Subject: Hat...seems to be on. Let's do this!
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Posted on: 2018-06-25 12:00:00 UTC

Alright. Settle in--being me, I write a lot to begin with, and I've also responded to HG's comments, so...that might have lengthened it. As usual, I've used formatting to try to make it easy to follow. If anything came out unclear, just ask.


Your characters:

Col. Bradbury: Nice to see an older human! For obvious reasons, a lot of agents tend to be young or young-looking when they start out, so, well, nice to see. I also just plain like the description of the colonel. Provided you avoid the potential pitfall of his ability to "procure just about anything just about anywhere" serving as deus ex machina, I can see him being pretty fun to read about. Actually, he's starting to feel a tiny bit Discworld-ish to me? In a great way. Unless someone can point out any problems (other than what HG said, which I'll address in a moment), I think he'll do just fine.

Regarding HG's comments: Yeah, I think his world would generally be labeled as just 'unpublished' or 'alternate World One' or something? I'm not completely sure. I know I have an agent planned from an alternate World One, also set in the future, which started from 'what if Yiddish was still a widely spoken language?' and developed from there. I never called it anything other than 'an alternate World One', though, to my memory.

My main question here is: what exactly makes Bradbury's home universe an alternate one? The only thing I'm seeing is that he's from the 2050s and they have medical and cybernetic science. If your main reasoning here is just that you want to be able to play with your own idea of a possible projection of the future (perfectly fine, sounds interesting)--it could really probably just be labeled 'alternate World One timeline' or something along those lines? I'd be happy for more details regarding Bradbury's home, though, to understand what makes it an AU. Apart from that, I bow to HG's knowledge here.

Gibbs: I...kind of like Gibbs as well. I think there's also a meme of something that looks a bit like him, so I have that automatic mental image, and it amuses me a bit. I'm personally unfamiliar with the conspiracy theories you seem to be referencing in his profile, but...sure, yeah. I'm amused. It should also be interesting to see how a human colonel and a draconian security guard from different universes interact. From the profile, Gibbs just...well, he also comes across as a bit of a character! The young, kind of a maverick sort. That could also make him a good foil for Bradbury. All in all, sounds good.

Regarding HG's comments: Yeah, typos need to be fixed. Also, if you haven't already, I suggest laying out at least the main conspiracy theories that are true or not true there. For one thing, Gibbs will probably have to explain it at some point (or be smacked in the face with 'what? Nah, that's just a conspiracy theory!'); for another, it'll help both you and us to get a sense of what's going on.

(Also, if Dulce base is still in there--I'm unclear on whether there's a problem with that or if it's just the misspelling on the Mesa--it should be 'Dulce Base', as it is in your response. Quick Google search confirms that capitalization. So that's another thing to fix.)

Characters overall: some details need fixing or tweaking, but...overall, both agents look good! Be a little careful of how you use Bradbury's talents.

Whew. On to the first prompt!

Alright. First things first: I really advise spacing for readability. I can get through this prompt and the other because they're short, but my days of making my way through longer stories like this if the writing's okayish and I like the plot are pretty much behind me. I'd advise hitting 'enter' an extra time at every new paragraph, or else take advantage of wider spacing and the tab key to indent the new paragraphs. (I don't know how you're planning on posting stories platform-wise, but one or the other of these methods should work on pretty much anything.)

With that out of the way: Um, I'm afraid you have another place name mistake. Matama, New Zealand is neither a real place (from what I can find) nor where FotR was filmed; Matamata, New Zealand, on the other hand, was indeed the town nearest the location of the Hobbiton set. That needs fixing. Between this and the Mesa (and the base capitalization)...you might want to start using Google to check your facts a little more, assuming that's an option for you. Or asking a beta to do it if it isn't. It's a good tool, and very easy to use for things like this.

Also, while Bradbury was a child at the right time to grow up with Lord of the Rings, he seems to have gained the trivia of the exact location of the set without the trivia that it was exterior only? Then again, I suppose he could reasonably assume that someone decided to build interiors in the past fifty-ish years...though I do have to wonder why he's thinking of the Hobbits as "well-dressed" when, unless fashions have seriously changed in his time, he should probably be thinking they're dressed in a really old style? That is, really old? It just...doesn't quite connect the more I think about it. I expect it's meant to be in contrast to what he expects to be normal pygmy dress, but...it still seems odd that his version of 'well-dressed' is Hobbiton and not something a bit more...modern.

As to the Hydramatic drive...okay. That does seem to be the capitalization. Fun fact--Hydra-Matic/Hydramatic Drive is also the name for what was apparently the first really successful automatic car transmission! The things you learn. The Pinkwater version does indeed look like something the PPC might want, though.

One more small thing before I actually get into the writing: I assume Nirvana's dressed like a Hobbit, since Bradbury addresses him as a local? (His Ye Olde Englishe is incorrect to my knowledge, by the way, though that may be on purpose? I love the wordplay in his second line, though--"faculties" and "faculty". Very fun.) And another thing, actually: Nirvana can speak parentheses? And Bradbury can hear them?

I'd add a bit of description somewhere at the end, probably, so that it doesn't go completely into dialogue for the last few exchanges of Bradbury's section and we continue to get a sense of movement. It would also give us a little more sense of, well, everything, including what Nirvana's thinking (I don't necessarily mean you should write out his thoughts, but even a moment of speculative looking or hesitation or something would make it flow a bit more). Things like that. Apart from this, it seems mostly fine and readable, and I like some of the dialogue. My only other problem is...actually, this is something HG pointed out as well. Is Bradbury from a Daniel Pinkwater bookverse? If he is, then that is his home continuum. If it's not, then well...okay, honestly, either way I'm a bit confused about what Bradbury's job is when we meet him. The terms are confusing (and don't seem to fit with him being a soldier); he's pretty formal in speech, which is...interesting, if also a bit confusing? Especially since it doesn't match his speech patterns in the second prompt at all? I just...I'm confused. This closer read-through is confusing me. Which is a real shame, because I still do like the character ideas and some of the writing (especially the opening of the second prompt).

Okay. Gibbs' part...well. I've read the explanation of the change in style; fine. It's a nice idea, but it is rather jarring here. This is also all one paragraph (except for Gibbs' two-word reaction at the end), which is...neither good nor necessary. It does feel a little like how Gibbs might write up a report, honestly, which I kind of like, but...that doesn't really make it work here, especially since it comes right after a different style. If this was its own piece and spaced out it would work better, though it's still...well, I wouldn't advise you to write a mission like this, though I would definitely read a mission where small chunks of it were actually excerpts from Gibbs' written mission report--that sounds like it could be done amusingly.

(Also: you want "Gibbs went to compliment the kid" rather than "complement.")

(Also also: I do like Gibbs as we see him here! He seems to mesh with his profile, which is nice, and he just plain seems like he'd be fun to read about.)

First prompt overall: This is...a bit messier than I remember thinking on the first, sleepy read-through. On the plus side, the SPaG looks fine and I'm not noticing any actually incorrect sentences. It could really use reworking, though. I'd like to see this succeed, but...I'm afraid the current version isn't there yet.

The second prompt:

Okay. As mentioned before, both in this post and in my first response, I really love this opening. So much. The entire first paragraph is just...I love it. Response Center 9-unreadable-smudge is fantastic, the military metaphor is both appropriate and executed nicely...There should probably be a new paragraph started at "On the edge of this cave of non-wonders," and again right before Bradbury speaks, but...listen, I love it. I really do. It's nicely done, it stands out, and it still makes me either smile or just sit up and go 'I like this!' on the third or fourth reading. I really like it.

The rest is, uh...okay, let's break it down.

-As mentioned in my response to the first prompt, Bradbury's speech patterns don't match at all between the two prompts. In the first, he says things like "I accept this," and, well, “I assure you, [...] I am in full possession of all my faculties, except the faculty of the department of engineering, who could probably help me. But I digress. Perhaps you, in the absence of the faculty, could furnish aid?” In the second, well, his first longer line is this: “Are we just gonna keep talking in circles like a couple of parrots, or are we gonna do something?” He does keep some of his nicer words, but...there's definitely a disconnect, and there just isn't enough writing (or anything in his profile) to know if he switches formality levels depending on the situation or if this is, in fact, a continuity error.

-After that beautiful opening, the entire prompt essentially becomes dialogue. There are six words mentioning who's talking (three for each), and one seven-word sentence for Gibbs leaving and the passage of time. That's it. Now, dialogue-only stories are a thing, but...the combination here is just...it's odd.

-Speaking of the dialogue, it would be really well supported by more description. I don't even mean description as nice as the opening bit: I just mean description of any sort. A bit of a sense of movement, maybe some other stuff that's in the RC, the expressions on their faces, their body language, thoughts, smiles, frowns, getting up--I'll take anything. It could be easily combined with giving a little more indication of who's talking, too--it gets hard to follow, especially since a, don't know them too well yet, and b, while they do sound different from each other, it isn't such a stark difference that it's immediately obvious (as in, say, a Victorian and a modern slang-using teenager in a conversation).

-Because it's almost completely dialogue, some of the jokes fall flat. Actually, I think most of them do. There's no timing, because we have no real clue what they're doing; their expressions can't add anything because they aren't described...

-We get some sense of how they interact just from the dialogue, it's true, but...so, so, so much more could be shown with a little description. I don't know if they trust each other or just tolerate each other; I don't know if they're wary, or curious, or...I just don't have enough, and I'd really like more. I like these characters! I want to really see them interact!

-I like the final joke, with the bottle of whiskey. Unfortunately, again, it falls flat. If we had a pause right before the line, a description, anything--look, here, I'll show you what I mean:

“I’m back!”

Bradbury looked up. He'd moved a good deal of the debris around, but had, to all appearances, failed to actually find the console. “Any luck?”

Gibbs nodded. “Yeah, they had a very good deal on baking stuff." He set something down on the wobbly table with a
thunk, and smirked. "Also, I got a bottle of whiskey, ‘cause this seems like it’s gonna take a while.”

It's obviously my writing style, and my interpretation of both how I'd frame that joke and how I'm very quickly interpreting possible ways for your characters to interact...but do you see a difference? The reader (hopefully) gets a better sense of what's going on, of what Gibbs is like, of time passing, and a bit of both the RC interior and how the two agents might interact. It's a lot more information, added with four descriptive or mildly descriptive sentences.

Second prompt overall: SPaG and sentences are perfectly fine yet again. The opening is beautiful. Would heavily advise adding a lot more description to the dialogue to fill out the scene, make the jokes shine, and give a much better sense of the RC, the characters, and the new partnership. Also: Bradbury unfortunately seems a bit less strongly developed than Gibbs in writing, possibly because of the inconsistent speech patterns--it feels like you have less of a grasp on how to write him right now. It would be good to either work with him a little more or just resolve the continuity issues, depending on whether this impression is correct or it's accidental.

The badfic: It's...wellll. Definitely pretty OOC (in a way that reminds me vaguely of Partially Kissed Hero at the bits with Sirius, though far milder and, well, a lot of things remind me of PKH these days). Skimming along, Harry is apparently...well, he just called Arwen his aunt, and Aragorn thought he was James for a minute? And earlier he said he talked to Hades? Yeah, uh, I think you could get a good mission out of this. There's definitely plenty to comment on.

Alright. With all that said...I'm afraid that, for now, it's Permission Denied. Fix the small errors in both the writing pieces and the profiles; spend a little time with Bradbury (or with making him come across consistently, depending); rework both your pieces (and run them by betas--it's good to see you had a beta this first time, by the way, forgot to mention); and submit them again. You truly have some great ideas here, and are obviously capable of writing that shines**; if you can expand and polish what's here, I think it has the potential to be amazing.

~Z

**See the second prompt's opening and, to a slightly lesser extent, Bradbury's first non-Ye Olde Englishe line.

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