episode: I am now freaked out.
Second episode: I am quite impressed.
The cast is fantastic, and I loved the theme music only a few seconds after it began playing. So yeah, it's pretty good so far. My dad couldn't stop laughing.
By the way, when does this first revamp Doctor die? What episode does he die in? I just want to know the episode number, nothing else please. I don't want to look it up for fear I'll get too many spoiler details.
OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH AHhhhhhhHhhh Ok I know Rose is annoying at first but then you'll grow to love her so much oh god asdfghjkl;lkrjfhvxbca oh god ROSE ROSE
^^And that is a prime example of what Doctor Who does to a person! Don't watch it at night though, it can be really scary.
I don't really like Rose: I found her to be rather boring, actually. I just really hate it whenever the Doctor is given a romance arc: yet another reason 12 is the best Doctor we've had in a while.
Now, Donna on the other hand...
I think every companion comes to love the Doctor, in different ways, because there's a lot of different kinds of love. Hell, the smartest thing Homestuck ever did was recognise that there's at least four (and it cribbed that from a GCSE RS lesson). It's there when they keep coming back to him, it's there when Sarah Jane and Jo waited and waited, it's there in people who barely even met him want to come away with him. You live him. And if the stars are coming right, and the wind's in the west, then he might just love you back.
Time Lords touch the world lightly. They have to. They're like Tolkien's elves; immortal, save by the hand of another or themselves. They're also like Greek gods, in a way; proud and strong, but flawed, and not always right, and not always even good. We're all aware of what Greek gods did repeatedly to mortals (in a variety of positions and with dubious regard for consent), too, so it fits that way as well. The Doctor needed someone to love, because a pet theory of mine is that he sees Earth as a Gallifrey that doesn't have to go wrong, even more so in NuWho; he fell in love with the planet, and especially after losing everything, he wants to love someone. That someone is Rose, and I can't think of anyone more suitable.
Of course it doesn't last. Things don't. But things aren't always beautiful because they last, to correct the line from Age Of Ultron. Sometimes they're beautiful because they're a girl stuck in a loop waiting for something to happen, and then it does. Rose is normal. Rose is a London girl who worked in a department store. Rose is just as messed up as the rest of us, and she's needy, and a little clingy at times... and she's smart, and she's courageous, and she wins. In a small way. She gets the life she wants.
Time Lords touch the worlds they visit only lightly.
Worlds are allowed to touch them back.
You have a very good point about love and the Doctor's relationship with Earth and its inhabitants. I never thought about it that way.
It's more of a personal thing. Whenever I see love or romance or something on TV or in a book my brain just disconnects and I can't really relate to the situation. It really sucks because a) love is everywhere and b) not even my favourite TV show is safe from this. The concept of love is not even logical, either.
Will anyone be safe from the terrifying disease of -- LOVE?
(srsly tho you have no idea how much you're sounding like a character from a b-movie rn)
I just look at the entire situation and realize that it's another iteration of the prisoner's dilemma. The Nash equilibrium sits at "defect" instead of "cooperate": it's safer to keep to yourself than showing a vulnerable side in any situation.
"I read Baby's First Logical Thought Experiments and think I came to some interesting conclusions."
This conversation is not even remotely worth continuing.
If there's a logical hole in SeaTurtle's position, point it out - politely. Don't flip over to behaviour that can be read as 'I wash my hands of you puny mortals'. ^_~
hS
SeaTurtle, do you in any way identify as asexual or aromantic?
Not sure what my sexual orientation has to do with this but I'm not asexual or anything.
Your little logic puzzle approach to love is immensely disrespectful to people who are asexual or aromantic. You're reducing them to the level of the damned Prisoner's Dilemma, and while this may not have been your intent, I'm not of a mind that that makes it okay.
I also get that human speech in any language isn't especially good at expressing really complex stuff about... well, about much of anything, when you get down to it. That's why we have to invent new words all the time. But you taking the stance that love is just a Nash equilibrium when there have been more studies and papers written on it than you've had hot dinners? Disrespectful, self-satisfied, and totally bloody asinine.
I'm out.
... it was more disrespectful to people who aren't a-whatnot, since it consists of claiming they fail at basic logic?
But since this is clearly a button-pushing issue, I agree with your decision to voluntarily end the conversation. I'm sorry if I pushed you back into it.
hS
...and come back to me being disrespectful towards asexuals. I'm not too sure about that: they're not looking to pursue relationships so they don't have to deal with the Prisoner's Dilemma model, right?
Anyways, I'd just like to clear up my logic to prevent any further misunderstandings: I don't get why people pursue romantic relationships because it's far too easy to get hurt. Seriously: the odds are stacked against you. That's why I'm saying that it's not logical-- why are people fighting battles where they almost certainly won't win? Mad props to those who succeed, though: they're the real heroes here.
...aaaaaand that's pretty much all I have to say on the issue. Let's wrap it up here and move on.
That's a risk you take in a relationship. Yes, the odds are stacked against you. Yes, you will probably go through some very difficult things. But finding the right person and making it work, even if it is short-lived, can be the most wonderful feeling in the world. It's a deep connection unlike anything else in the world, and while it may be illogical and baffling to explain, it's just another aspect of life.
If you go into a relationship with a mindset of "this may be doomed to fail" or "everything will be perfect", you just end up sabotaging yourself. Simply enjoy the time you have with that person. Even if it doesn't work out, chances are you'll learn from the experience and be more prepared for the next time.
People fight these battles because of the potential for a lasting connection. Some risks are worth taking.
Anyway, just my two cents on this. I hope this won't reignite the issue... I just wanted to say something.
The first time I watched that one was at a sleepover with a friend. In the middle of the night. When we went to bed, we kept staring at this little angel statue she had before finally putting it outside and locking the door. XD
Was "The Impossible Planet", over my dad's shoulder. I scared the living lights out of me, and I didn't even watch it at night or something.
Now those are high-octane nightmare fuel creatures right there.
Hivemind, guys. Never a good idea.
Something that can take over people's minds and start predicting what others will say before they say it is terrifying enough, but considering we never found out what it was? Nothing Is Scarier, indeed.
I would have to say the scariest villains were definitely the Cybermen. They're tough, they assimilate you, and they really are the antithesis of humanity.
...where was I? Right, why the Daleks are the best villains. You see, the Daleks can never truly stay dead. They just keep coming back, and they hate everything. What could possibly be scarier than facing them?
...so yeah, that's why The Master takes the title of best villain. He's pretty much the Anti-Doctor.
Anyway, that's why I hate Weeping Angels.
...to make forgetting why you walked into a room scary.
Well, thanks for making me super-paranoid, because that happens to me ALL THE TIME.
Do you madly ship 9/Rose yet? Because you either do or you don't by the end of the first few episodes. I'm one of the ones who do, but each to their own...
or... 10th, but that's a story for another day.
Still, the episode you are looking for is the last episode of season 1 "The Parting of the Ways."
So, what is Your opinion on Christoper Eccleston so far? :D
Well... Witty, really really funny with a dry, sarcastic humor, though his face would say otherwise. His face is too cheery for the character's type of humor, but I don't know wether that's good or bad. He smiles so much it's clear he's having a blast in the role. But when he's serious, get out of the way, people. He murders with angry eyes... Or at least his funny completely vanishes.
And he looks kinda cute, in my opinion.
But anyway, yeah, he's a good actor. If he's the tenth, then I'm interested in how the rest of the Doctors will be like, how he'll be potrayed down the line.
Whatever happened to that poor alien janitor? I liked her. :( I know, I know, she most likely died. So good thing to know: There are aliens who have European ancestry in the future. But none of the other aliens sounded British/English/whatever the term is, I honestly don't know what the proper label is.
After the 50th Anniversary Special Episode, their timeline gets a little messed up, but, at the beginning - until season 7 I believe - Chris was the Ninth Doctor. Personally, my favorite, as of now, is Twelfth :D
Anyway, have a great marathon - maybe?. I am also very curious about your reactions to future episodes :D
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Because the War Doctor didn't consider himself worthy of the title "Doctor" that he'd picked.
He's the tenth incarnation of the Time Lord commonly known as 'the Doctor'. Besides, Hurt's character is usually referred to as the War Doctor... which is still calling him a Doctor. He's either a Doctor or not; you can't have it both ways.
(This always gets me annoyed, sorry.)
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Use the Ceasar Cipher to talk about spoilers! :3
Here is an online tool that will decrypt it for you. But I agree, just mark spoilers as such.
This is worse than finding that the book you're reading is half-textspeak (actually happened to me once). Let's just stick to marking spoilers, OK?