Sorry for not being orderly about it.

I'm going to argue that CCD had indeed been quite the thing years and years ago, before it was deleted- there's a reason it was notorious. Same with DCC.

The same with the Marrissa Picard fics- those I had encountered MSTs of years and years before I found the PPC; they were well enough in plenty of other sporking rings that for a few of them your own rendition was practically a rite of passage, I can only remember one person who was actually lunatic enough to MST all of them.

As for the LKOP, I still have to this day no idea where it surfaced from, beyond the suspicion that it might have been a Laburnum addition.

Beyond that, I have to state for the record that the internet changes, and so do fandoms. Things that had been notorious throughout fandom corners in the late 90s and early 00s are hard to find these days; some of these things have just disappeared forever because of the hosting sites fading away, and so on.

Additionally, Google itself isn't the same, either: it shows results that are far more tailored to the person searching now, and it can do some truly impressive stuff thanks to indexing.

Basically, trying to go by current searches won't be accurate for a variety of reasons, especially because fandoms move on and grow or change (HP for example was so big it had multiple rings of fandom corners, all with their own assortment of Big Name Fans) or just die out.

I'm not saying we should dismiss the introduction of new stuff- even though I'm not in some of the fandoms for fics proposed (what's this Blood Raining Night thing?)- but it definitely shouldn't mean the outright dismissal of older stuff either just because it doesn't meet current 'percieved' standards.

-July, wanting to weigh in while having the chance

...would Latias' Journey qualify? It's got its own TV Tropes page, the first three pages of a Google search of it turn up mentions of the fic, and it was completed in 2009. I wouldn't be surprised if we considered it a Legendary by this point.

Would "Rainbow Factory" fit these criteria?

It's been mentioned a few times that on the Internet, things tend to drop out of the public mindset. If we were being strictly logical about this, we'd work out some kind of formula - like, 'for each three years over the five year limit, remove one required hit from Google, down to a minimum of one' (meaning that a 'new' LB over 17 years old would only need to get one hit in the top two pages - which would be pretty impressive, actually!).

I don't know how old Clbrn is. I know it existed in 2002, because it was already Legendary before the PPC existed. Under the above formula, that would mean it only needs two hits in the top 20 to qualify, making it come in at 150% of the requirement. (No, I didn't craft the requirement to fit!)

Things will always get talked about less, especially when - as with Clbrn - they've always been quite tricky to find the text of. I think allowing a little leeway for older stories is perfectly fine.

(Also, you're wrong about Marrissa Picard - Google automatically 'corrects' your spelling. If you tell it to actually search for what you typed, she seems to be the only hit.)

hS

...at two hundred pounds, is this baby elephant!



I'm in favor of removing Lion King Orgy Poem and Cho Chang's Desires. Everything else is already pretty famous within the PPC community and/or the rest of the internet. Heck, Agony in Pink had a news article where it was mentioned!

Draco's Christmas Cuppa could probably stand to be removed, even though it was already missioned.

Subjugation I vote stays in, and I'd like to add Blood Raining Night if the votes make the cutoff three years. When Google's search bar tries to automatically fill it in for you with just "blood r", you know it's pretty famous.

Lion King Orgy Poem - I'd be okay removing it. I don't think anyone ever did anything with it.

Marrissa Picard - There are some hits even in "Past year" if you search her full name, Marrissa Amber Flores Picard. Only four in the top 20, but three of them are the top three, which ought to count for something, IMO.

That Series - Wow. I didn't believe you that there were no hits on this one, but there really aren't, even searching the series' actual title. Weird. O.o Still, to me, mass sporking says it gets grandfathered in.

I second Des' comments, and we seem to be in agreement on the rest.

And no, you're not overstepping your authority. There isn't much authority around here in the first place, and those of us who often take the initiative on this sort of thing tend to be relieved when other people step up sometimes. {= )

~Neshomeh

Rose Potter ought to be grandfathered in (missioned). Ditto for That Series.

For the record, I'm not terribly fussed if the result ends up being three years. If that happens, I get to claim "Blood Raining Night" right away instead of waiting another year and a half. I went with five mainly because I think harder-won rewards are sweeter. {= )

~Neshomeh

That "very hard to make" is the point here. It's Legendary stuff we're talking about, not your run-of-the-mill aughfic.