Subject: My opinion on singing
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Posted on: 2015-04-09 23:00:00 UTC
It is something that some people can find difficult to adequately portray in writing. I agree that there is not anything too problematic with any of the characters that I saw. From the skeletal form they seem fine.
…and the Pit doesn't allow C&P anymore… *Sigh* I think I'll have to rewrite everything. So I'll go do that first.
First, how many Elder Scrolls games have you played? I am assuming only Skyrim, as you list that game as his home continuum, rather then Elder Scrolls. That is not something that needs to be fixed, necessarily, but I felt I should point it out. Then again, Za was only used as a prefix in Arena and Daggerfall, so perhaps you played more then I thought.
Where is Za’kiir from? Was he born in Elsweyr, or, well, elsewhere? If Elsweyr, which region? The vast deserts of Anequina, or the jungles of Pelletine? This is important, as it may help with personality and culture. The Khajiit from Anequina are desert nomads, fighting in tribes amongst each other. Think Arabic influences. Meanwhile, Pelletine is the center of trade, nobility (such as Khajiit have nobility, save the Mane) and production. If from Pelletine, Za'kiir may be a merchant, or a moon sugar producer (the main export of Elswyr), or a guardsman.
However, what if Za'kiir hails from another land? Cyrodiil, or Morrowind, or even Skyrim? Then, ask yourself, why was he from there? Was he born in one of those provinces? Did he travel there for trade? Became a sell-sword? If from Morrowind, was he a slave who recently found freedom, due to the collapse of the Dunmer nation? Or, was he from Elswyr, and was banished to one of the other lands?
You mentioned he has a pension for hoarding shiny objects. Where did this come from? Both meta-contextually, and in-character. I have a slight suspicion this arose from the stereotype about Khajiit being a race of thieves. Don't worry, the stereotype is mostly true. However, I want to be sure you understand why they have this reputation. First, and foremost, is because of Khajiiti ideas of ownership. Let me paint you a short scenario.
Lets say a Khajiit man is hired at a local good store. The shop owner tells him to move some inventory upstares. The Khajiit does so, and continues doing so for a while. Eventually, he gets hungry. Upstairs, he sees a fish on a barrel. Being hungry, he takes the fish, and eats it. When the shopkeeper finds out, he fires the Khajiit and has him arrested for theft. Khajiit is confused as the guards drag him off to prison. He stole nothing! He only ate a fish!
To you and me, it is clear that the fish belonged to the shopkeeper. However, to the Khajiit, it was just a fish out in the open. Had the fish been labeled that it belonged to the shopkeeper, then the Khajiit would not have taken it. Well, at least, not without compensation. As it was, it was just a dead fish out in the open. Who owns every fish in the world? It belonged to nobody, and so now belonged to Khajiit.
However, more pertinent to you character, is the second ideal of Khajiit. That of cleverness. The cat people of Elswyr pride themselves on cleverness, and one way of showing that cleverness is to take things that belong to others. What matters to the Khajiit is intention. Did they steal it for the thrill of taking what belongs to others? For showing how light their fingers, and quick their paws? For the glory of breaking through impenetrable defenses? Then, all is forgiven, and Khajiit is praised for their cleverness. However, if it is out of selfishness, or greed, then they are among the worst of Khajiiti society. They could even be banished, should it be heinous enough.
Basically, what I need is back story. Even if we never directly see it, or have it only slightly alluded too, or even never mentioned at all, it is still a good idea to have the back story in mind. I love the Elder Scrolls seres, and would be happy to help you through the lore, if you need it. Short of that, I will need to see him in action before I can juge further.
I couldn't find a Skyrim-based generator, so I used a general one; also I did not know there were differences in naming. I have never played any of TES games, unfortunately - don't have any of the platforms.
Anyway, thank you. I will go back over his profile and rethink it.
What's your address?
evilaiuberoverlord at the google
I agree with much of what was said above. This is a pretty good introduction to the Khajiit from a lore standpoint. I was going to ask what exact Kajiit breed you were going to go with a Cathay-raht or Cathay will be very different from a Senche.
For naming conventions this is a pretty comprehensive naming guide for Khajiit.
Though I do not see anything too problematic, just areas to add a bit more fleshing out.
Yeah, I know the generator you're talking about. A very good one, but covers every game. Still, if it was in one game, it's canon.
Just slightly curious, why did you make a Khajiit character without playing any of the games? I am not saying you shouldn't have made one or anything, just wondering.
If you want any ideas for how to build him, I would be happy to throw some ideas around. Perhaps if you give me editing permission to the character doc, we could slam something out. My email is tds3ak with the Google e mail service.
tds3ak(at)gmail.com
I need a direct email, as best as you can post it.
Skyrim was the first of the series I heard about, and therefore my favorite. The Khajiits always interested me, with their reputation and third-person speech, a distinct foreign feel. Also, I love cats in general.
And like I said, I don't have the platforms for the game or the money to get them. But the graphics in Skyrim are AMAZING, especially in the wilderness. You know what I mean. Such detail... It makes me giddy thinking about the effort put even into a butterfly's design.
Skyrim is beautiful, and has a lot of great things going for it. I, myself, and partial to Oblivion, but that's because it was the first one I ever played. Morrowind is very good, but hard to get into if you are used to modern RPGs. It plays very much like a pen and paper RPG with graphics.
You have a computer, right? Steam is free, and the Elder Scrolls games are often on sale. I am sure your computer can at least handle Morrowind, which many consider the best of the games. It is not near as pretty as Skyrim, but would still give you an idea about how these games handle the lore.
>mfw
...the word you're looking for is "Morrowind".
I think I accidentally read the title as "Marrowind" awhile back, and ever since then I've been stuck with that automatic typo. I pronounce it that way too! *Groan*
They made a "version" for Mac, but in reality, it's the PC code wrapped into another code for the Mac, but you have to download stuff to make it for. Even then, it could mess up the computer.
I do have a Steam account though.
For the record, it's spelled Elsweyr. I spelled it right a few times, but just to be clear, this is the right spelling.
Her goal, above all else, was to find a way back to Elsweyr. She doesn't want to stay too long in Skyrim, only as long as needed. Thus, when she finds out she's Dragonborn, instead of telling the king, she runs away, trying to hide from it. Also because she's afraid of being recognized as a prisoner at Helgen. It's all a matter of how long she can fight her "destiny."
There my favorite race in Skyrim.
Za'kiir has a lot of fun quirks that will facilitate funny situations, but you haven't really defined a personality for him except that he jumps to conclusions.
Natalie seems like a good start, though I personally would consider making her have a different weapon of choice than Za'kiir.
The only real problem I can see right now is that these two have the potential to spend all there time bickering(Za'kiir has all these quirks, while Natalie gets annoyed easily). It would be fun to see these two forced to grow together and round each other out, but if that never happens they might just end up hating each other.
Like Des said, though, it's hard to be sure without seeing them in a story. Still, it looks like you're off to a good start.
Right now, I can't even view it, let alone comment on it.
I think I said this before? I suck at judging characters from summaries.
That said, no Sue traits that I see. Natalie's singing should be portrayed realistically, of course.
It is something that some people can find difficult to adequately portray in writing. I agree that there is not anything too problematic with any of the characters that I saw. From the skeletal form they seem fine.
