Subject: Ew, Harry
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Posted on: 2014-12-19 01:59:00 UTC
Stoked to finally see this up! Grats on mission 5, and the next one will be quite entertaining...
Subject: Ew, Harry
Author:
Posted on: 2014-12-19 01:59:00 UTC
Stoked to finally see this up! Grats on mission 5, and the next one will be quite entertaining...
Enjoy!
I stated it in the disclaimer, but trigger warnings include an abusive, stalkerish character and one assassination gets a teensie bit graphic.
Great mission, just when I think badfics can't get any worse I get proved wrong every time.
That's just as bad as inviting the Ironic Overpower for tea and handing it a list of 'everything I hope never happens'.
Okay, maybe not as bad, but it's still inviting trouble. :P
It's a good mission overall, but I've noticed a recurring trend in your missions. You seem to typically focus more on expanding Rina's character than Randa's. The Ranger's Apprentice mission departs from this trend somewhat, but even there the conclusion focuses mostly on Rina's family.
It's a perfectly logical situation; since Rina is your own character, I'm guessing you feel more comfortable fleshing her out than you do establishing facts about a character that you're borrowing. However, it gives off an overall feel that Rina is the main character and Randa is her sidekick, as opposed to them getting equal billing, so to speak. I enjoy you writing and character development, so I'd like to see more of it for Randa as well!
I am really trying to avoid that, but it's hard. And Randa, though she looks it over and gives me the thumbs up, isn't quite as...invested? It's partly why I'm planning on bringing in a new agent later on. After the first mission, which we did together, I think Randa's enthusiasm kind of petered out.
But we are hoping to tackle My Inner Life after the next mission, and Randa has a personal vendetta to settle with this one. Actually, since I know practically nothing about the Zeldaverse, she's gonna be spearheading that project.
Makes sense. Maybe you could ask her where she sees the character going? I did really like the bit where Randa was upset about the Sue's drawing skills, because it was something she really had to work at.
I gotta tell you, I don't envy you going after that one. Good luck!
Even without knowing the continuum, the fic had me tearing at my hair and at one point I actually had to go get some hot chocolate because I was so upset.
Randa has a pretty funny idea for the execution, so I'm only able to tolerate the fic because of that. Ugh.
Man, did that Sue get all of her knowledge of romance from Twilight?
*shudders at the thought*
On a different note, however, it seems that I have not caught any grammar errors! There is, however, a paragraphing error. You need a paragraph break before the sentence Randa sat next to her friend, stroking her hair, since you are switching speakers from Rina to Randa at that point.
And... considering the author's written a bunch of Edward/Bella fics... it's probably safe to say, yes. Yes she did. This is why Twilight scares me.
Because I realised I was about to start listing things, so I handed the job over to Terri.
Your review
hS
You always point out that my missions are too much like an MST. I'm not whining; just pointing this out so I can ask what you think I would do to make my missions better. I'm already a pretty decent way into my next mission, so I'm asking now for feedback so I can nip that in the bud, so to speak.
I know the most obvious response would be 'less quoting of the badfic', and I've really been trying hard to avoid that, but it still seems to happen. What do you suggest?
Okay, um... how about this:
There are three reasons to quote a line from the badfic:
1/ To display a charge, such as a misspelled name, or OOC line.
2/ To show what the characters are doing.
3/ To show off a specific, wording-related issue.
The thing is... the first two don't need to be quoted. If Harry Potter sounds like an elderly man, we don't need to see this:
"You young whippersnappers!" yelled Harry.
"Why does Harry sound like an old fogey?" asked Freckles.
We can gather just from Freckles' line that Harry sounded like an old fogey; the details... aren't all that important.
Similarly, the action of the badfic can be more interestingly portrayed through your own words. Partly that's a style thing - essentially, quoting is how MSTs do it, so paraphrase instead - but partly it's because... well, it's a badfic. If you're letting it tell the story when you can write better than it (and you are a good writer), then you're missing an opportunity to get your words into play.
To take an example, Driftwood mission 5 quotes the badfic in italics maybe five or six times. The first one is to show a specific line that Kaitlyn reacts to - because of the line, not the events. The second is an information-rich paragraph which is just... bewildering. The third is an action which I couldn't come up with an interesting way to paraphrase - there's no need to change everything, after all. The fourth is a spoken line about trivialised rape. The fifth is Hermione declaring in great detail how beautiful Bella is. The sixth is the last line I let them say.
With one exception, I never quoted an action. I described them occasionally in the narrative, but even that feels a bit clumsy sometimes. Mostly I just let the agents react to what was going on, because to my mind, it's the agents I'm there to read about, not (strange though this may sound) the badfic.
Generally, there's two lines I'll quote pretty consistently - the first and the last. Other than that, it's occasional dialogue, and anything where the wording is funny without invoking an unintended effect. If something weird does come of a phrase in the fic, I'll let the agents quote it - like the 'BBBBBBBBBB's they were bombarded with. I didn't need to quote the break, because Selene did it for me.
I'm not saying 'do it this way, only clones of me are acceptable'. Having more quotes than I do is absolutely fine (and part of the reason I have Selene & Kaitlyn step away from the badfic a lot is to keep my word counts down). But doing so extensively just... doesn't feel like it's letting you show off your writing as much as you could.
An example from your story: you quote what I think is the entire 'founders beatify Sue' scene. And yes, it's funny - but did it need quoting? Everything we need to know is contained in Rina's complaint:
"Dear Rowling, even the Founders are in awe of her! And Merlin came after the Founders- he was a Slytherin! They have no reason to be invoking him!"
Tweak that second sentence to something like, 'And Godric wouldn't invoke Merlin - he came after the Founders, and he was a Slytherin!', and you've erased the need to share any of their direct speech.
That's just one example, and it may be that ultimately you'd choose to keep that scene intact anyway for the sheer ridiculousness of it. But I hope it gets at least the gist of my view across. As always, it's yours to agree or disagree with - I'm just hoping to make myself clear.
hS, too many words
It's probably going to be a tough habit to break, but I'll go back to my current (incomplete) draft and check it over, see what I can do. I'm sporking my old badfic, so I'm sorely tempted to rip it to pieces. And then set the pieces on fire. *sigh*
Thanks a lot for the advice; I can't tell you how much that means to me. :)
...that Ginger-Wise has been transferred into the capable hands of TheShyIon.
Now I just have to finish her bio. ;)
I would just like to point out that I hadn't finished betaing it. I get that you're excited to get a new mission out, but in the future could you at least email your beta's to check that they're finished before you post it on the board?
Oh man, I'm so sorry. I hadn't seen any more edits from you and just... assumed you were done.
God, I feel dumb. I'm sorry. It won't happen again.
I probably should of returned to it sooner and finished going through it, so its partially my fault. I can see how you came to that conclusion, and I really should of left a note or something, sorry.
Like I said, don't worry about it.
Storme Hawk
Of is a preposition, and the object of a preposition can't be a verb. It's an understandable mistake since "have" is pronounced like "of", but not one you should have made.
I know how you feel, by the way. That happened to me a few times when I beta-read for SkarmorySilver and sonofheaven. Fortunately everything was spelled right.
Yeah, that was a first-timer's mistake on my part... Especially because the mission in question was so damn long that I thought posting it piecewise was better in the long run. I've made it a point to never write multi-part missions since then. >_
@Iximaz: Great job as always! Though I'm honestly surprised that Rina and Randa didn't feed the Sue and Not!Harry to the Basilisk, given that they executed them to the Chamber of Secrets.
Too many Sues and they'll start getting fat. So I'm going to reserve them for special occasions. The Chamber execution would have been much more poetic if I waited another three chapters like I'd originally planned, but I realized Rina wouldn't have been able to handle it.
Basically, the Sue got introduced to the Order of the Phoenix, Sirius and Remus got WAY out of character, and then Harry started randomly bragging about killing the basilisk.
I am starting to regret feeding my first Sue to Greyback, because the next one... whoo boy.
Stoked to finally see this up! Grats on mission 5, and the next one will be quite entertaining...