Subject: About the banlist.
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Posted on: 2016-03-03 13:49:00 UTC
I'm not sure whether we should do that or not, but Smogon's Monotype banlist is slightly different, compared to its OU banlist.
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PPC Pokémon Tournament rules announcement! by
on 2016-03-03 13:43:00 UTC
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my team by
on 2016-03-04 20:52:00 UTC
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Definitely normal type for me. Can't wait to see how everyone's teams are going to turn out!
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here it is by
on 2016-03-04 21:54:00 UTC
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Called it. (nm) by
on 2016-03-05 09:13:00 UTC
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Might as well... by
on 2016-03-04 16:33:00 UTC
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Congratulations by
on 2016-03-04 18:31:00 UTC
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You have the only team I'm legit worried about. Even though I'm a terrible battler and will probably be knocked out fairly quickly, my team was built to deal with basically everything except a pure-ground team.
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Ditto man, ditto (nm) by
on 2016-03-05 01:41:00 UTC
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[Iron Head intensifies] (nm) by
on 2016-03-05 03:09:00 UTC
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Thank you. I aim to terrify. by
on 2016-03-05 01:33:00 UTC
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I kid, I kid.
I'm also a terrible battler: I subscribe to the school of Rincewind tactics. I figure that if I hit my opponent with a furious flurry of poorly-coordinated yet powerful-ish strikes they won't get up after the first round. Maybe I should consider using those fancy "stall strats" or something :P
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You and me both by
on 2016-03-04 18:37:00 UTC
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Will struggle with a pure ground team. I have a few counters, but not many.
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You nooblets are lucky this year. by
on 2016-03-04 13:53:00 UTC
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Aipom can work. by
on 2016-03-04 14:28:00 UTC
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I used an Ambipom last year and got to the final.
Largely by being the only person in the Cup who played competitive on a regular basis, but w/e. =] -
Well, not the only one. by
on 2016-03-04 14:53:00 UTC
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I just barely scratch by as a competitive player. I will grant, though, that you're much more serious and competent than I, as our battle demonstrated well.
And speaking of! If we meet in the tournament again this year, you'd best believe it won't go that way again. >:D -
Indeed not. by
on 2016-03-04 15:02:00 UTC
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I'm not super experienced with Monotype, so it could and should lead to closer matchups. =]
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I kind of hope to face you again by
on 2016-03-04 17:11:00 UTC
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Get some revenge from last year. Unlike last year I think I have this team fairly well tested. Should be good.
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Clearly, we can't both beat Scape. by
on 2016-03-04 19:29:00 UTC
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Fighting over who gets to beat me, are you? by
on 2016-03-04 19:58:00 UTC
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Assuming you will win? by
on 2016-03-04 22:37:00 UTC
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Assuming either of you will be matched against her? by
on 2016-03-04 22:47:00 UTC
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The random bracket generator gods laugh at your assumptions.
Also, because I think a meme is mandatory at this point:
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Garn by
on 2016-03-04 07:02:00 UTC
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Now I'm beginning to regret that I have virtually no knowledge of Pokémon. Oh well, there's always next year, eh?
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Hey, no worries. by
on 2016-03-04 11:15:00 UTC
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If you really want to participate, I'm sure any one of us would be happy to show you the ropes. It's really not that hard!
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I think I'll pass. by
on 2016-03-04 14:54:00 UTC
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As great as that sounds I think I would prefer to have some more knowledge of the continuum first, but I'll watch and learn. I'm kind of a person who prefers observing, then doing.
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And that someone is me. =] by
on 2016-03-04 11:51:00 UTC
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I am more than happy to give crash courses in battling to anyone willing to put up with me. =]
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I would like that. by
on 2016-03-04 12:35:00 UTC
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So, could I know what do you think of my Ghost team? (And your ID on Pokeshowdon, help and training would be easier with that.)
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I can help as well by
on 2016-03-04 17:07:00 UTC
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My last team did not go so well. But it was also first time I did competitive in well basically ever. That being said, I can build a few sample teams for your Ghosts to go against if you want to work out the kinks. My name over there is EAIUBEROverlord. If I'm logged on I usually hang out in the writing room.
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I volunteer my services as practice dummy by
on 2016-03-04 19:36:00 UTC
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You can fight the conceptual form of team Electric Boogaloo as well as a few other teams I've built for fun. You can tell when I'm online because I'll be in the IRC.
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Thanks to both of you for your propositions. by
on 2016-03-04 20:47:00 UTC
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I'll try to look for you when I'm on this site. Good luck in the tournamnet too.
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Eh, you can start with years-old knowledge and be fine. by
on 2016-03-04 07:52:00 UTC
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In fact, last year's tourney is what got me into the current Pokemon metagame. Like everything else, you learn from experience.
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I know heaps. by
on 2016-03-04 07:12:00 UTC
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Fire boils water, water drowns grass, grass uses fire to photosynthesise.
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Oooh, count me in! by
on 2016-03-04 03:25:00 UTC
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Oh, my mistake. by
on 2016-03-04 03:32:00 UTC
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Switching out Talonflame for Tomoe, Mandibuzz (Dark/Flying).
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Tentative Team Line Up by
on 2016-03-03 22:44:00 UTC
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And to add my substitute by
on 2016-03-04 04:51:00 UTC
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I'll go Arbok
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Switching Venomoth for Arbok as my Sub (nm) by
on 2016-03-04 18:35:00 UTC
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What's a Dragalge? (nm) by
on 2016-03-04 03:16:00 UTC
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Re: What's a Dragalge? by
on 2016-03-04 03:27:00 UTC
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http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Dragalge_(Pok%C3%A9mon)
Basically, a giant leafy sea dragon that can spit acid. And is a dragon. Because dragons.
It's also the first Poison/Dragon type, and a pretty powerful special tank to boot. In other words, the bane of fairies everywhere. -
Current team lineup. by
on 2016-03-03 21:19:00 UTC
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I am switching to water type. by
on 2016-03-05 01:09:00 UTC
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Politoed, Gyrados, Lanturn, Cloyster, Dewgong, Sharpedo and Swampert are my new picks.
Freakin' gimmick with Sigilyph, stored power, roost and cosmic power... Not that I have my own gimmick up my sleeve. -
Erm by
on 2016-03-05 18:52:00 UTC
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I also have Politoed in my team, but it doesn't seem to be in the google docs. Also, Will weather-boosting items be banned? Monotype banns them, but we're playing on different rules, right?
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Whoops, missed that one. by
on 2016-03-05 19:10:00 UTC
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Thanks for poking me. :P
And again, the full banlist is in the doc. -
Again, the banlist is in the doc I linked. by
on 2016-03-03 21:21:00 UTC
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As long as you don't use Salamencite, you're golden.
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Welp, few questions. by
on 2016-03-03 20:56:00 UTC
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Do you need permission? OHKO moves allowed? Species clause? Sure someof these things sound like common sense, but I would try to get away with anything I can. >:)
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A few answers by
on 2016-03-03 21:11:00 UTC
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Smogons rules do not allow for OHKO moves, and I'm fairly certain you do not need permission as this is a community thing and has nothing to do with the stories we write.
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Permission not needed, rules inside. by
on 2016-03-03 21:07:00 UTC
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Here.
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I also have a questions. by
on 2016-03-03 21:12:00 UTC
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1/ What level should Pokemon be at? 100?
b/ Are multiple Pokemon allowed to hold the same item?
Blue/ ... I don't actually have a third question, but I wanted to do that joke. Er... when're you going to change rule 1 to say '2016'? [Ducks]
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I have a few answers. by
on 2016-03-03 21:14:00 UTC
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1) 100 is the level, though feel free to play at a lower level... ;)
b) Yes.
Purple) *wallops* Now. -
Team Level 1 Fire Starters, go! by
on 2016-03-04 11:13:00 UTC
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... I think I want to change my team. :D
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Cuteness... overwhelming... by
on 2016-03-04 11:43:00 UTC
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Will to battle... dissipating...
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*Squeals* by
on 2016-03-03 19:27:00 UTC
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Woo! I have been waiting for this all semester. I'm so in. My team currently is in the works.
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Ahem. by
on 2016-03-04 05:08:00 UTC
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I'm in. by
on 2016-03-03 19:10:00 UTC
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Oookay... by
on 2016-03-03 22:23:00 UTC
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Another change, sort of. by
on 2016-03-04 11:31:00 UTC
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Sableye makes its come-back, and Spiritomb passes substitute. (hopefully that will be the last change)
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(Hopefully) final change. by
on 2016-03-04 20:48:00 UTC
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I would like for Spiritomb to be replaced with Aegislash.
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Someone might need to clarifiy by
on 2016-03-04 22:39:00 UTC
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But Aegislash is banned for Steel teams, why would it be any different for a Ghost team?
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I think... by
on 2016-03-04 22:45:00 UTC
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It might have something to do with the fact that, as part Ghost, it's immune to Steel's otherwise weakness to Fighting.
Just a guess, though; I haven't been able to scrounge anything up. -
We did have it banned outright last time by
on 2016-03-04 22:47:00 UTC
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So to me it seems like it ought to be banned outright again. Just my thinking.
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Yeah, it's Ubers in Smogon. by
on 2016-03-05 09:20:00 UTC
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It ought to stay there.
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Monotype was okay with him. by
on 2016-03-05 21:55:00 UTC
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But if it's really tat much of a problem, You can switch Aegislash with Cofagrigus.
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The problem with Aegislash... by
on 2016-03-05 22:10:00 UTC
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Is how intrinsically versatile it is. It has, via King's Shield and Stance Change, the potential to be an unassailable wall or a remorseless sweeper - physical or special. Whatever you decide to do with it, it can do exceptionally well.
And that's why it was banned from OU, and is being suspected in both OU and Monotype after it came back to the tier. -
Aegislash is now banned. (nm) by
on 2016-03-05 23:03:00 UTC
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Cofragigus it is then. by
on 2016-03-05 22:16:00 UTC
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Guess the less controverse the better.
By the way, would it be possible to have your opinion about the time I created? -
Also, *bundles up Cofragigus the mini-Missingno* by
on 2016-03-05 22:25:00 UTC
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Lawks a-mercy, there's been a few of these chaps knocking about of late. =]
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Sure. Email me the details. by
on 2016-03-05 22:24:00 UTC
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harry heath 99 at the place where the mail is hot dot com, if you haven't got my email address.
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Thank you. (nm) by
on 2016-03-05 22:34:00 UTC
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Throwing in my hat by
on 2016-03-03 17:48:00 UTC
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Been a while since I've battled competitively, But I'm into trying this out. Tentatively going with Ghost, but I may change my mind. I'll post my team when I've done a little more research.
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Team Electric Boogaloo. by
on 2016-03-03 20:56:00 UTC
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*tidies up Electross the mini-Missingno* by
on 2016-03-04 17:11:00 UTC
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Eelektross is my all-time favourite Pokémon. I'm keeping Daddy E's mini. =]
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Slight Clarification by
on 2016-03-03 22:05:00 UTC
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I meant Wash Rotom and Therian Thundurus. I wanted them to be a surprise but considering how different some formes can be I figured it was best to specify.
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And life with the XKCD filter remains surreal. by
on 2016-03-03 21:00:00 UTC
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There's a Chrome extension which makes the substitutions suggested in a couple of XKCD comics. So we currently have a Boarder named Cat-on-the-Leopard, for instance - and you've just described your Atomic-type Pokemon team.
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Ehhh... provisional team, then. by
on 2016-03-03 16:28:00 UTC
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Shifting Ninetails to be my sub. by
on 2016-03-04 11:03:00 UTC
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And crying because designing Pokeymans is hard work. It's taken me half an hour to pin down one. One!
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*scoops up Ninetails the mini-Missingno* (nm) by
on 2016-03-04 12:11:00 UTC
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Maybe I named my Ninetales Ninetails. by
on 2016-03-04 12:35:00 UTC
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Didn't think of that, did you?
hS will now do that as retroactive justification -
I look forward to hearing about Ninetails and Delfox. =] (nm) by
on 2016-03-04 14:24:00 UTC
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Ninetails/Delfox OTP! by
on 2016-03-04 14:58:00 UTC
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Wait, sorry, wrong thread.
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Doktor Trollenfisch approves. =] (nm) by
on 2016-03-04 15:13:00 UTC
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Megarupt <3!!! by
on 2016-03-03 17:31:00 UTC
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Professor von BOOM! from last year's Sunflower Cup making a reappearance, hm? =]
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Megarupt by
on 2016-03-03 17:31:00 UTC
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Professor von BOOM! from last year's Sunflower Cup making a reappearance, hm? =]
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I dunno. by
on 2016-03-03 19:09:00 UTC
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'cause on the one hand, giant camel (which would make July delirously happy, I'm sure). But on the other hand, giant firedragon.
But on the other other hand, giant firedragon is bannedfor being too cool. So choices, choices.
Or I may change it all up later anyway.
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Oh, just you wait. by
on 2016-03-04 17:59:00 UTC
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I haven't forgotten about those camels.
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If I can help to swing it... by
on 2016-03-04 11:04:00 UTC
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You say cute... by
on 2016-03-04 11:17:00 UTC
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Indeed. by
on 2016-03-04 12:08:00 UTC
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Ninetales is fragile as a Drought setter. However, it does have one advantage over Megazard Y in that regard - it can hold a Heat Rock, extending Drought's effect to 8 turns. =]
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Question, then, as our resident expert: by
on 2016-03-04 12:26:00 UTC
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Is there anything else Ninetales can do? Cutting my team down to five in order to boost fire for eight turns seems like a bit of a gamble.
Though given that my list includes almost no-one with decent defences, maybe I oughtn't worry about that...
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To be honest? Not really. by
on 2016-03-04 12:51:00 UTC
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Its gimmick is that it can set up weather without wasting a moveslot on Sunny Day - thus freeing up a slot for, say, more coverage or Protect or something. It also means you can use Solar Beam from Turn 1, so that's a plus. =]
It's also worth mentioning that sunlight doesn't just boost Fire - it also nerfs Water moves and activates a few abilities like Solar Power and Dry Skin. Really, though, Sunlight works best on Grass teams, because there's so, so many ones that use Chlorophyll. =] -
Hrm. :-/ Testing is clearly required. by
on 2016-03-04 13:12:00 UTC
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Though first I'll need to come up with movesets for more than just one Pokemon... :(
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Smogon's a good place to start. by
on 2016-03-04 13:15:00 UTC
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I used their recommended movesets and tweaked mine from there.
You can search by the list or just Google "[Pokémon's name] smogon". -
But that sounds dull. :-/ by
on 2016-03-04 13:17:00 UTC
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Trawling through lists to find what kind of moves I want to stick on there is... something approximating fun, I guess? Just... long-winded fun.
I'unno. Maybe.
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If you want out, just let me know. :) (nm) by
on 2016-03-03 16:31:00 UTC
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*Blows dust off of Mono teams* Ah! Still works. by
on 2016-03-03 16:22:00 UTC
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Well I beat Ixi, so I must be doing something right (nm) by
on 2016-03-04 19:13:00 UTC
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I have replaced Diancie with Klefki (nm) by
on 2016-03-04 16:24:00 UTC
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Want to put Diancie in as a substitute? by
on 2016-03-04 16:54:00 UTC
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You've got one spot still open.
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*points down* Cough Cough (nm) by
on 2016-03-06 00:24:00 UTC
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Whimsicot (nm) by
on 2016-03-04 17:27:00 UTC
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Trainer eatpraylove joins the battle! by
on 2016-03-03 16:07:00 UTC
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Top Gun! by
on 2016-03-03 15:22:00 UTC
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Small change. by
on 2016-03-05 09:57:00 UTC
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Mandibuzz instead of Crobat. No substitute right now.
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#ThugCatcha by
on 2016-03-03 15:10:00 UTC
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no plz by
on 2016-03-05 19:19:00 UTC
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I'm definitely need to look out for you again this year. That's one terrifying looking team you've put together
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I share the sentiment. by
on 2016-03-05 20:45:00 UTC
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Ambipom I know intimately (doubtless to your surprise) and Diggersby is Azumarill with better STAB, but I'm really curious to see what your Slaking will do. I know of Durant sets with Truant that run Entrainment, but Slaking doesn't know that... still. Should be interesting. Encore user, maybe? idk.
Actually, while you're here... After the competition, if we don't end up fighting each other, would you be up for an exhibition match? =] -
This year's team! by
on 2016-03-03 14:12:00 UTC
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I'm using Dark-types. Pangoro, Bisharp, Mandibuzz, Honchkrow, Hoopa Unbound, Absol.
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Two things. by
on 2016-03-03 22:16:00 UTC
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One: This is Team Blood Moon... yeah, I named them after the Dark-type Spectacular Talent.
Two: Is is legal to ask for help building the team, or is that helping other players to cheat should they fight me? -
Asking for help is totally fine! by
on 2016-03-03 22:19:00 UTC
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Though if you end up fighting that person, they'll then know all your dirty tricks. ;P
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Considering I'm totally screwed if I go up against Scape... by
on 2016-03-04 23:37:00 UTC
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... I don't think that'll be a problem.
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You have options. by
on 2016-03-05 09:17:00 UTC
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Dark-types tend to have a lot of Fighting-type coverage, of which my team is not the world's biggest fan. You've also got Flying-types, which are going to be tricky for me to deal with.
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I meant that you're an infinitely better Trainer than I am. by
on 2016-03-05 15:23:00 UTC
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I'd forgotten you'd picked a team that's (on-paper) supereffective against mine.
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"We taught her everything she knows." by
on 2016-03-04 14:26:00 UTC
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"D'you think we should've taught her everything we know?"
"Nah, take too long."
-- Granny Weatherwax and Nanny Ogg. =] -
I'll volunteer to make the trophies again. by
on 2016-03-03 14:04:00 UTC
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It'll be pretty easy, since I've still got the files from last year... ^_^.
Have not decided whether I want to participate. Does the website (whatever the website was) have a play-against-computer option that could be used to test it out?
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Unfortunately... by
on 2016-03-03 14:08:00 UTC
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PokemonShowdown doesn't have an AI to fight against. However, testing your team against real people is better (assuming you don't encounter n00bs or ragequitters or whathaveyous), since you'd be fighting against real people in the tourney.
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It's not so much my team... by
on 2016-03-03 14:11:00 UTC
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Testing shows... by
on 2016-03-03 14:22:00 UTC
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That since Pokemon Showdown runs on cookies (basically), you can have two different users open in two different browsers just fine. You can definitely fight yourself, if so you wish.
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Awesome. Thank you. by
on 2016-03-03 14:39:00 UTC
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(Chrome hS versus Internet Explorer hS... it's robot versus tech-savvy Victorian!)
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Robot wins. by
on 2016-03-03 20:32:00 UTC
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Chrome hS had three (randomly-selected) Pokemon left after clobbering IE hS.
Seems easy enough to use, and not too long. I may actually do this.
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Addendum: by
on 2016-03-03 13:49:00 UTC
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If you wish to change your team roster before the cutoff, that is perfectly fine as well. Just post and I'll switch it right away.
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About the banlist. by
on 2016-03-03 13:49:00 UTC
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I'm not sure whether we should do that or not, but Smogon's Monotype banlist is slightly different, compared to its OU banlist.
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Hm, Monotype banlist is definitely different. by
on 2016-03-03 14:24:00 UTC
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I'd be in favor of changing to that, as well as keeping the banned moves list we already have in place. Ties aren't something we want, after all.
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Thirded. by
on 2016-03-03 14:50:00 UTC
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Also, is anyone setting up a document for the teams again? Need to enter #ThugCatcha.
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I'm doing it. by
on 2016-03-03 15:35:00 UTC
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As a matter of fact... here,
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My own team: by
on 2016-03-03 13:47:00 UTC
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