I can see that...

Subject: I can see that...
Author: Matt Cipher
Posted on: 2016-02-14 17:37:00 UTC

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And truth be told, I thought of it first, but then something was off. Yes, Salem has a very similar hairstyle to the Winter Maiden, but the only thing that's off are the eyebrows. The Maiden in the Remnant story has those short hikimayu-type brows, whilst Salem has regular ones... say what you will, I doubt corruption would change the shape of your eyebrows. Winter Maiden's eyes are also bit more cat-shaped and Salem's are more slanted, more similar to Winter Schnee's.

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(NSFW) RWBY Vol. 3, episode 12 by Matt Cipher on 2016-02-14 16:59:00 UTC Reply

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Ekhm... excuse me for a moment, I need too— Ah, right, the Spoiler Wall. Here it is. Oh, and also... umm... expect some heavy language.

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F*CK YOU, CINDER FALL! F*CK YOU, F*CK YOU, F*CK YOU, F*CK YOU! DASJFSADKLJCVASDBNVCSVLJNK... *heavy breathing, vision goes red, screams of people running away in terror*

Hmm, yes. I think that's an adequate reaction.

'Tis a terrible day for rain (nm) by Mattman The Comet on 2016-02-15 14:34:00 UTC Reply
Gods above. by Desdendelle on 2016-02-15 12:08:00 UTC Reply

The HSQ is straight up through the roof.
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Dayum, man.
Haven't seen it yet, but... by Iximaz on 2016-02-14 19:54:00 UTC Reply

If it's anything like the last episode, the Holy S*** Quotient will be through the roof.

Come faster Monday! I want to watch the next episode!

*grabs popcorn and waits for Ix's reaction (nm) by Mattman The Comet on 2016-02-15 03:53:00 UTC Reply

Oh boy, you want my reaction? (SPOILERS) (NSFW for swearing) by Iximaz on 2016-02-15 04:52:00 UTC Reply

Alright, let's take a looksee. I sense lots of capslock in the future.

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*makes popcorn and settles in*

OZPIN AND CINDER FIGHTING F*CK YES

PYRRA AND JAUNE

ASDFGHJKL; KISSING THEY'RE KISSING THEY'RE KISSING THEY'RE KIIISSSIIIIIING *flings popcorn into the air in fangirlish excitement*

wait

wait no

pyrrha no

PYRRHA WHAT ARE YOU DOING

PYRRHA NO

F*CKING F*CK

WHAT THE SH*T ARE YOU DOING YOU'RE GONNA DIE

F*CKING DRAGON

WHY DOES THIS THING EXIST

F*CKING CINDER

OH F*CK

PYRRHA I DIDN'T MEAN IT

COME BACK

also i feel bad for laughing that the character based on achilles got shot in the ankle

BUT WHY

F*CK YOU CINDER, F*CK YOU F*CK YOU F*CK YOU

*hurls popcorn at the screen*

F*UUUUUUUUUUUCK

RUBY WHAT ARE YOU DOING

YOU'RE NOT THE DOCTOR STOP REGENERATING

*incoherent flailing* WHAT IS HAPPENIIIIING

wait is that

IT'S THEIR DAD

Silver eyes? The Chekov's Gun has finally fired!

"You're special, Ruby." Pfffffffffff

"You're special the same way your mom was." BACKSTORY TIME GIMME

"It was said that those born with silver eyes were destined to lead the life of a warrior." Down, CAD, she ain't a Sue yet.

"It was said that even a single look from one of these fighters could strike a Grimm down." No, bad CAD, go sit in the corner.

Ozpin is missing oh god everything's gonna go even more to sh*t now D:

Yaaaaang D: I wanna hug her D: You just had to burn off the arm of the girl who fights by punching didn't you DDDDD: but they have cool prosthetics in Remnant, they can get her set up with something surely...?*shovels more popcorn into mouth*

AND NOW TEAM RWBY IS BROKEN UP AND EVERYTHING HAS OFFICIALLY GONE TO SH*T

...is this a timeskip? I think it's a timeskip, there's now snow and stuff

JAUNE

AND REN AND NORA

THINGS ARE GETTING A LITTLE BETTER

*spits out popcorn*

I SPOKE TOO SOON RUBY RAN AWAY AND EVERYTHING IS AWFUL

BEACON IS IN RUINS AND INFESTED BY GRIMM

wait who the sh*t is this

WHO THE SH*T IS THIS

IS THAT CINDER

VOLDECINDER???

Or someone else?

WHOEVER THEY ARE THEY'RE CREEPY AS F*CK

Ooh, the Stinger

Qrow has Ozpin's cane oh no this can't be good

QROW IS A CROW IS THAT HIS SEMBLANCE I DON'T CARE THAT IS AWESOME

WHAT IS GOING ON I CAN'T EVEN

*flips her desk and leaves*

THIS MAKES PUELLA MAGI MADOKA MAGICA LOOK LIKE A F*CKING SHOW FOR KIDS

Hmm... by Matt Cipher on 2016-02-15 08:55:00 UTC Reply

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I seriously hope Drunkle Qrow's Semblance is not animal transformation. Mostly because it would be too unique, and not fitting with other we've seen. Most Semblances focus on helping in battle - Pyrrha's control over the battlefield, Ruby's speed, Yang's durability, or even Flynt's Killer Quartet (reinforcements. Also, I love this name - "Killer Quartet"! :D). Turning into a bird would be... well... too environmental, not really useful in battle, but more outside of it.
Is your soul back? by Hardric on 2016-02-15 08:27:00 UTC Reply

Watching this episode destroy it for 99.9% of the viewers. The other are Cinder and them fans.

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Way too soon for that, but someone will create this meme anyway: "Pyrra used to be a Huntress before, until she took an arrow in the ankle."

To be perfectly honest, her death wasn't also devastating as the other events from precedents episodes because I think we could see it coming from the moment she began kissing Jaune. Still a bad moment though.

When/If an OFU from RWBY will open, Cinder, Mercury and Adam will need protection from all the students.

Puella Magi was more frank about its darkness. Only two 'bait' episodes. Here, it was two and half volumes. Nobody was ready.

It beats the Red Wedding, October 4, any events from the apocalyptics MegaTen worlds, and duck are they dark. But this isn't over. Even these worlds held some hopes. Salem won't have an easy victory.

Now I have questions/bets for you:

- Do you think will see more of Pyrrha? Many people just hope the way she died hides something. Duck, I wish it for it, please Monty. :,(

- Do you think the talk about silver eyes Crow had with Ruby could hide 'Summer Maiden'?

- Do you think Salem (Voldecinder) could be the Winter from World of Remnant?

Hm. by Iximaz on 2016-02-15 14:38:00 UTC Reply

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- We might see one last appearance from Pyrrha, but I think she's gone for good. RWBY doesn't seem like the type of show to pull its punches.

- No. Ruby's power is something else entirely, and it's bugging me that so many people are screaming "SHE'S TOTES THE SUMMER MAIDEN" when Qrow made it pretty clear that the silver-eyed people, while rare, have a different set of completely unrelated powers.

- Also no. I think Salem is something else entirely, but I don't know what yet. I'm not going to really theorize on what she could be until next season because there are just too many unknowns to make an educated guess.

Eh by Mattman The Comet on 2016-02-15 15:04:00 UTC Reply

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I personally would like to disagree with on the Pyrrha thing, due to the whole Cinder turning her to ashes thing, and place my bets on a Winter Soldier scenario.

~~The angst is needed to give Arkos their Happily Ever After.~~

Gonna agree with Ix, here... by desdendelle on 2016-02-15 16:57:00 UTC Reply

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Specifically, about Pyrrha. Bringing dead characters back is, generally speaking, shoddy writing, unless it's a D&Desque setting where Resurrection spells are common-ish.

*Points to Optimus Prime* (nm) by Mattman The Comet on 2016-02-15 17:39:00 UTC Reply

You'll have to be more specific. by Desdendelle on 2016-02-15 18:29:00 UTC Reply

Especially considering that there at least six Optimus Primes.

Pretty much all of them by Mattman The Comet on 2016-02-15 18:49:00 UTC Reply

TFWiki has a page dedicated to the subject

Well... by Desdendelle on 2016-02-15 19:06:00 UTC Reply

That looks like shoddy writing, for the most part. Or Executive Meddling, which is far worse.

Executive meddling by Mattman The Comet on 2016-02-15 19:45:00 UTC Reply

They have to sell toys to make money

Yeah. by Desdendelle on 2016-02-15 21:26:00 UTC Reply

TFWiki has an article. It still doesn't excuse the bad writing.

Hahahaha by Mattman The Comet on 2016-02-14 20:15:00 UTC Reply

The Holy F*** quotient would be a more appropriate one

Not enough... by Matt Cipher on 2016-02-14 22:16:00 UTC Reply

I'd say I'm more impartial to HOLY F***ING S**T! SWEET BUTTERY VANILLA JESUS ON A BICYCLE ON HIS WAY TO A SUNDAY MASS!

(NSFW) MONTY WHY by Mattman The Comet on 2016-02-14 18:19:00 UTC Reply

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All right, who's idea was it to throw around the "Half your OTP dying" in the RWBY fandom?

All I'm hoping now is that Pyrrha gets a super happy bullshit Optimus Prime revival.

Whatcha blaming Monty Oum for? He dead. (nm) by Scapegrace on 2016-02-15 04:21:00 UTC Reply

He left enough notes to last several more seasons. (nm) by Iximaz on 2016-02-15 04:25:00 UTC Reply

In hindsight I have a lot of hype for V4 now by Mattman The Comet on 2016-02-14 18:27:00 UTC Reply

I'm just hoping that it happens as an early birthday present, which if you dig way back I confirmed it as one of Gabriel's diary dates.

Mattman's Translator: He hopes for an RTX 2016 release
You're not the only one. by Hardric on 2016-02-14 18:21:00 UTC Reply

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Half the fandom hopes for such outcome. Heck, some people are still waiting for Roman, even after the staff confirmed he's dead. Wait, see and most above all, hope.

Hold on... by Matt Cipher on 2016-02-14 18:24:00 UTC Reply

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They confirmed Roman's done for?! Oh, f*ck no! I was hoping that this griffin Grimm was something that Neo whipped out to cover for her and Torchwick's escape! Come on!

Sorry. by Hardric on 2016-02-14 18:26:00 UTC Reply

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They said it during their marathon stream before the episode. It already made it way to TV Tropes too.

Beat me to the finish. by Hardric on 2016-02-14 17:11:00 UTC Reply

I intended to post about it once peole had time to watch and piece their souls together. Reaction time then. (Not for someone who didn't watch RWBY Volume 3, last warning.)

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Pyrrha wass pretty much dead the moment she kissed Jaune, though I hope the... way she disappeared lets me hope (as half the fans) that there will be something more to it.

As expected, this finale continued to punch us in the feels, but also gave us a blessed moment with Cinder's breakdown. Very costly, but so wonderful. Give me something to wait for Mercury and Adam's death. Karma will catch you up too, ducktards.

Yang, seeing you like this hurt me. Stop playing emo, find you a cyber prothesis, and go help your friends. Do you really want to let your sister going away like this?

This episode was the bittersweet duckfest I imagined, and a conclusion to a wonderful, but so dark volume. I want the next volume and the soundtrack

Final point. You want to crush hope, Salem, or should I say, Fallen Winter? Bring. It. On. Game Never Over.

Another thing... by Matt Cipher on 2016-02-14 17:21:00 UTC Reply

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Ruby's sudden power-up, I'd say we have the Summer Maiden theory solidified. Except Qrow, who mentioned her speshul eyes... I'm sorry, but silver eyes are always speshul.

So, the Wizard of Oz(pin) is missing, the Scare(Q)row takes over, the Wicked Witch of ~~Salem~~ the West is ready to attack, and we have Zwei as resident Toto... the parallels just keep on coming.

Ya know what... Salem really does look like a corrupted version of Winter Schnee...

Hmm... by Hardric on 2016-02-14 17:27:00 UTC Reply

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Crow can say anythng he wants about silver eyes, Ruby is a Maiden, I'm sure of it. But we'll have to wait for Volume 4 for an answer.

When I said Fallen Winter, I was talking about the Winter in World of Remnant. Same basic hairstyle, same shape of the face, ... And it would go nicely with 'Ozpin is the wizard theory'. And explain why no Maiden was around during thiese events. (Winter hostile, Fall incapacited, Summer as Ruby... Spring would be overworked.)

I can see that... by Matt Cipher on 2016-02-14 17:37:00 UTC Reply

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And truth be told, I thought of it first, but then something was off. Yes, Salem has a very similar hairstyle to the Winter Maiden, but the only thing that's off are the eyebrows. The Maiden in the Remnant story has those short hikimayu-type brows, whilst Salem has regular ones... say what you will, I doubt corruption would change the shape of your eyebrows. Winter Maiden's eyes are also bit more cat-shaped and Salem's are more slanted, more similar to Winter Schnee's.

In the end, only time will tell. (nm) by Hardric on 2016-02-14 17:52:00 UTC Reply