Subject: Re: *waves*
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Posted on: 2013-07-14 16:57:00 UTC
Hm, I'm under the impression that it's too late, as I'm positive my eyes aren't normally consumed in gray fire. Yes! Yet another notebook to join my army! Rise, notebooks and destroy the world with your mind blowing words! Thanks for the recruit!
Hello. They call me A.R., for my username, you see, and I just came over here to see how this works. I found the FAQ: The Board article somewhat confusing, but that just may be me. My friend, Hannah, sent me here while we were writing a tale of twisted plot lines. She and I were soon drawn in to a discussion of Mary-Sue type traveling, and it went on from there.
This happened quite a time ago and I was trawling through my incredibly clogged-up inbox when I discovered the link once again. Hannah and I decided we would like to see how this site works, so here I am. Hello, beautiful, glorious- you know what, I'm just going to be quiet and figure out how beautiful and glorious this place is.
Welcome to the PPC. From the looks of that long thread that somehow got attached to yours, it seems that you're getting a good crash course in what we here at the PPC are.
But enough of that: time for your newbie gift.
*rummges through bag of holding*
Here! Have a snowglobe with a replica of your favorite fictional city in it!
Thanks for the snow globe! I may have broken it however, because it can't decide what my favorite fictional city is. Let's go with a model of Hogwarts for now, eh?
Hey there! Welcome to the PPC! Feel free to don a 'deep-thinking' hat on as you pass in through the doorway, and grab a Kookie as well.
Haha, thanks! But, please, what is a Kookie? Is it a smaller super-deformed version of yourself? My deep-thinking hat is my Kumajiro. He likes being on my head.
Have a toaster! It's polka-dotted in Suvian colors, and shoots pastries at high velocity!
Thanks! I have enough problems with toasters already however, meaning I start screaming in shock whenever my toast pops up. I like toast with Nutella.
Greetings, new friend! Have an unwritten novel!
May I ask what you found confusing about the Board FAQ? We would love to hear what we can do to improve it.
It didn't seem to specify what I should expect when I came on here. So, at first I drifted towards the live-talk one and nearly crashed my computer. *cue embarrassed laughter* Also, there are so many threads on here that I wasn't sure where to start.
Thanks for the unwritten novel, by the by. Those are the best kinds.
Here, have this little mathom given to me by old Loray Proudfoot. He's my uncle's second cousin eight times removed on the maternal side if you count the third marriage of his neighbor's goldfish, if you follow. I'm not quite sure what it is, but it looks a bit like an Oliphaunt, and he swore it was real ivory. Got too many legs, though...
I'm baselessly assuming that you're a Tolkien fan, because I'm not in a logical mood. If you are not, I apologize for the loss of brain cells you surely just suffered through, and here's a red velvet cupcake for your newbie gift.
Welcome! :)
-- Len
Thanksies much for the mathom, now what is it? Nope, no Tolkien here unless you count the times I've read the Hobbit. Love that book, but can't seem to get into Lord of the Rings. Unfortunate, really.
Pfft. What loss of brain cells? I had none to begin with. Ooh, cupcake! *bites, then pauses* Anyone lose a cell phone in here? Cause I think I found one. Oh, no, wait, it's my nonexistent one. Never mind. XD
Meh, since I'm too lazy to explain, here's the Urban Dictionary definition...
1. A regift. A relatively trivial object that has repeatedly been given as a present. Strictly, a mathom is probably NOT an object with a tendency to decay (i.e. fruitcake), nor an object of obviously poor construction (i.e. a crooked handmade sweater or junk), nor a family heirloom or a useful "hand-me-down" article (i.e. toddler clothing), nor one which requires expensive upkeep (i.e. a large, exotic pet -- a proveribial white elephant).
Such objects most likely persist because they are slightly too valuable or unusual to dispose of outright or give to Goodwill, yet have such limited use or appeal that few wish to retain them. Modern-day candidates for mathomhood are commonly visible in catalogs for novelty electronics, pop art, junk jewelry, and sports memorabilia, as well as in roadside "local" gift stores.
"It was a tendency of hobbit-holes to get cluttered up; for which the custom of giving so many birthday-presents was largely responsible. Not, of course, that the birthday-presents were always new; there were one or two old mathoms of forgotten uses that had circulated all around the district; but Bilbo had usually given new presents and kept those that he received."
-- J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring, p. 65.
2. A term coined by JRR Tolkien, meaning an object given as a present to someone who does not want it. This person then gives it to someone else at an appropriate occasion. The object passes to the majority of people in the area over time, becoming a mathom.
Ah, now I get it. Thanks. But why does it have legs? And why is it now playing the organ? You have given me a spider version of Lurch, haven't you?
Uh hi? I am the creator of an orginization called the Sue Slayers. Its basically the same as the PPC and I was wondering if our orginizations could link up. The ppc seems pretty inactive though...
If you want the Sue Slayers to become a part of the PPC, that might be difficult, depending on writing styles and so on.
If, instead, you want the SS and PPC to exist in the same multiverse and talk occasionally (which in my view would be far more interesting), that's a lot easier. In fact, I'm currently working on a story which would be exactly the place for that to happen. If you're interested in a possible Sue-Slayers-allied-with-the-PPC appearance (cowritten with you, I'm guessing), drop me an email at huinesoron (at) hotmail (dot) com.
Either way - can we have a look? It's always nice to liaise with other portions of the Canon Protection Initiative. The PPC itself is far from inactive - a reasonably complete list of our collective missions can be found here.
hS
Yep, you hit the nail on the head. We have 10 people, excluding me. We would all like to join your community, while existing in a group of our own.
Which is to say, what sort of creatures do you typically find, what's your working model of the multiverse, that sort of thing. From the looks of your name and your alleged "being the same" as the PPC, I suspect that at least a portion of the creatures you encounter are Mary Sues of some description, but aside from that, I'm not sure what your organization is, so to speak. I found one story on fanfiction.net under the Sue Slayers title, but I don't know if it was connected to you, so I'm treating it as apocryphal until I get a yes or no from you or one of your co-writers.
Now, to more questions. What's your mission statement? What sort of organizations, creature types, or miscellany commonly oppose your group? What are typical problems or complications encountered by your elite squad of canon protectors? What's the species range like for said squad?
Also, anything else you'd think would be good to know. I tend to like details, and the presence of a new inter-dimensional organization is likely going to have a large number of them.large
Do you have a wiki? A wiki would help. Those tend to have as many terms as one would want, and would answer several of my previous questions.
Well,we really don't have a wiki. There's only 11 people, and we all are writing a relly big fanfic at the moment, to try to kickstart our project. If you read in the Artemis Fowl fandom, that's good, you can read ot and get some answrs. Otherwis, I'm doing another one in Harry Potter.
Our unofficial motto is 'Mary Sue? I shoot You.' We go against Mary Sues, but our otjer concerns are fangirls. The Canon charactersca't see r hear them, ut if they accidenty touch them, the Cano can suddenlysee them and the fangirl squees, which is like glomphing. We have to o in and remove the Sues and Fangils.
We get people to wtite us in and ot of fanfics.
I hope this answrs some of your quesytins. And the reason theres so many spelling mistakes is... Im typing on a mobile device.
That is a loooot of weird word manglings. If that's what typing on a mobile phone looks like, I will never post to the Board from one. Your mobile phone wouldn't happen to be hosting a grammasite nest, would it?
I still have questions. A few are questions from before:
What are the species in your canon protection squad? For example, the PPC has a vast amount of species, including humans, elves, krogans, fairies, undead, living typos, ex-Jedi, etcetra, all led by telepathic plants.
What species do you have?
What's the working model of the multiverse you use? A trans-dimensional organization needs to have an idea of how each dimension operates. For example, in the PPC, the Agents enter into Word Worlds created by bad fanfiction that leech off of the central continuum, which contains the canon. Once in the offshoot, they destroy it by killing a Sue, untangling a crossover, exorcizing a Sue-wraith or slash demon, etcetera, to reassert the canon. It gets more complicated from there, but not all of the more complicated bits are commonly agreed upon, so they're just theories in-universe.
How does your organization treat the multiverse and the concept of a multiverse?
What type of creatures do you encounter in the assorted continua? For example, the PPC Agents can find Sues, minis, wraiths of varying description, Cute Animal Friends, entities called into being by misspellings or odd word placement, and more.
You mentioned that you encounter Sues and fangirls, but what other creatures do your canon protectors have to deal with?
Now, a few more questions:
How do the fangirls get in? Are they doing it on purpose, or is something dropping them there? If the former, how are they able to enter a canonical universe, and if the latter, why is whatever it is dropping random fangirls off-world?
How do these fangirls relate to the fangirls of quote-unquote Real Life? Sues in PPC missions are created by an instance of bad fanfiction written by a person in Real Life, often a fangirl or fanboy of some description.
However, fangirls or fanboys in Real Life do not have the power to turn invisible or emit mind-piercing squees (ear-piercing squees is another matter). So, why can this breed of fangirl do it? Were they modified by something? Is it a Narrative Error? Do the canon characters just stalwartly ignore the fangirls until said fangirls emit their squee?
Also, what does the squee do? Does it damage the canon characters in some way, or is it just annoying and serving to keep them from fulfilling their duties?
What supplies your organization with its advanced capabilities? In order to hop from world to world, there must be something extraordinary involved, such as magic, advanced technology, both, or another force altogether. Additionally, it's probable that there's some sort of specialized equipment to make it easier to handle the Sues, or to detect their presence, or something of the sort, to give the canon protectors the edge. If there is, what is it, and who created that?
One last question, a bit less important, but a curiosity: Who's in charge? Does someone lead your canon protectors, and if so, how did he/she/it get elevated to the position of leader?
woooo. That's a lot of questions. Okay, first can I just say that we wanted to join up because youre so uch more organized than us.
To business.
We are all humans. Each of us has a separate job, for example, I coordinate it all. My friend, Kat, takes care of keeping track of the bad writers. And so on.
Our model of the FanFiction universe goes like this: There's tthe mnormal world, whee people write FanFiction and go about their lives. We call thes Area 52. Then there's the area weere we and related organizations work on. es and Fangirls probably live here, we dont knoow. This is the transdomain. Then there's Canon Verses, one forach bfandom. These are the same as area 52 but they have the canon nd settings in them. The lat area is The Fanaaes. And this is where the fanfictions are.
Wr enter the canon/fanon verses when a specialist (Usually Jaxon) writes us in to a fanfiction. He noramall just adds a sentences (Then Kitty Eden appeared) but sometimes he goes evjil and adds a pegeg to us or something.
From there, we hake out the evils in the usual way: Tranquilizers for Fangirls, Sue Serum for sue related.
We have about 20 varieties of fangirls, includedng th superSonic Squeer an the rare Emo. Theres also plotholes that confuse evrtyting Round it (hermione is suddenly dumb). The Fangirls get inon purpose usually, by sneaking in after us or sues ar through fanomportals.
The sues nd fangirls are created the same as ppc ones.
The ft that fangirls are invisible to canon is normal in our world.Also, squees do not form any permanant damage, but are really ad for your eardrium. Plus the ft that its annoying.
All of us just got letters in the mail insttuvting us to come to the same place at a time. And we ended up at SSHQ. All of the equipment was there plusinstructins on how to do it.
And I am the commander, I gess.
From the looks of it, it seems as though you're framing the fangirls as a different species, as though they're related to the usual sort of fangirls conceptually, but they have various special abilities, live in an alternate dimension, and can create "fanomportals", which I'm guessing are some variety of cross-continuum transit.
Are these normal fangirls that got trapped in the transdomain zones and turned into some sort of hyper-elevated beings because of it? Are they physical versions of common fangirl archetypes? What gave them their powers and distinctions?
Wait, so the fangirls don't have the ability to interact with people in the canon continua because... the canon characters weren't native to the same place the fangirls were? I need a little more information here. It sounds like you're saying "characters from books can't see or hear their readers when they're playing out their story, so they would still be unable to see or hear them even when those readers were placed in the same room as those canon characters, yet the canon characters would still be able to interact with their readers by touch", which doesn't make a lot of sense.
Also, why are the fangirls considered a threat? Will they summon other fangirls if they're left alone for long enough? Do they attempt to remove canon characters from the continuum? I acknowledge that if they're allowed to run rampant around the continuum, they'll cause damage eventually, because they're fangirls, but what are the ones that cause trouble for your group normally capable of? I read some of one of your stories, and it looks like your canon protectors aren't averse to making canon characters aware of their presence or altering events in the story progression to reach their quarry, so the motivation for getting rid of the fangirls can't be removal of foreign elements for the sake of preserving the story as written.
You said your Specialists are capable of altering the Fanaaes, or fanfiction-created realities, to insert you into the badfic, but can they edit the badfic in any other way? I'll accept that they couldn't or shouldn't just edit the badfic to remove the Sue's influence, since that would be too easy, but can they, say, alter some descriptive text to turn the tables on the Sue during a fight, or to make temporal distortions less unbearable?
Saying "the usual way" implies that you expect that I'd already know what Sue Serum is or how it works, but I don't. Is it made from Sues? Is it used against Sues to shut off their powers or turn their abilities against them? Do your canon protectors consume it to counteract Suvian abilities?
The fangirls are jut normal humansthat have learnt how to squeal reallyloudly and have caught portals into the transcontinum. The reason that canon characters can't see them isthat they havent ben written into the story. The Canon cant feel them either, but if they accidently walk into the spot a fangirl isoccupying, the fangirl becomes visible and uually squees. The only way they could get in through a fanonportal is if a mary sue creates one.
Fangirls only uually hunt out their lust objects in ones or ts, but occasionally they form a group of 50 r more, which we call a squee. They usually do this to grouply get their lust objects. Tanya and Kobey take care of this type of thing, but we sometimes all go in.
D like to point out that stories by EpitomeOfRandomness are not the same as what I describe ht share some characteristics, ut we are seperate
Sue serum is made from fangirl drool and some other ingredients uch as extract of bluehole. You load it into a tranquilizer dart andvhhoot it at the sue. They melt. theres a sepert srum for stus. Either serum is highly dngros to canoniharactrcal c
... that the very nature of our (collective) job means that inconsistant or even wildly contradictory views of the fanfiction phenomenon aren't a problem. There's a fair amount of stuff in your version that wouldn't work in the PPC - but who cares? When you're in and out of fictional realms every day of the week, you tend to take a looser view of 'reality'. Heck, what with differing Multiverse Theories and perpetual disagreements on where PPC HQ is and how it works, out agents can't even agree among themselves. I have an organisation (Ispace) who claim that writing stories is the only way to change reality - and it's true, for them.
I don't think you (or rather your characters) should or even could join the PPC, as in becoming Agents in a Department and living in HQ, at least not without massive changes. But then, I don't think there's a need. As I hope I've said earlier, liasons are good, and you and your friends (er, if your friends are real people - you've blurred the border between the SS and yourself quite thoroughly) are more than welcome to come and hang out in the PPC community. We'd love to see your story/stories when you finish them (if you take a look down this Board, you can see we post our own PPC stories on here to share), and I'm positive people would offer you helpful, constructive advice on your writing (which we're all after, by the way!).
And maybe at some point someone can write a joint mission with you. Eek - two wildly different Trans-Dimensional Organisations working together in the field, that sounds exciting...
hS
PS#1: I can't quite tell... do you have stories/a story up on the internet somewhere yet, or is it still in the works?
PS#2: Wow, your mobile device really doesn't like you. Have you had it checked for malevolent artificial intelligences recently?
Hi! My friends are real people by the way so stop insulting them by saying they arnt. Yeah, I guess Id like to be a member oe working on my own. I like the PPCs ideas, theyre more well set out.
A join mission sounds cool, some of us can collaborate with you guysyou can chec out the other SS on fanfiction. We got spme of our ideas from omeone called EpitomeOfRandomness. Theres a tiny bit of swearing.
I was bragging to my friend Kat that I was really god at mobile texting. And the Ironic Overpower was there. Sooooo...
I couldn't tell from your posts whether you and your friends were writing about the Sue Slayers, or whether you were writing about a character with the same name as you who was a Sue Slayer with her (fictional) friends. That was all.
The problem with saying we can check it out on fanfiction.net is that searching throws up 56 stories with 'Sue Slayer' in the title. I see a couple by Epitome, who you said you were inspired by, but other than that, I'm lost. Can you give a link to your story/stories?
hS
We've got a krogan in here? Do you know who writes him/her and which department they're in?
Oh, and about the Word Worlds: the wiki says it's actually just a fancy word for "continuum", so it's not really like a bubble-space leeching off the main canon. It is the canon world. Badfic is sort of like the plaque on the teeth of the multiverse, and we are the dentists who help clean it off.
We also give healthy brushing writing tips to authors in need too. Or at least we try to.
Firebird776 created a DMS krogan named Frag to help out in the battle for the International Academy of Hetalia Fanfiction. As far as I know, he hasn't got any mission logs of his own, but he's appeared in interludes, like this one.
There might be more of his species around, but I've never seen another one named in a story.
I was also planning on creating another krogan for the Department of Internal Affairs when I finally actually get around to writing my Blackout interlude, but I'd need Permission first, and I've not gotten my Permission piece finished because I keep looking at the concepts I'm using and metaphorically crumpling them up. Sorry for putting you on beta-reading hold for that.
I didn't know that the continuum itself was treated as a Word World, though I suppose since it's shaped by the canon, it might as well be. I was just using the Word World concept to make the explanation of the multiverse a little simpler. I don't want to get into the conflicting Multiverse Theories without going into the cosmological basics first.
...the PPC is far from inactive. *Ahem!* What you see before you is only the posting board, a sort of slow-paced forum. The real gruntwork is done by members writing their missions and sporking badfic. There are also lots more branches of general... stuff... going on, like interludes (though I'm not quite sure what they are, honestly), the Wiki, roleplays, and so on. :D
There is already a Department of Mary Sues, so I'm not sure how compatible the two organizations would be to each other, but of course that's not my place to decide. What exactly did you have in mind with the "linking?"
-- Len
Interludes are stories set in the PPC-verse that happen between missions. They can be recovery from missions, a glimpse into agents' backstories, a view of how some other part of the universe works, an encounter between two agents that wouldn't meet normally, etc.
See my answers to the others
Well, in theory a duly constituted authority could facilitate said linkage. But, the writing style may be incompatible. Also, one must consider that if you link, you may have to answer to a new set of rules. Out of curiosity, how many members are in the the SS? Tens, hundreds, thousands?
10 people. handpicked, and very well trained
Well, hello there, new friend! As your newbie gift, I give you a lined Infinite Notebook, complete with urple covers and wilver binding for your very own. Just... try not to hurt your eyes.
-Aila
Hm, I'm under the impression that it's too late, as I'm positive my eyes aren't normally consumed in gray fire. Yes! Yet another notebook to join my army! Rise, notebooks and destroy the world with your mind blowing words! Thanks for the recruit!
I haven't the foggiest what you are trying to say, but have a Dall's porpoise! If you are joining, that would be your gift. If you are already a boarder, have said porpoise regardless! As for quite and glorious, its glorious how many strange dimensions a boarder's brain can work in, and beautiful that these messages are silant text rather than noise. Otherwhise we would all go deaf. Toodles, aloha, and whatever other greetings!
Well, as long as you don't know and I'm not going completely bonkers with trying to figure out exactly what I'm supposed to be saying, hi! Ooh! A porpoise! Fun! I shall pick up said porpoise and run about my house with it and therefore drive everyone within completely mad! And no, I'm not British, although I do indeed like the language!