Hi, everyone who wasn't actually there: Data Junkie is not misinterpreting, or misremembering, or even just shading the facts: they are flat-out lying.

The incident they were referring to with this:

when we had someone making homophobic remarks, the ones who got in trouble were the people who said that doing so was wrong.

Went roughly like this:

-Someone who had previously made homophobic remarks asked for Permission.
-July denied it on the basis of those previous remarks.
-Some people - myself included - said that a single incident was not grounds for summary banning from the PPC.
-Data Junkie's friends objected, and pointed out that there had been multiple incidents.
-Most of the people who had said Jacer shouldn't be banned retracted and apologised.
-Data Junkie's friends continued to harass, harangue, and flame everyone who dared say that anything they were doing was in any way wrong, including flaming. This behaviour continued through a full rewrite of the Constitution forced through by them.
-The one person who dramatically 'left' at that time later returned, and picked up the same pattern of flaming and harassing anyone who disagreed with them on anything, often on the basis of that same thread.

The bahaviour of the people Data Junkie characterises as 'the ones who got in trouble' was enough to nearly cause myself and Neshomeh to leave the PPC. They did cause at least one newbie to quit. The 'trouble' they received in return was Neshomeh asking them to respect the Constitution.

If you want to read the whole thing, it's here in the archives. Go decide for yourself who 'got in trouble' if you don't believe my account. Was it the person who quit the Board over having the Constitution cited at them, or the people who were yelled into silence every time they said anything?

Or if you can't stomach the original thread, go and read this follow-up to see who was 'in trouble'.

Data Junkie is lying. Data Junkie is trolling. Neshomeh and Scapegrace are right:

Do not feed the trolls.

hS

If he's so hostile because of past issues, he should have brought them up in a rational and reflected way, without trolling and poisoning every thread. He just sunk any credibility as thoroughly as Ken Akamatsu sunk Negima when his editors began acting funny with his author's rights.

Morever, it is years-old evidences. I hope that people are able to change for the best in such time.

I believe my friend's version of events over yours, a person I barely know who I haven't seen do anything but antagonise and throw their toys out of their pram for... well, one assumes attention. Wow. What a truly unpredictable happenstance that nobody could possibly have foreseen.

I would bring up more points here in July's defence, but it'd be completely pointless to do so because you do not argue in good faith. You are here, as far as I'm concerned, for one purpose and one purpose alone; the character assassination of a dear friend. And you think you can get away with it because she snapped at another dear friend of mine who happened to be one of the most popular people on the Board.

Well, you can't.

I'm not a PG. I don't have any power or pull on the Board. But then, neither do you. You're just a toddler howling on the shop floor because Mummy let someone else ride in the trolley instead. I find your attitude not only repugnant but in active breach of everything in the Constitution, and far, far too reminiscent of the vicious, unpleasant little fishwife I used to be to feel comfortable sharing a forum with you.

And hey, maybe other people are akin to secondary targets as well. I wouldn't be too surprised if getting July's friends angry enough to shout at you because of how you treat her is something you consider an added bonus, because it is a Law of the Interwebs that the person who gets angry loses, regardless of why they're so incensed. If so, you really need to look up the Constitution, mister Agent Of Change. Your behaviour is unbecoming of anyone in this community, regardless of whatever perceived slights July threw your way back before you buggered off, and it needs to stop. NOW.

Sorry to rant, chaps, but this needed to be said. Yes, this whole thing is a mess, but Data's just adding to it.

You should really read the Constitution again. Here, let me give you the link. You seem to have difficulties for finding it.

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